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JG52Krupi 06-29-2012 07:19 AM

Anyone else get the feeling that the whole forum is holding there breath waiting for the patch?

Also here is a fw190 from 1946 so we can compare...

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n...6-18-29-78.jpg

banned 06-29-2012 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by JG52Krupi (Post 438974)
Anyone else get the feeling that the whole forum is holding there breath waiting for the patch?

Sorry mate, what was that? I was holding my breath and passed out.

Helrza 06-29-2012 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by JG52Krupi (Post 438974)
Anyone else get the feeling that the whole forum is holding there breath waiting for the patch?

I have my doubts we will see a patch... but for sure we gonna see some cool screens :D cant wait to see wat they got up their sleeve's :)

p.s. i am holding my breath for a patch :P but its all good if it dont come :)

klem 06-29-2012 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by BGs_Ricky (Post 438971)
FW-190 !!!! :mrgreen::mrgreen:


Just wishing it out loud ;)

In the patch? Probably got a D9 FM to take on the Hurricane MkI.

What? Sour? Me?

Toni74 06-29-2012 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackSix (Post 438970)
P.S. I have got some screenshots from Ilya now...
It will be a bomb. Nuclear bomb.
This will probably raise the spirits of our German friends after yesterday's loss.
If we'll publish it today...

Tedesci will never come back :D forza Italia!

carguy_ 06-29-2012 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by JG52Krupi (Post 438974)
Also here is a fw190 from 1946 so we can compare...

Praying for the absence of the bomb rack then:mad: but...I WANT MY GUSTAV!!!

JG52Krupi 06-29-2012 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by klem (Post 438990)
In the patch? Probably got a D9 FM to take on the Hurricane MkI.

What? Sour? Me?

LOL, I do feel for you reds.. I haven't played for a few weeks and hadn't realised how bad things had got, I take it that's why I have not seen 56 since I started flying again?

Skoshi Tiger 06-29-2012 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackSix (Post 438970)
P.S. I have got some screenshots from Ilya now...
It will be a bomb. Nuclear bomb.

Hopefully it's a Nuclear Bomb in a good way.

Not a sort of "this is what we have been working on but due to all the negative sentiment we've decided to work somewhere that our efforts are appreciated!" type of Nuclear Bomb!
;)

Edit: I do hope they haven't Luthier near a scanner! ;)

JG52Krupi 06-29-2012 08:25 AM

A flyable welly or beaufighter would bring a smile to my face!

Allons! 06-29-2012 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by JG52Krupi (Post 439002)
A flyable welly or beaufighter would bring a smile to my face!

Yep, Bo´s would be great for lunch :)

BGs_Ricky 06-29-2012 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by klem (Post 438990)
In the patch? Probably got a D9 FM to take on the Hurricane MkI.

What? Sour? Me?

I was thinking about screens of a FW-190 for BOM...

In the context of ClOD I don't know what they could bring that would please the germans so much...

pstyle 06-29-2012 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BGs_Ricky (Post 439008)
I was thinking about screens of a FW-190 for BOM...

In the context of ClOD I don't know what they could bring that would please the germans so much...


I was thinking a couple of ME 262s in Clod too.. while they're at it.

Oh, and re-equip the RAF with Bristol Bulldogs.

Flanker35M 06-29-2012 09:14 AM

S!

Do not underestimate Bristol Bulldogs, Finns even got aerial kills in them dduring Winter War. 2 kills if I recall right :)

Osprey 06-29-2012 09:25 AM

Another treat coming for the Luftwaffe, what a surprise......

pstyle 06-29-2012 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Osprey (Post 439019)
Another treat coming for the Luftwaffe, what a surprise......

