True true.
But new era needs new name. It would have been perfect to write on the package that it's from the makers of IL-2.
But taking the old name.
Oleg said himself that they want to make newbies also from other genres to buy the game.

When new people who haven't played IL-2 hear the name, they will maybe look in the internet and find out (by mistake) that the game engine is from 2000 or so.
Goodbye big sales.

Not for the last couple of months mate........

Nice looking kit...where's the 109 manual:-P'


http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f3...1541291588.jpg

:cool:

This is so very exciting.

*Off to pre-order*

Why is there always a burning axis plane on the cover?
In FB it was a burning stuka, PF it was a burning zero and now it seems to be a burning heinkel bomber ;)

Umm, because they lost perhaps?

Just a wild guess mind you.


:rolleyes:

Finally the DVD cover artwork ... it looks credible. The end March release date is not quite credible, though ...

Thx for posting this finding.

Cheers,
Insuber

great artwork but due do ubisoft and due to drm all those years of waiting might come to a dissapointment. do not that 1c has the major responsability but i might gice it at least a 25%

You didn't really expect it to come without any kind of DRM at all, did you?

offcourse i expect protection
lets say that the DRM it was my worst case scenario

What kind of protection did you expect/hope for?

I mean, wtf? Online activation is soooo ok - if it stays at that.

Its a 109 burning from a very unusual spot on the wing around the position of the wheel well and cannon. Well away from any fuel tanks.

Great, now we can nitpick the box art to death. :roll:

well we don't want to mislead new players into shooting at the wrong spot :D

Thank lord there are no clouds on the cover.

Oh! No wonder my entry in the recent 'BOB Box Art Contest' didn't get to the finals! I had A striking image of victorious Japanese troops frog marching past Nelsons column with waves of Ar-234's in the background. Quite stiring I though!

;)

:grin:

Is that an official photo SlipBall? Couldn't find it on the link supplied.

If it is then the inclusion of an original Spitfire manual shows real confidence in the accuracy of the sim's systems and operating parameters.

here you can find more infos: http://www.gbase.ch/PC/news/IL-2---C...992/47724.html

What surprises me is this fact (same link):

+In the solo campaign, you will sent into battle as a Royal Air Force pilot.

So, no German solo campaign?

quote
Is that an official photo SlipBall?


I found it here
http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.ph...ml#Post3177736
but it seems to be widespread at the pre-order sites:grin:

Thanks Slipball, it does look impressive. Hope Oleg would get the extra if we go for the collectors edition. Can't stand the thought of the publisher making more than the developer after the years of blood and sweat that Oleg has put into this.

onlne activation ok, but ubisoft last year launched constabnt onlien connection and becasue of that im worried, i do not want to think how people might interpret what is written in teh box..sorry enlgish not native language

Constant online is very unlikely; one-time online activation is acceptable to most people.
(Funny thing: your grammar looks OK ... but plenty of typos, easily solvable with the automatic spelling check ... mmmmhhhh ....)

I believe the internet connection is just for initial activation, but I could care less as my computer is always on-line thru cable connection anyway.

I'm in favor of anyway they can protect their investmest as thats in my best interests aswell.

That's nice for you,

but other people don't have permanent internet connection and some have a very unstable or slow connection.
It's ignorant to pretend there weren't any problems.

Did I say anywhere that there weren't internet problems although I doubt they are as bad as some people might suggest.

What and where did Oleg promise?

just like in ROF.....but its better guys since that will prevent cheating...AND PIRACY (you would not be able to fly online)

"IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs Of Dover

The name is for real. Just got that confirmed. I'm going to change the name of the forum."


From goud over at SimHQ (hope he dont mind)

Online DRM has destroyed SilentHunter series... 90% of real fans where outraged and abandoned series, disgusted... I've seen it all.

Now... it is turn to Il-2 series - to end up in recycle bin of simulation history.

Very, very sad... after years of waiting - we end up with online DRM and Ubisoft ?!?

There is an old saying, "Do not count your chickens until they hatch".

when they hatch - it is too late...

This is the last moment to avoid Ubisoft "single player permanent connection and online save..." rubbish.

But it takes a loud voice of il-2 community warning!!!

( I am afraid that Oleg has already signed his Ubisoft marriage... )

Oleg has a mind of his own, and the most excellent air combat simulator available, even now with the old Il2.

He has many years of experience with Ubisoft. I'm quite sure there will be mutual respect in any agreement they will make.

Ubisoft blew it when they put invasive piracy protection in PE-2 addon and it bombed. There was no further PE-2 type protection in any subsequent add on Il2 releases. A lesson learned I would say.

You can complain of course, but don't make a nuisance of yourself in the process on these boards. Our members will only tolerate so much...

