Good God.

/facepalm/

Oh ! Loopdreams! Thank You for that!

Outstanding!

LJB:cool:

oh you've gotta love them two

True. If anything, I think the 20th century showed us that "civilization" is just a thin veneer, easily destroyed in times of war & hardship. Our ideas and ideals have advanced, but we're all still the exact same species as the barbarians who sacked Rome and the gas chamber operators of Auschwitz. It is through realizing this potential for barbarity inherent in all of us that we can avoid it. I At least that's my take on it.

I also would like some Axis missions. Sturmovik is just a game... no need to get political.
It's always nice to get the big picture by witnessing both points of view.

100% agree. Thats why I've forsaken this game and just play IL2 on the PC like i've done for the last 6 years where I can happily fly German aircraft.

Has anyone ever played the PC strategy game "Jeff Wayne's War of the Worlds"?

If your not familiar with the famous story from H.G. Wells "War of the Worlds" is about Martian's invading Earth because they are jealous of our beautiful planet and want it for themselves. The book is set in Victorian Britain and as such the Martian attack meets little resistance due to the highly advanced technology they possess. It's only due to Mother Nature's defence mechanism, bacteria, that the Martian's are unsuccessful and effectively die from the common cold.

Just in case you are wondering what my point is, the argument given that playing for the loosing side is a bad idea for the game didn't apply to the PC game version of "War of the Worlds" because it was up to the player to choose if he would play as Humanity OR the Martians (even though ultimately you would be playing for the loosing side).

Additionally, what could be more morally wrong than playing as a race of Martian's trying to eradicate Humanity off the face of the Earth?

But the bottom line is, none of this arguing matters because ITS JUST A GAME!!

At the same time, I can completely accept that the developers of BOP didn't want to risk causing offence, best to be on the safe side of course. But why not just say that rather than try and debate about morals and politics? i think the huge amount of political and moral debating going on in this forum is absolutely pointless and inconsequential, it changes nothing and I'm fairly surprised that the developers are even bothering with getting involved in it.

Just my 2 cents regarding the need for German planes :

I don't actually miss a German campaign, but German cockpits are needed for simulator online play (hopefully with a way to restrict the use of planes without cockpits).

My decision regarding buying future DLC depends on mainly on how online play will develop (that's the reason i bought IL2 + Forgotten Battles + Aces Expansion + Pacific Fighters + 1946 for the PC)

It's not much of a Debate. The majority seems to prefer German Aircraft being completely accessable. And everybody knows that neither side in any conflict are in the complete Right or Wrong.

What would be the risk to the Creators of BOP? They already have it in the PC Version, for some time now, and other game Mfr's seem to have no problem with it in other venues.

LJB :cool: