Looks like it is modelled. But 25-75 rpm to low after warming up to 50°C oil and 60-70°C water temp.
I only reached 2175 rpm on both engines, but should reach 2200-2250 rpm.
so ~ 50 rpm are missing.
For everyone who want to test it too, slowly warm up with 800 rpm and pitch 12:00 to:
min oil temp: 40°C
max water temp: 80°C
Set trim to Hecklastig (heavy tail)
Pull your stick a little bit (or eat the grass :rolleyes: ) and push the throttle to 1,3 ata and keep it (not longer than 5 min).
Check if 2200-2250 is reached.

He said it was when he was 9 or 10 years old. Sheffield is built on 7 hills, so at the back of his row of terreced houses (in England terraced house where built around 1900 as a general rule) was a wall of about 8 feet, behind the wall was a big drop with a steep 30 degree slope. They would climb over the wall drop onto a ledge slide down the slope onto another ledge and drop off on some wooded waste ground. Nobody went there as the land was not used for anything and adults could not get, nor wanted to, go down there. Anyway there was a butterfly bomb hanging in a tree. So if this is 1961/2 in a city and there is a bomb hanging in a tree! I wonder when it was dropped? When did the LW stop bombing Northern cities? The longest it could of been there was 1940 so thats 20 years! He thinks it must have been defective and I would agree. Anyway some how (he forgets how) the police were informed and it was disposed of.


Anyway still looking through my manuals etc and I know ive seen a picture of the SD2 on both the 109 and 110 but need to find the proof to check the year.... This is annoying me now.

I looked into the book "Die deutsche Abwurfmunition bis 1945".

It states that the SD-2 was first used in the operation "Opernball" at the 29. october 1940.
A Rotte Dornier Do 17 of the 8./KG 76 attacked the 17 parked Bristol Blenheim at the airfield Wattisham.

Other small bombs which has been used from the start of the war 1939 were the B-1 E, B-1,3 E, SC-10/SD-10, SC-50 and SD-50.

It is also interesting to read that the production of bombs were behind the use.
At the end of the poland campaign were mostly all 20.000 bombs of the 50kg and 250kg weight used up.

as thor already mentioned, i seriously doubt that the 109 fighterbombers of the 3./ErprGrp210 and II/LG2 and the 110 fighterbombers of 1.&2./ErprGrp210 used SD2 during the summer over britain! Sure not the later fighterbombersquadrons of the JGs.......

During the BoB it was the KGs that used them - for them it would be a nice addition :)

For SD2 on fighterbombers we have to wait for this 'BoM' thing, i hope actually ;)

I had some free time with GIMP and remodelled the cockpit of the C-7.

Attachment 10751
Cliffs of Dover original cockpit.


The revamped cockpit (more to the real deal).:rolleyes:

EDIT: revamped pic deleted, see post #52 for new revamped cockpit!

would be great if all these mistakes in the cockpits (not only of the 110) will be corrected in the next patch.... but you can doubt it unfortunately :/

Since Blacksix stated that
I thought of how I can convince them to fix the cockpit of the Bf-110 and give additionally advice for the later Series.

With this post I want to start a series of posts to show the differences in the cockpit between The Bf 110 B to F series.
For the G-series I have not enough material now, but should mostly the same as the F-series.
I will also go into systems and functions a little bit. I will also tell which sources I used.
Help for any of series is appreciated.

My planned orginazation looks like this:
1. Cockpit (pilot)
2. Cockpit (Radio/gunner)

Differences of the Bf-110 B-F cockpits and the conclusions for the CloD cockpit.

Let's begin by zero or better said with the Bf 110 B.
My sources for today:
The drawings: are from the "Betriebs- und Rüstanleitung Bf-110 B mit Jumo 210 G" Dec/1938
The picture: is from "L.Dv.579/1 Bf 110 B und C Bedienvorschrift für starre und bewegliche Schußwaffe" Dec/1938.
Can also be seen in "Messerschmitt Bf 110 C, D and E" from John Vasco and Fernando Estanislau.
For adding the Fl-number I used the model-code and searched through "Flugzeug-Ausrüstungsgeräte und Anforderungszeichen Mappe 1-3, 10"
If anyone of you have a copy of a " Bf-110 B spare parts catalog", please PM me.


