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House M.D. 03-25-2011 05:26 PM

Kiaoni you don't get it.
You may be "eligible" for epilepsy and not knowing it and that's the main problem.

Flying Pencil 03-25-2011 05:27 PM

Please, please, please make this switchable, luthier!

I am a pilot, fly single engine aircraft into the sun, and have no issue with PSE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photosensitive_epilepsy).

I think it is great you are considerate to those who do have an issue, but the real pilots of WW2 did not have this filter (just sunglasses), and I would rather have no filtering.

Regards!

S!

MD_Titus 03-25-2011 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Triggaaar (Post 239799)
Oh :(

having waivers for this sort of thing wouldn't wash. EULA are regularly ticked and ignored, and it would have to be something you tick whenever playing it as it wouldn't differentiate between users on a single machine. i can see the legal sense behind this, imagine if they asked pipe fitters and builders to sign waivers regarding asbestos - everyone would sign because they want to work. same with this, everyone will tick it as they want to play. all it takes is one unscrupulous bugger to sue.

there's a line in microwave instruction manuals about not drying pets in them. guess how it got there.
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Originally Posted by 6S.Manu (Post 239808)
Come on guys, I'll support you!

this.

everyone getting all pissy and cancelling their orders - if the same had been done to rise of flight it would've died on it's arse. as it is, investment = continued development. turn down the settings, get used to the mechanics of the new sim and watch as the patches come rolling in to improve visual performance. maddox games have good form in this respect. feel a bit sorry for the russian buyers being used as beta testers, but good lord can you imagine the whinefest if the release date had been set back another 2 months...
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Originally Posted by Voyager (Post 239823)
Well, from what Luthier is saying, Cliffs of Dover is less "Flash Photography" and more, "Japanese Seizure Bots".

lol

Kianoni 03-25-2011 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by House M.D. (Post 239838)
Kiaoni you don't get it.
You may be "eligible" for epilepsy and not knowing it and that's the main problem.

I survived 33 and half years already spending many nights in rave parties so I guess I'm fine.

C_G 03-25-2011 05:30 PM

House,

That's an interesting point, but I don't think it's a legally accurate one.
Food manufacturers aren't precluded from making products with peanut or peanut oil on the chance that a consumer might not be aware that they have a fatal allergy to peanuts.

They're only required to perform due diligence in warning consumers that their products do or may contain peanuts.

C_G

Winger 03-25-2011 05:30 PM

Slowly i am starting to think the epilepsy filter thingie might just be an argument to hide poor game optimisation behind. I hope the 31th will proove me wrong. I just cant think of an other reason to make this "feature" optional. I mean this "problem" already damaged the reputation of the game pretty much. But maybe the damage is less with the "epilepsy scapegoat" than it would have been without?

Winger

JG27CaptStubing 03-25-2011 05:31 PM

Other UBI games have it optional...

Kianoni 03-25-2011 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C_G (Post 239846)
House,

That's an interesting point, but I don't think it's a legally accurate one.
Food manufacturers aren't precluded from making products with peanut or peanut oil on the chance that a consumer might not be aware that they have a fatal allergy to peanuts.

They're only required to perform due diligence in warning consumers that their products do or may contain peanuts.

C_G

That's what I was referring to as stated in other threads.

kalimba 03-25-2011 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by adonys (Post 239825)
This sounds like a poor damage control post.

IT states nothing we didn't knew already: of course that the code is Maddox, but is UBI that IMPOSED that code to be added to the game.

Nope...Read carefully...1C decided to implement the "filter" themselves cause they were not able to adjust and modify their code in time for release...
As for the obligation of reducing the risk of seizures to a minimum, 1C must have been knowlegable of that for a while...ANd agreed to this obligation...
They were caught by surprise when the tests results came in,,,
And luthier has good words for UBI in this matter...
So UBI bashing is not justified here...

Salute !

House M.D. 03-25-2011 05:33 PM

Actually CG you find about these kind of allergies from your very early years.

Epilepsy can happen later - even after a hit in your head when falling down from the stairs or your bike.
You just don't know when it'll come.

Anyway, I'm with you guys that since we "know" that we don't have a problem why not enjoy the game, but publishers seem to think of the possible dangers and there are ones, that's the problem.


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