Thanks

As I read it, the majority of people gave up on Silent Hunter V because it wasn't anywhere near as good as its predecessors game-wise, not because of DRM. We know that's not going to be the same with this sim.

Given that many of us are prepared to fork over our money in the general direction of Oleg & Co I for one will be glad to see some form of DRM involved - I want to see this production become successful and be profitable, not available free to anyone without a conscience. And if you think that everyone would pay up 'cos we're all sim fans' then you're out of your mind.

You really don't know this community very well. There would be no putting up with any online only arrangement.

Oleg knows that, he is very in-touch with his users. Online activation, if it is used will probably be a first time activation only.

DRM
DRM
DRM
DRM


Stop it with the DRM ranting! Ubisoft released Silent Hunter V and Assassin Creed II with that "Constant online DRM" and they soon afterwards released patches to remove it. They learned their lesson. R.U.S.E. was just released and it didn't have that DRM, just the "Activate then Play" DRM.

Maybe you should wait until we have an answer before you start working yourselves into a frenzy and smashing all your Warhammer 40K figurines and ripping your anime posters off the wall.

Sure Ubisoft is run by shortsighted crooks. Sure they are heavy handed when dealing with developers and they manufacture child porn on the side, but they do learn from their mistakes when it costs them money. Just be patient and wait for an answer from Oleg or Ubisoft themselves.

WOP requires activation and you have to deactivate the installation if you need to install it again or transfer it to another PC. Is it likely that SOW be restricted to a single PC licence (as with WOP)?

We'll have to wait and see when it's out or if Ubisoft makes a press release. I'm guessing Oleg is going to keep his mouth shut since that's probably a "publisher question" that he isn't allowed to answer. Honestly I wouldn't really care about the activation/deactivation thing for installing and uninstalling since I can't afford 2 PC's that will run it.

Wrong mate... fans expressed themselves, very clearly (but too late):

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=160783

Considering that these are "hardcore" fans... you can imagine the rest of market... (former market)

:(

I have been waiting at least 2 weeks for this sim to come, when it comes i will buy it regardless having same publisher as il2,drm,steam,punkbuster,internetor even if i had to have a made in russia oleg approved pc to run it i will buy it!

Unless i can get a dodgy download

So now that the publisher has been introduced is the release date up to them?

Interim germany 28 march, i think some of us are hoping for announcement today, you never know,oleg may say 2 weeks

Oleg probably wont say anything, it's down to UBI to announce and that still hasn't changed even after the leak.

I thaught it would be UBI I hoped it wasent but hell i am still going to get it and as they said then bash the bosh...and sh*t (If you watch Armstronf and miller you will under stand that)

I saw that too but i tought it was a fake. I prefer the Bob:saw title btw, I think it is more striking....oh well I' ll just put on Eric Johnson when I'll install it :P

(Ubi please don't F- this up >.<)

Does anybody still believe to release dates of online game shops? Not backed up by any official statement? OMG, that's really wishful thinking. On my side I'm like St-Thomas, I will believe to a date when I will see the DVD on a (even virtual) shelf.

My advice: enjoy the 4.10, explore all the new functions and novelties, and wait for the 4.11 with 6DOF (I hope!), mates. Il2 is still a top-notch flight sim, anyway.

Cheers,
Insuber

Nobody believed the release date posted, as thats ALWAYS subject to change. What was exiting is the credible info on the name change, possibility we could see the sim early this year, and rumored announcement next week. The name change has been confirmed by credible sources and Oleg has confirmed the official announcement next week.

edited to read "this year".

I'm not too concerned about the BoB DRM, I'd be happy with online activation, and I don't think they'll require always on (if they did I'd be mad). But I wanted to buy Assassins Creed 2 this christmas, and I didn't because it STILL (at least 2 weeks ago) requires a connection every single time you play. That's an improvement on what it was, but still not good.

What? You're excited that we could see it early next year. Wow, you really are a pessimistic fellow.

oops its already next year, lol

Oleg pointed out several times that it's not his decision but the publisher's. Not sure how one could read that differently, all pretty unambiguous.

I have, that's the point, Oleg didn't promise anything of the kind, it's you that needs to re-read his posts and adjust your comments.

Ah, you're still hungover from 2010 - that makes more sense than you hoping we'll see this in 2012.

strategic decision, big partner, more distribution channels = higher chance of success.
Plus, (guess) if it's indeed a success, maybe ubi helps to finance successors.

It would be hard to publish the game themselves if Ubi has been footing a portion of the development costs for all these years. I also don't believe Oleg ever said there would be not be a DRM. They will have to some sort of protection unless they want to lose alot of money.

No he didn't. He might have said he preferred no DRM but he made no promise that it would ship with none.

And don't confuse DRM with copy-protection, thats two pairs of shoes.

Dont know if this was posted but Ubisoft just changed their DRM a few weeks ago. You only need to verify your game online now, after that you can play offline and do not need a constant connection. Was on PC gamer news.

