Let me help you out....again. The word you are trying to spell is "really" not "relly"(lol...couldn't resist)

You might not fall into the exact definition of "fanboi", so what would you call somebody that tries to silence any negative discussion of your beloved (unplayable) sim?

When you come into the Crystal Ball thread that was created for "general moaning and complaints" by the mods and then say "one can either post and prove to be a bit dense, or one can refrain from posting and stay in the shadow of doubt." What are you hoping to accomplish?

I live in a Democratic country so I guess I'm spoiled with the ability read positive and negative views on products, politicians, etc. I don't know where everyone is from but maybe their desire to have only positive views be heard is a reflection on where they live.

So let me get this straight, your only allowed to post in this thread if your Crystal ball shows only gloom and doom.

You can post whatever you like, that's the point. Not just post whatever robtek likes or he will call you dense, see the difference?

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LOL ;)

Lol!

Word for word....I stand with Force10.

+1

The patch is still not ready, do not expect it this week.
 

Just incase you blinked and missed it,save you pressing f5
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...=28174&page=99

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Mini-update:
The patch is still not ready, do not expect it this week.

thanks for info

What patch?

Looks like an unhappy member to me. Are signatures fake? Than it is a pretty low propaganda method similar to what they used in Russian elections here ;) :grin:

LOL! Our leader of the opposition was filmed making comments about how our first Lady Prime Minister had a fat bottom! :)

Well, couple of activists of our opposition were filmed having sex with some pretty KGB agents :)

We will see similar videos on this forums one day sooner or later, be sure :grin: (unless luthier gives us the patch of cause) :grin:

Thanks - talk about burying a post!

I don't expect it until after Easter, more holidays coming up.
Then Im off to Playa De Carmen. So I hope there a patch by the time I come back end of April.

Can someone explain what "IL-2 in the real engine" means please. Thx

I can almost hear the dev team singing "We gotta patch it up baby before we fall apart at the scenes" :-P

Probably picture of the the IL-2 plane made with the new graphics engine.

screenshots of CoD with the updated engine i suppose, and not from BoM

edit:
never mind... are from the sequel...

Probably in Russia they have 4 weeks holiday over easter so that'll add more time :)

I don't expect a patch this Friday, or next Friday, or the one after that or that or that etc................

Well I guess it's only been 5 months since the last patch we had and a year since the games release..so don't be greedy.

Still we have pretty pictures of the expansion which help....in some sort of way.

Robtek said:

>>before you put your foot further in your mouth and prove my post #391 correct let me correct your misconception of the definition of a "fanboy".

...I still have to read a post where the faults of CoD are denied, afaik there are none.<<

I think about a year's worth of vituperative attacks on anyone who dares question this game-as-holy-grail may just about do it, and makes this point moot, dont you think?

>>If you can't accept this, any communication with you is relly senseless and i'll refrain from continuing it.

Cheerio<<

Why do people try and sound 'English' when trying to sound disdainful?

'Cheerio'...really?

Ya feel me, bro? (see what I mean? Fairly awkward at the best of times...)

Perhaps you dserve an honorary label os one of the stirrer's-in-chief. Sorry, defenders of the faith.

Ben

Ppl read what they want to read, obviously.
Nobody ever denied the faults of CloD, Robtek is spot on here.
Repeating them ad nauseum, however, won't make them a) go away, b) improve moods and game expirience, c) give us a/the patch any faster.

These points have been made to death and it speaks volumes about the actual whiners that they have to be repeated yet again. It's like a constant "Are we there yet? I need to pee! He put chewing gum in my hair!". Fast forward another year, it still is "Are we there yet? I need to pee! He put chewing gum in my hair!"

Your argument is not improved by dissing other's writing style.

Aha ;)

S!

Easter is important for orthodox religion and sure will be holidays. Also expect some time off when the Great Patriotic War celebration comes too etc. But these guys can use time off too like everyone of us.

Simple. It is because us English are the championship title holders of disdain. If you want to appear disdainful you turn to the masters. :D

This threads overdue a youtube link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc9bwoduQTc

That's a very sensible way of thinking, if you never expect it you will:

1) keep your sanity
2) be pleasantly surprised when/if it will be released






:grin:

Oi! Oi! ;)

Bewolf said:

>>Ppl read what they want to read, obviously.<<

Not always. Sure, some people can be selective.