A little description from my side:

16b) Patin-Tochterkompaß L2 PFK/f3
16 = Number of the picture
b = position in the picture
Patin-Tochterkompaß = the Name of the object
L2 = electrical position for the wiring diagram
PFK/f3 = model
FL 23338 = military standart spare part number (makes it easy to identify especially when you have "Flugzeug-Ausrüstungsgeräte und Anforderungszeichen Mappe 1-3, 10")


Cockpit left:
Attachment 10807
3a) Hebelkasten mit Gas-, Laderschalt- und Brandhahnhebeln (lever box for gas(2), gear(1) and fuel-shut-off lever(2))
3b) Bedienhebel für Höhenhilfsruder (elevator trim)
3c) Boschhorn E26 (signal horn)
3d) Unterbau (plate)
3e) Netzausschalter A35 (für Batterie) (battery off switch)
3f) Zündschalter B11/B12 (ignition switch)
3g) Schalter für Kühlklappenverstellung E37/E38(switch for watercooler)
3i) Richtungsgeber K9 LRg5 FL-22569
3h) Kursmotor K4 LKMo FL-22563
3k) Landeklappenanzeigegerät (landing flaps indicator)
3n) Handräder für Pressluft (Fahrwerk-/Landeklappennotbetätigung) (emergency wheels for pressed air to landing gear and landing flaps)
3o) Manometer für Pressluft (gauge for pressed air)
3p) Laderbedienhebel (Laderschalthebel) (engine gear selector)
3q) Bowdenzug



Cockpit right:
Attachment 10808
4a) Handpumpenhebel (fuelpump lever)
4b) Hebel für Kraftstoffventilbatterie (fueltank selector lever)
4c) Bedienhebel für Seitenhilfruder (rudder trim)
4d) Empfindlichkeitsregler für Wendezeiger (sensitivity regulator for turn and bank indicator)
4e) Ausgleichsgefäß für Variometer (adjustment tank for variometer)
4f) Höhenatmer (oxygen breather)
4g) Füllstutzen-Zapfenventil für Höhenatmer (fill vent for oxygen breather)
4h) Vierfachschaltkasten A36 mit selbstschalter für Staurrohrheizung, Gerätebrettlampen, Triebwerksbeleuchtung, Kennlichter und Scheinwerfer
from front to rear 1.) Scheinwerfer (landing light)
2.) Kennlichter (navigational lights)
3.) Gerätebrett-/Motorgondelbeleuchtung (lights for intrument board and engine intrument board)
4.) Staurohrheizung (pitot tube heater)
additionally 5.) Starre waffe P2 Selbstschalter (fuse switch for guns)
6.) Starre Waffe P1 Selbstschalter (fuse switch for guns)
4i) Anlaßschalter (starter switch)
4k) Unterbau (plate)
4m) Druckknopf C19 für 17c) Lampen C20/C21/C22/C23
4n) Hauptschalter (für Kurssteuerung) K7 LSch4ü FL-22559-1 (Main switch for autopilot)
4o) Anlaßpumpe (starter pump)

Cockpit front:
Attachment 10806
16a) Fernkurskreisel K8 LKu4 FL-22561 (directional gyro)
16b) Patin-Tochterkompaß L2 PFK/f3 FL-23338
16c) Kompaß (compass)
16d) Fahrwerksanzeigegerät E23 (landing gear indicator)
16e) Borduhr (clock)
16f) Drehzahlmesser M19/M20 (rev counter)
16g) Verdunkler C11
16h) Reststandsanzeiger links M14 (low fuel indicator left)
16i) Reststandsanzeiger rechts M15 (low fuel indicator right)
16k) Notzugknopf für Rudermaschine (emergency pull button for rudder engine(part of the auto pilot))
16l) Ladedruckmesser (boost gauges)
16m) Vorratsanzeiger für Kraftstoff vorne (front fuel indicator) M21
16n) Vorratsanzeiger für Kraftstoff hinten (rear fuel indicator) M23
16o) Kurszeiger K6 LKz3 (course indicator)
16p) elektr. Anzeigegeräte E19/E20 für Luftschraubenverstellung (elect. Propeller pitch indicator)
16q) Staurohrheizungslampe D3 (pitot heater control lamp)
16r) Wendezeiger (turn and bank indicator)
16s) Variometer (rate of climb meter)
16t) Fein-Grobhöhenmesser (altimeter)
16u) Horizont (artificial horizon)
16v) Fahrtmesser (airspeed indicator)
16w) Kühlwassertemperatur (coolant temp gauge)
16x) Anzeiger für Funknavigation (radio navigation indicator)
16Y) Feststellhebel für Horizont (artificial horizon on-off switch)
Attachment 10805

Engine gauges:
Attachment 10809
17a) Gerätebrett
17c) Lampen C20/C22 bzw. C21/C23 (lamps)
17d) Druckausgleichsventil (pressure valve)
17e) Mech. Anzeigegerät für Luftschraubenverstellung (mech. propeller pitch indicator)
gauges below, front to rear: 1.) Kraftstoff-/Schmierstoffdruckmesser (double gauge Fuel/oil pressure)
2.) Schmierstoff-Ein/Austrittstemperatur (double gauge oil-in/oil-out-temp)
17f) Generator 30V 1200W
17g) Belüftungsrohr für Generator (coolant air tube for generator)
17h) Biegsame Welle zum Verstellmotor

Next will be Cockpit(Pilot) of the Bf 110 C-series.