Do you have to varify it online every time you play the game?

Was it officiall Ubisoft statemnt ?:rolleyes:

Or...somebody... said something...

Good news indeed.:grin:

Yes, but...
As Hecke points out, it's not clearly once only. Assassin's Creed 2 still requires you to be online every single time you play. So no playing that on the laptop away from home.

There's no point arguing or speculating since nobody know for sure. Maybe they only use the "always online" DRM for their A++ titles for a month or so, then patch it out. Maybe a second string title like COD won't have it to begin with. We're just going to have to wait for the official press release to know.

Honestly, I don't know what the executives over at Ubisoft love more. Intrusive DRM or denying the holocaust. :rolleyes:

you might want to edit that....its in very very poor taste.

What do you expect from someone called speculum jockey...?

Better?

New release date 30.06.2011 ???

http://www.gameexpres.cz/hra-pre-pc-...r-p-12262.html

Should they not have Russian on their box art, rather than just copying the box art we've already seen?

Does anyone like the name Cliffs of Dover? I'm not really bothered, but it's a terrible name. What on earth is wrong with BoB? Everyone knows what that means. Everyone also knows what CoD is, and it's not a flight simulator.

Cliffs of Dover is the name for the area of conflict. The name of the sim is IL2 STURMOVIK which I am sure will be carried over through the series.
Just like Battle over Korea - IL2 STURMOVIK will be the name of there next sim :grin:

Cliffs of Dover is a little bit too specific.. More of a landmark than an area.
What next? 'France - The Battle of the Eifel Tower'?

Like most I don't really care what it's called but Cliffs of Dover misses the point slightly it's too, er.. narrow(?)

No, next will be...

deep blue water of pacific
hot sand of africain desert


Oleg, you failed with a very important decision.

It's not his decision, it's not nearly as important as some people seem to make it, and whether it's indeed a failure is anyone's guess at this point. Otherwise you're correct though :-P

What are you going to play? The titel or the game?
All that is now missing is a debate if the color of the box is right or not....:rolleyes:

calling this sim "IL2 Sturmovik - Cliffs of Dover"

is as crappy as

calling Race driver grid "VW Käfer - black asphalt of the road"


I could imagine that Ubisoft wants to kill all russian developing studios to become the only monopole. That would justify the decision.

Building brands is a costly process. By using the old name they can target people who know the brand but are not hardcore enthusiastic enough to know that SOW is made by the same people.. So businesswise it's a very logical decision. IL-2 is a hugely acclaimed brand so why not use it in a "sequel" ?

Anyway. I don't understand this nitpicking about stupid things.. Why do you care what's the name of the game? As long as it flys well I'm happy.

Too much stowed energy!!!

No, its not!
























runs

Their is a huge difference between "XYZ: new title" and "New Title. from the makers of XYZ"

IL-2 is a name of an airplane, and the game is named after that famous airplane and focused on that airplane.
BoB did not have that airplane, has no Russian airplane, and is 1000's of KM away from Russia!

SO WHAT???

It's just a name!!!

Whom do you want to impress with your ideas?

99,9% of the readers here know what IL2:CoD stands for and wont confuse it with anything else.

The name of the game doesn´t matter!

But a possible permanent internet connection very well!


On a german forum it was confirmed by UBI_Marc (UBISOFT), that the user has to activate once online and that there don t have to be permanent internet connection.

sorry guys if it was posted before...Will IL2: COD be DX9 or DX10? I think Oleg stated once it wont be opengl....

S!

Tvrdi, it has been said by Oleg that this new sim will be DirectX 9/10/11. With DirectX 11 you get all the bells and whistles where the DirectX 9/10 would be for the lower end machines.

This might be good news. New screenshots at gamepressure.com


http://games.gamepressure.com/view_screen.asp?ID=201184

I guess this is the site to keep our eyes on and check the "News" Their logo looks like a 109 spinner. Anyone else notice that?


http://www.ubi.com/ENCA/default.aspx

No! Because it is the usual Ubi Logo...


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Yes I know it's a fluke but... Let the Messerschmitt force be with us! 8 )

Looks like we can unsticky this thread, moving onward and upward to better discussions.

Shareable planes?
 

Can someone confirm this? Not sure what the source is that's all (did Oleg say this?). Quite interested to know if aircraft will be "shareable" in MP as well. Especially for bombers and their turrets.

If so, will players be able to Join In Progress to a turret on an already flying bomber piloted by another player? Or is this only avail on takeoff/menu?

Hello,

I would second this information request as the most wanted feature that I have would be hopping into another bomber and playing gunner once your plane has been shot down.

Thanks if anyone knows

Nov 21 ---> Jul 19 = 8 months. Optimism is no substitute for expert opinion.