>>Nobody ever denied the faults of CloD, Robtek is spot on here.<<

Yes they have, in extremis. Including the devs themselves for a long time, by side-stepping the obvious. Only when the outcry reached sufficient size did they do a u-turn. denying the faults can take many forms, from ignoring what you dont want to hear, to attacking posters who make valid critcism. It happens a lot.

>>Repeating them ad nauseum, however, won't make them a) go away, b) improve moods and game expirience, c) give us a/the patch any faster.<<

The 'mood' is determined by many things. Lack of straight-talking and fawning doesn't help. The repetition is boundless on both sides.

>>These points have been made to death and it speaks volumes about the actual whiners that they have to be repeated yet again. <<

So, then, your post, is what exactly? Whining about whining about whining about whining...ad nauseam.

>>Your argument is not improved by dissing other's writing style. <<

I'm not making a fancier point. The wiriting style, as elsewhere in life, betrays the post and the poster. It tends to make a rather nasty stain.

An 'argument' is not the aim. The aim is to point-out the nastiness-masquerading-as-moral-high-ground-patience-of-a-saint rhetoric of some fairly nasty and dowdy posters. Add that to a fawning acceptance of the situation - and worse, a tacit approval of the sequel - and you have unreality gone mad.

What's more, such nasty posters tend to go for posters who are not as adept with the language (perhaps English isn't their first language). I can't stand them, any of them.

*That* sets the mood. About time they had some of 'dem apples' back.

Ben

The development has been rebuilding the game engine, atleast the graphic portion, which was causing the main performance issues. The screenshots of the IL-2 for BOM were probably taken on one of the builds of the performance/graphics patch. All the sequels will be built on the same game engine, any fixes too the graphics, AI, COMMANDS, FM, DM, Weather, will apply to all sequels including COD. The "real engine" probably refers to one of the recent game engine performance/graphics rewrites/builds.

Well, how do you reply to a lot of hot air and a distinct lack of substance?
Right, you don't. Have a good week end

Bewolf said:

>>Well, how do you reply to a lot of hot air and a distinct lack of substance?<<

I dont know, but I have feeling I'm going to have to get some practise in.

You didn't set up those skittles very well....

And what's the weekend got to do with it?

Ben

What's wrong with you Chivas, don't you know this thread isn't for talking about the game!? ;)

At any rate, when I peer into my Crystal Ball, I see one problem. They keep referring to BoM as a sequel, which to me means they're going to charge full game price.

If bom includes only new models and a new map, this is in fact not a sequel but an expansion. Charging $50 for models and a map is exactly what Call of Duty does, and I don't like the sound of that. Has there been any previous facts given on this by 1C?

I don't really care what the developers call them. The developers have long planned to add theaters the same way as the past IL-2 series. Each theater can be standalone or merged with the previous theaters. So that any new improvements and feature options can be applied to all theaters when merged. Its a sound business plan. For your 50 dollars you'll get new maps, aircraft, buildings, objects, and new features. The game engine was designed to be relatively future proof, so they could keep adding features and theaters for atleast ten years, as they did in the first series. Some would say the game engine is old already, I would suggest the game engine isn't even finished yet.

Hmm.. well if they do intend to charge $50, we can pretty much not expect a SDK until they've moved on to another product, as models and maps are the easiest thing for modders to make. I will, personally, not be paying $50 as I don't support the Call of Duty business model. If they add major changes to the engine or something that takes more than just extra art and FM to match I would be willing to reconsider.

Look at the development history of IL2. There is all you need to know about their business model.

Paying 50$ for a sequel / add-on / expansion / stand alone / whatever is really dirt cheap regarding what one is getting for that money.

Everybody has seen now the quality of the models and the landscape, compare that to any other Flight-sim and then compare the pricing!