Can't wait to see how the Eastern Font air frames compare to historical in the "sequel".... wonder if the Hurris will suddenly become more powerful to please the Russian market.... ;)

JG52Krupi 06-29-2012 09:51 AM

Oh yeah such a treat getting an aircraft that should be confirmed already, I'd they get an la5 the blues best get the 190 :evil:

Allons! 06-29-2012 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Allons! (Post 438135)
Yep, finally the Mussolini guys proved to be something good for at war. :grin: Italians beat british troops in ukrainian territory. Quite a scenario hihi

Germany proudly presents the final game in the EUR- championship letting the both former junior-allied nations play against each other. We wish the other nations a pleasant evening and may the best one win. :grin: :grin:

ATAG_Dutch 06-29-2012 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by pstyle (Post 439013)
I was thinking a couple of ME 262s in Clod too.. while they're at it.

Oh, and re-equip the RAF with Bristol Bulldogs.

Yeah, but they'd give the Bulldog a Sopwith Camel FM.

5./JG27.Farber 06-29-2012 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Osprey (Post 439019)
Another treat coming for the Luftwaffe, what a surprise......

What after the Rata, the la5 and was there a mig3 aswell? Obviously there will be a yak1... So yes Osprey. FW190 for the blues. You reds get 3, we get one! ;)

ATAG_Dutch 06-29-2012 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber (Post 439055)
What after the Rata, the la5 and was there a mig3 aswell? Obviously there will be a yak1... So yes Osprey. FW190 for the blues. You reds get 3, we get one! ;)

It was a LaGG 3, but you blue guys already have loads of flyables, so maybe they're addressing the imbalance! :-P

P.S. I'm betting it's a 109F. :(

JG52Krupi 06-29-2012 11:46 AM

What one fighter compared to the hurri, spit, i 16, lagg3, mig 3 and la5....

bowlesy 06-29-2012 11:47 AM

"It will be a nuclear bomb" suggests it will be a B29 surely. I don't know how they will fit that into context though.lol.:o

ATAG_Dutch 06-29-2012 11:48 AM

Yes but the new plane set will be added to the existing plane set so you've got to think of both! ;)

Plus, the screenshots don't tell us if they're flyable or not, they could all be AI, like the Defiant, Wellington, Sunderland, Beaufighter etc etc.

carguy_ 06-29-2012 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ATAG_Dutch (Post 439057)
P.S. I'm betting it's a 109F. :(

Maybe an F-4;):evil:

BGs_Ricky 06-29-2012 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ATAG_Dutch (Post 439057)
It was a LaGG 3, but you blue guys already have loads of flyables, so maybe they're addressing the imbalance! :-P

P.S. I'm betting it's a 109F. :(

109F makes more sense for the advance on Moscow in '41, but seeing that we were shown a La-5, which entered service in late 1942, the FW-190 would fit in that time frame.

ATAG_Dutch 06-29-2012 11:55 AM

Yep, but like I edited my last post, screenshots don't tell us whether any of 'em are flyable. :(

Feathered_IV 06-29-2012 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by blacksix (Post 438970)
p.s. I have got some screenshots from ilya now...
It will be a bomb. Nuclear bomb.
This will probably raise the spirits of our german friends after yesterday's loss.
If we'll publish it today...

262 or lerche?

ATAG_Dutch 06-29-2012 12:23 PM

Henschel 129?

JG52Uther 06-29-2012 12:37 PM

I'm not going to get too excited over a 109.

alado 06-29-2012 12:44 PM

a 747 and, of course, have a great weekend:-P

Ze-Jamz 06-29-2012 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JG52Uther (Post 439075)
I'm not going to get too excited over a 109.

I wouldn't either...not against those Russian beasties.... 190 ftw..

JG52Krupi 06-29-2012 12:53 PM

One of the main reasons we should get the 190 other than that they are getting the la5 is that they have so many diverse fighters that when mixed together they will spell trouble for the 109, by adding the 190 it will hopefully even the playing field a bit by adding some more tactics and being a great ground pounder to boot :D

Zorin 06-29-2012 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JG52Krupi (Post 439082)
One of the main reasons we should get the 190 other than that they are getting thela5 is that they have so many diverse fighters that when mixed will spell trouble for the 109 the 190 will even the playing field a bit adding some more tactics and being a great ground pounder to boot :D

And it entered service way before the La-5 and, while we are at it, Yak-9. So there would be no excuse in the world to not ship BoM without a Fw190.

csThor 06-29-2012 12:56 PM

If they're talking about the Battle of Stalingrad, or even the map for BoM, then no Fw 190 has a place there. It's first appearance on the Eastern Front was in September 1942, too, but on the other side of the frontline (at Lyuban south of Leningrad). The closest a Fw 190 ever got to Stalingrad was a posting of a Staffel of ground-attack A-5 in spring of 1943 on the Taman peninsula whereas at Moscow the Fw 190 did not appear until October 1942.

I'd greatly prefer MG to limit their planeset to the historically relevant types for the operation they wish to depict and not go for some "KeWl factor" or "online balance".

BlackSix 06-29-2012 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by csThor (Post 439085)
I'd greatly prefer MG to limit their planeset to the historically relevant types for the operation they wish to depict and not go for some "KeWl factor" or "online balance".

The historically relevant types of aircraft on the first place, don't worry.

carguy_ 06-29-2012 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JG52Krupi (Post 439082)
One of the main reasons we should get the 190 other than that they are getting the la5 is that they have so many diverse fighters that when mixed together they will spell trouble for the 109, by adding the 190 it will hopefully even the playing field a bit by adding some more tactics and being a great ground pounder to boot :D

Sorry but the Gustav or even Friedrich is more than enough to counter the Lavochkin and it is easier to fly. The only reason I`d onclude the FW190 is absence of a Bf109 equiped in 20mm. Moreover, I`d prefer historical planesets now that CsThor said what he said.

And talking about personal taste - I don`t like escorting FWs.

JG52Krupi 06-29-2012 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by csThor (Post 439085)
If they're talking about the Battle of Stalingrad, or even the map for BoM, then no Fw 190 has a place there. It's first appearance on the Eastern Front was in September 1942, too, but on the other side of the frontline (at Lyuban south of Leningrad). The closest a Fw 190 ever got to Stalingrad was a posting of a Staffel of ground-attack A-5 in spring of 1943 on the Taman peninsula whereas at Moscow the Fw 190 did not appear until October 1942.

I'd greatly prefer MG to limit their planeset to the historically relevant types for the operation they wish to depict and not go for some "KeWl factor" or "online balance".

Was the La5 at stalingrad?

JG52Krupi 06-29-2012 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by carguy_ (Post 439088)
Sorry but the Gustav or even Friedrich is more than enough to counter the Lavochkin and it is easier to fly. The only reason I`d onclude the FW190 is absence of a Bf109 equiped in 20mm. Moreover, I`d prefer historical planesets now that CsThor said what he said.

And talking about personal taste - I don`t like escorting FWs.

Did you even bother to read what i posted.... :!:

Bewolf 06-29-2012 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by carguy_ (Post 439088)
Sorry but the Gustav or even Friedrich is more than enough to counter the Lavochkin and it is easier to fly. The only reason I`d onclude the FW190 is absence of a Bf109 equiped in 20mm. Moreover, I`d prefer historical planesets now that CsThor said what he said.

And talking about personal taste - I don`t like escorting FWs.

Jup, gimme a 109F or early G and that is suficient to keep me happy for a looooong time. A 190 can't hurt either, but I won't throw a tantrum if it is not included initially.

A Hs123 on the other hand....

Skoshi Tiger 06-29-2012 01:21 PM

If we have drivable tanks, we'll need observers. My guess is a Fieseler Storch!

csThor 06-29-2012 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JG52Krupi (Post 439090)
Was the La5 at stalingrad?

Yep. First in combat was 49 IAP in the central combat zone (first claim on August 16 1942) while at Stalingrad 287 IAD (with 27, 240, 297 and 437 IAP) began flying combat missions on August 20 1942.

Blackdog_kt 06-29-2012 01:29 PM

I was mostly flying the 190 in IL2 so i'll be naturally happy if it makes an appearance in the sequel. If it's an early model we could also make use of it in the existing BoB map as well.

In fact, the BoB map is good enough for scenarios up to 43-44 (unless long range bombers are concerned), so i guess that whatever appears for the eastern front add-on could be paired with suitable RAF aircraft and be used on the channel map as well. For example, if we get 109Fs and early 190s, modifying existing RAF flyables to model Spit Mk.Vs and Hurricane Mk.IIs would give us channel front content suitable for 1942, adding a 109G and a Hawker Typhoon or mosquito could move things forward a bit more, and so on.

JG52Krupi 06-29-2012 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by csThor (Post 439097)
Yep. First in combat was 49 IAP in the central combat zone (first claim on August 16 1942) while at Stalingrad 287 IAD (with 27, 240, 297 and 437 IAP) began flying combat missions on August 20 1942.

Well I am all for a realistic plane set, I am by no means saying that since they get the la5 we should get the 190 its just that they have so many types that they can use against the 109 that they have every potential advantage of the 109 covered... la5 below ~3000m and the mig3 is good at high altitudes... etc

We will have to see when they officially announce the sequel.

P.S. If they bring back the infamous bar I will not be bothering :evil: there is already mutterings in the ranks about rather rare Russian aircraft variants being made standard, really hope this is not true!

csThor 06-29-2012 01:41 PM

Any server admin and mission builder with a real interest in history would have to make the Yak-1 Model 1942 (not Yak-1b, though!) the main fighter type of the VVS in 1942, anyway. Any other types (like Yak-7B, LaGG-3, La-5 or any of the Lend&Lease-Types) were far less numerous than the Yak-1 models.

carguy_ 06-29-2012 01:54 PM

\
Yes, csThor. MG did the exact thing in the past.

He111 06-29-2012 02:05 PM

I'm just waiting for my beloved Cementer .. or it's deformed nemisis to shot myself down ..

Talk about inbreeding! ... :shock:

http://www.airwar1946.nl/whif/L46-me110K.htm

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pstyle 06-29-2012 02:12 PM

First half of Friday update is posted by B6. Thread is locked tho.

Skoshi Tiger 06-29-2012 02:12 PM

Who said 109F? They win!

tintifaxl 06-29-2012 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger (Post 439119)
Who said 109F? They win!

I guess no one did. Everyone was hoping for the FW-190.

ATAG_Dutch 06-29-2012 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ATAG_Dutch (Post 439057)
P.S. I'm betting it's a 109F. :(

SCORE!!!!! :grin:

SiThSpAwN 06-29-2012 02:22 PM

Well June 22nd update thread, its been fun this past week, now we will respectfully watch you drop down the thread list into IL2 history *Salute*

:grin:

banned 06-29-2012 02:45 PM

Just friggin unbelievable

Flanker 07-02-2012 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ze-Jamz (Post 437524)
Pacific fighters?, cant think of anything less appealing :cool:

oh, how can you NOT like flying over atolls and archipelagos and beautiful emerald green water in a Corsair or Zero!:)
Pacific Fighters IS the best sequel

TonyD 07-02-2012 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Flanker (Post 440737)
oh, how can you NOT like flying over atolls and archipelagos and beautiful emerald green water in a Corsair or Zero!:)
Pacific Fighters IS the best sequel

I thought so too, mainly because I saw it as a huge upgrade to CFS2 that we were playing on LAN at the time. I was the only one to get it though since one of our group did not like the unknown FM’s and DM’s – he liked to edit these since he was familiar with FS and it was similar. I found out later that he used to cheat like this, and found the PF aircraft too difficult to master :-P I flew the hell out of on my own instead.

jojimbo 07-11-2012 09:33 PM

3 days of posts vanished dammit :rolleyes:
did I miss anything?

I'll buy the sequel simply because the devs could prolly do with the cash,
more cash = fixes, I want to to flourish, so they can work on a new FB
with a HUUUUGE map of Europe, b17's 262's P51's,

any news on a windows 8 fix? it's not windows 8 btw it's this game.


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