Not to mention the Bugs, the CTDs, the poor performance... ;)

Your PC isn't powerful enough, you see, this game is actually a year 2023 game. You have to find a time machine and travel in to the future, there you can acquire a rig powerful enough (nuclear class) to run this game in full settings...except for forests of course, leave that setting on low. This is unless, of course, they have released the performance patch by then...oh wait! I just came back from a Friday update in 2020 "We were juuuuust about to upload the patch to Steam III but it seems the pilots boots are causing an unexpected anomaly in the graphics engine, we are glad however to report that the performance has now increased 23 x 104%. Here, enjoy these static pictures of a vintage 1980's American schoolbus that will be in the add-o...ehr sequel €€ "IL-2 Battle of the Suburbs"...have a nice weekend!"

I'm still waiting to see what I'm getting for the $50 dollars I paid for COD. It hasn't been worth it yet IMO. Models and landscape are great but I'm hoping they have some sort immersion as a pilot.

Agreed 100%

Oh sure..

A min wage starbucks barista with three kids to feed might not think so..

But than again a min wage starbucks barista with three kids to feed shouldn't be spending money on a high end PC to play games in the first place.. Let alone any $50 game

Originally Posted by robtek
Paying 50$ for a sequel / add-on / expansion / stand alone / whatever is really dirt cheap regarding what one is getting for that money.

Everybody has seen now the quality of the models and the landscape, compare that to any other Flight-sim and then compare the pricing!




Sorta like going to the cat house...paying $50...coming out with a dose of the clap...and saying...I got it for cheap. A year later? It still burns.

Ah...the weekend...time for a libation on the veranda:cool:

Using personal experience to support your arguments is usually a good idea, but you might want to reconsider.

OK, that made me chuckle.

Far better than all the tit for tat sparring that is going on in here lately.

That doesn't make sense in this context. I wouldn't buy a Honda Civic for $30.000 just because I can.

Its all about value. The question is whether or not you believe the product is worth $50, not whether or not you can afford it.

As i had ove 500 hours fun with this game, it was well worth the 70 Euro i've paid for it.

But then, not everybody is able or willing to make the best out of a given situation.

Regarding the number of posters in this forum i`d say the majority is able to get enough fun out of CoD to refrain from lamenting, the rest is answering or attacking my pov / posts.

I have no idea when the SDK will come out, but thats what the developer has plans to do. Apparently the SDK will only allow modders to build small maps and that will leave the large theater maps for the developer. The business model has changed somewhat to allow modders instead of deterring them. They were hoping to attract the large FSX type community players and modders, that will certainly help the bottom line. Nothing says you can't have servers with unarmed aircraft using the future features and maps of the new IL-2 series. Hopefully the SDK will allow modders to improve the large development maps, not build them but improve them.

http://www.garbhayoga.com/images/maestro-01.jpg
wise old sage spoke

LoL

Maybe for some

You imply that I did not understand what you wrote, when clearly I did and had you quoted the whole post it would be obvious - hence your editting.

Quote the rest of the post and disprove my logic, otherwise insults about my intelligence will be baseless.

No, the pictures are made in the current graphics engine. Previous IL-2 plane screenshots were in 3D development tools, not the game engine.

>>But then, not everybody is able or willing to make the best out of a given situation.<<

Unlike who? You, presumably?

>>Regarding the number of posters in this forum i`d say the majority is able to get enough fun out of CoD to refrain from lamenting, the rest is answering or attacking my pov / posts. <<

And what about those posters, such as yourself, who seem to spend more time posting, than actually playing the game?

I'm assuming you would bracket yourself and the other pro-Clod elements as also happening to be those who are willing to make the best of a given situation, no?

Is it hard to bear the weight of all that superiority and wisdom?

Ben

Aces-of-Aces wrote:

>>Maybe for some<<

In terms of the snide hit-and-run and fuel-on-the-fire comments, you are at least the equal of Hayward.

Ben

No, not just you, note I said 'some'. Which means you may not be the only one that did not understand

You and mx are both confused.. Pointing out what I said may not make sense to some is not a snide comment.. It is an observation. It says nothing about his intelligence level.. where as his over reaction to what I said does imho.

PS For future reference, I take being compared to Hayward as a complement.

Oh, not at all, Ben.

As i've spent over 500 hours in CoD and had my fun, i still can't look into the heads of other non-lamenting posters here.

Be it as it may, it is definitely better, imo, of course, to enjoy what one has and having the hope that it gets better,
then craving for something and sling mud on it because ones dreams aren't fulfilled.

Defending the mud-slingers as rightful critics is even more pathetic, still imo, because all bugs and errors have been reported a long time ago and the devs are working to remove them.

But all this has been posted quite a few times and still some people do believe that slinging mud on something they are craving for earns them more then pity and a few answering lines in a forum.

Ace-of-Aces said:

>>PS For future reference, I take being compared to Hayward as a complement. <<

You mean 'compliment'. Unless you mean a 'complement of Haywards'. But I am guessing you didn't. Too busy stoking.

Either way, not a good move.

Robtek said:

Oh, not at all, Ben.

>>As i've spent over 500 hours in CoD and had my fun, i still can't look into the heads of other non-lamenting posters here.<<

You may want to re-phrase this.

>>Be it as it may, it is definitely better, imo, of course, to enjoy what one has and having the hope that it gets better, then craving for something and sling mud on it because ones dreams aren't fulfilled.<<

But surely better than either just to tell it it how it is, surely, and what needs fixing? Just how rose-tinted do you have to be?

>>Defending the mud-slingers as rightful critics is even more pathetic, <<

It depends on the criticism (and the mud-slinging). The devs didn't directly acknowledge the obvious problems for a long time, then only glancingly, then under duress. And then they dont like doing it, and get petulant. A bit liek the savid supporters, in fact. In fact, very much liek the avid supporters.

>>still imo, because all bugs and errors have been reported a long time ago and the devs are working to remove them.<<

And what of the much abally-hooed dynamic weather and campaign? And why are are being gicven (very low quality) pics of the sequel? (already!). Still, it beats the banjo...just....

>>But all this has been posted quite a few times and still some people do believe that slinging mud on something they are craving for earns them more then pity and a few answering lines in a forum. <<

So you say, adding to it. And adopting a more conciliatory tone when it suits you.

I still think the devs need a better idea of the enormity of the omissions and glaring faults, and a farbetter sense of priority (or the publishers do, or whatever). More targetted criticism is needed, not less. And to do this means cutting throug the tripe of critic-baiting, of which you are as guilty as several others. Whethe rit's rose-tinted optimism, forgetfulness, or plain servility, or just the good old sprt of critic-baiting...none of it matters. What matters is the game is delivered remotely as promised. perhaps just a sense of accountability. Very ho-hum pics of a sequel at this stage? Really?

Ben

That is your opinion and your welcome to it.. Just know that I don't agree with you.

I think you are confusing "dreams aren't fulfilled" with "a functioning product". But yes, my dream of a functioning product was not fulfilled. I guess the fact you have spent 500 hours on the game and countless more here at the forums speaks volumes. I am an adult with kids and "big person" responsibilities, so I don't have the time to try and "make a sim" with the FMB or completely lower my definition of "playable" to make me feel better about my purchase such as you have. The fact the devs are completely rebuilding the gfx engine is enough for most folks to realize that the first engine was wrongfully pushed on to us, for full price no less.

I'm glad you can enjoy using your imagination to where you have AI that is serviceable, radio commands, etc. and fill in all the other gaping holes in game. Most of us don't take up residence in fantasyland however, so we are stuck here in reality. There is some comic relief however from the faithful folks that just "can't believe" that everyone can't use there imaginations as they do, and imagine it was worth $50.

Keep em' coming Ace and robtek, laughter is the best medicine at this point so I look forward to your next attack on people and their lack of imagination.

This is a sad, sad thread.

It does nothing to advance the completeion of the sim to the level we all want it to be at.

It reminds me of the guy who hits himself in the head with a hammer because it feels so good when he stops doing it, only you guys never stop beating each other's heads in.

I know for a fact that many of you are well ovet 40 years old, and are intelligent, responsible adults.

Why act like 14 year old playground ruffians in here?

Why?

I agree it's sad. Just about everyone agrees the sim is fundamentaly broken but if anyone dares to mention it, the hammer comes down. The attacks come in the form of "I have 1000 hours playing this broken game, and if you can't find a way to enjoy it, your an idiot". All this does is lengthen the argument further, creating more posts about how the sim is broken. These folks just don't understand that by attacking they just make threads and posts last longer and hurt the sim more.

I'm personally enjoying CoD, but in a narrower gaming envelope than Il2:1946. Less planes, less maps, less missions, lower planes ceiling, less online time (also because of CTD), no offline at all. This narrowness is partially compensated by the great graphics and DM.

Everyone is right in this kind of debates, in a sense: fun is there, but tempered with the remaining bugs and the current state of development. Someone emphasizes the bugs, someone else emphasizes the fun. Both are there, definitely.

Honestly Elaurens, it's not even about the game anymore, it's about all about peoples opinions which means there is no right or wrong here and that's why the argumentation never stops. Really, there isn't anything more to say about CloD, it has problems it's hopefully gonna be fixed soon and that's it really.

I agree addman.

Nothing more to say, so why keep saying it?


This thread should have been locked at page one.

I do not get it.

"Just about everyone agrees the sim is fundamentaly broken"

So what sense is there in repeating the obvious all over again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and so on.

Addman got it nailed, this is not about the game, but solely Ego.

I think it's because some people keeps objecting at the people that points out the flaws of the game so then the people that keeps pointing out the flaws keeps doing that out of spite of the people that object to the flaw pointing people and then people that object at the flaw pointing people keeps objecting and it goes on and on and on and on and on.....

Raaaaid haven't invented perpetual motion but this forum has evolved in to it.

Well?
The way I see it?
Falstaff is saying?
"If you got the time, he's got the beer"

Pretty much most of the realists here?
Are tired of drinking the Chivas...and milk.

So far, it's been fun...:)

I guess it's because people get attacked for not spending 500 hours on a sim that's fundamentaly broken. Robtek says he has got more than his money's worth out of the game. What that says to the devs is that it's time to leave COD where it is and move on to the sequel. Most of us that have shelved the game til it's fixed don't think we have got any value out of it yet and are not ready for the devs to hold over fixes for the sequel.

By the way Bewolf, you know how many times someone has said the same thing is being said over and over again? Thanks for adding in your exceptionally long winded nauseum to the thread and welcome to the "ad-nauseum" party.

Sorry Force, if you really think that the devs dont strive to remove all fallacies and errors of their work, with or without any forum input, you are much more blind then I thought.

In short you are saying that developement continues only because of the whining, thats as cross as a tail wagging the dog.

And that you dont seem to understand that any developement for the "sequel" is also a developement for CoD as they are using the same engine is really sad.

And finally, the more positive posters were only reacting to the overboarding whining in the beginning, now its a self runner. :D

Just to have a positive ending. :D :D :D

There is a serious side to it, or there could be.

If you can clear all the batlefield smoke and mist out of the way (ridiculous optimism, blind faith, mis-reading the past, Tarot-cards for the future) then you could have a ground-swell of sensible opinion which the devs could actually find useful and instructive, or at least worth taking note of. It may even influence certain priorities and directions.

As it is you have a foxhunt with the rosier-cheeked members sat on high horses blowing their trumpets, ta-da, while encouraging the dogs on the ground to go after any fox that dares criticise. And throwing smoke-bombs to obfuscate as much as they can.

I particularly enjoy the standard line 'but we know it's broken, we knew all along, you dont need to keep saying'. As far as i can tell it is mostly spoken by those who argued bitterly with any early problem-raising, ignored the defects, assailed anyone who asked for missing features, and generally let a few months go by before quietly sneaking in the odd tacit admission all was not bright and rosy. Then crossed their arms and looked all smug. Hmm.

Never mind those who spend 1000s upgrading base don the those 'certain certainties'.

This is why the more idiot elements need reigning in, or at least countering. I have no problem with anyone liking the game for what it is. But could be, and will be? Or is that 'should have been'?

Ben

Agreed. I'd like to see them ban you.

David Hayward said:

>>Agreed. I'd like to see them ban you. <<

You're just an all-round nice guy and good egg aren't you?

That may well happen, or I'll probably leave again in any case. You can then insert a smart quip.

In my opinion you should have been banned many months ago, for one insidious jibe after another, steadily maintained, with the occasional outburst of really low, dowdy, spiteful obnoxiousness. I could quote, but it would some time to gather all the available evidence. A few days in fact.

I have no respect, or even sneaking respect for you, or the people like you. But you are probably aware of that. Good.

I understand perfectly. The fear is they are going to release the gfx patch for COD, and the rest will follow on the sequel. Since COD runs great on my machine now, I will gain nothing from the gfx patch and have to drop another $50 for the AI,FM,DM, etc. for the sequel updates that update COD. This is more of a possibility when you have people stating constantly "I have got my money's worth and more from COD, what's wrong with you people"

There is a vast majority of folks that have simply shelved COD and moved on to other things while quietly waiting for COD to be fixed. If they find out that that $50 bill collecting dust on their shelf is going to cost another $50 to be patched properly, they probably will lose interest completely, and not purchase the sequel. I don't want that to happen.

+1000

Right back at ya!

I don't think that's going to happen. I know that if it does happen as you describe it will greatly curb my buying decision regarding BoM. I don't expect detailed clouds and weather formations, but I would expect AI, FM working comms and at least a working on-line mode for those who use it to be implimented in CoD independant of BoM.

I also think (hopeful) that 1C sees it the same way. They know that despite the whining, there has been a lot of support too. Even the most ardent whiners are fans who expected something better and are disappointed. Releasing the corrections and features independant of CoD (or even only dovetailed into CoD with purchase of BoM) will lead to an even greater loss of faith in the company. It would be suicide IMO.

That's the deal i think, but hope not.

People moaned when we saw the tanks and AA guns that it would slow down development of the other important features like FM, AI, DM, FSAA, COOPS, CEM for CLOD, but we were told that "dont worry its only a couple of guys and the rest of the team would be working hard on other fixes for CLOD at the same time".

Now when we ask if we will get other fixes in the patch, were told the graphics rewrite patch is holding things up and we will have to wait for other patches to fix these features (again complete guesswork)

Now we see the development of BOM is moving along nicely with changes to the graphics engine being seen and changes to the AI, all at the same time as the patch is being worked on.

The team has had getting on for half a year to fix the problems of CLOD.

No excuses this time.

I`m actually interested in what you make of this statement.

Carguy, in the 6 months since the last patch the development team must of made progress in the other features,FM, AI and the rest, in fact we have had no AI update since last June.

If they are not just working on BOM then 6 months is enough time to fix some of the more pressing problems for CLOD.

I'm looking forward to functional radio commands so I finally can play the offline missions I've made. Hoping it will be in the second patch release. "Hoping" being the key word here as a certain someone would say. ;)

Yes, yes. You have just stated that for the 2nd time. Now I ask you what you make of it.

Sorry, i dont understand what your getting at?

What do you intend to do about them not fixing the issues in time?

Shake my fist and jump up and down?

I can`t say I didn`t expect that.

Are you guys not bored of this back and forth yourselves?

Doesn't seem so. I dont mind the banter, it passes the time while we wait.

would it kill you to take it to PM's so everybody else who is less enthusiastic doesn't have to see it?....not aimed just a you in particular, but everyone involved, these argument just boil down to personal point scoring anyway.

This is the crystal ball thread right? You know, the future of CLOD, i was talking about CLOD's future right? what the problem?

I would appreciate a less hostile tone to your responses thank you, I don't recall being rude to you.

Yes that's right, it's a 'future of COD' thread....not an 'I'm right youre wrong ' thread.

Hostile? where? you told me to take it to PM, i asked whats the problem with talking about the future of CLOD in the crystal ball thread?

Sorry i dont see where i was hostile towards you.

.....sarcasm

Typically a hostile response, either way a less than endearing method to reply.

and I must say there doesn't seem to be much 'future of COD' content in the back and forth point scoring spats.

I think your being a little sensitive mate sorry.

Appology accepted

p.s. I can assure you I'm not the sensitive type

Is this a record. You blokes made up in 7 replies. :)

Cool, can i carry on now?