The cockpit(pilot) of the C-series

Sources for this post:
"Instructions for flying the Messerschmitt 110 A.M. pamphlet 114C"
"Messerschmitt Bf 110 C, D and E" from John Vasco and Fernando Estanislau

Let's begin with a nice picture from the "A.M. Pamphlet 114C" which shows most probably a C-5(missing cannon round indicator).
The pic can also be found in Kenneth A. Merrick's book "german aircraft interiors"/"deutsche Flugzeug-Cockpits"(book is also translated into german).
If it would be a D-series you would see the 2 additional lamps over the horizon.
And since it has so nice numbers for most of the gauges/switches I will only add the FL-#.

Attachment 10818

1 FL-32315-2
6 FL-32823-2
9 9-9502 B
12 FL-20342-2
13 FL-20286-3
14 FL-20550
17 FL-32526
20 FL-29723
30 FL-23300
31 FL-22320
32 FL-23338
33 ZVK-FF
34 SSK 404/2
36 FL-22402
37 FL-22382 in this C-5 (FL-22381-10 in other C-Series? see cockpit of C-1/B)
38 most probalby FL-22426 with the on-off switch 39
40 FL-22231
41 FL-23233
43 FL-22478
The little button [Spkf 1] left to the Revi holder is for bord to bord radio.

Here a little close up of the same pic in better quality.

Attachment 10819

Have a look at the rev counter (36 as the last number) and the boost gauge plate( d=1,15 ata / |=1,2 ata(30 min.)/ |=1,3 ata(5 min.) for 87 octane fuel)

Now 3 pictures of C-1/B 2N+GN WNr. 2831 build at MIAG(Mühlenbau und Industrie AG) in 1939 and downed by Swiss Bf-109 E's on 8 June 1940.
The interesting part are the 2 white lamps above the horizon, which shouldn'd be in the C-Series.

Attachment 10820
Attachment 10821
Look at which angle the landing flap indicator is still readable. Also no button box on the left side.
Attachment 10822

The next post will continue with the C-series cockpit(pilot) and show some manual drawings.
If there are questions I will try to answer them.

Sources for today:
"vorläufige Betriebs- und Rüstanleitung Bf 110 C" - 1. June 1939 (first 4 drawings)
"Betriebsanleitung Bf 110 C mit Anhang Bf 110 D-0" - Februar 1940 (last drawing)

The first 4 drawings show the cockpit layout for june 1939.
You see the Fernkurskreisel LKu4 still in there, like in the B-series.

Left side
Attachment 10838
3a) Hebelkasten
3b) Gashebel (gas lever)
3c) Handpumpenhebel (hand pump lever)
3d) Brandhahnhebel (fuel-shut-off/pump lever)
3e) Ölkühlerklappenhebel (oil radiator lever)
3f) Verstellvorrichtung Höhenhilfsruder (elevator trim)
3g) Stoßstange
3h) Netzausschalter A28
3i) Handräder für Preßluftsperrventile (emergency vents for gear and flaps)
3k) Druckknopfschalter für Fahrwerk (landing gear buttons)
3m) Druckknopfschalter für Landeklappen (landing flaps button)
3n) Druckmesser (pressure gauge)
3o) Zündschalter B7/B8
3p) Boschhorn E31
3q) Richtungsgeber K2 LRg5
3r) Landeklappen-Anzeigegerät (landing gear indicator)
3s) Bowdenzug
3t) Verstellschalter E17/E18 für Propellerverstellung (prop pitch switch)

Cockpit panel
Attachment 10837
16a) Fernkurskreisel K3 LKu4
16b) Patin-Tochterkompaß L1 PfK/f3
16c) Wendezeiger
16d) position for ZVK-FF
16e) Druckmesser Pressluft
16f) Fahrwerksanzeigegerät E19
16g) Schalter E20/E22 für Kühlerklappenverstellung
16h) Drehzahlmesser M18/M19
16i) Kühlstofftemperatur-Messgerät M9
16k) Kühlstofftemperatur-Messgerät M17
16m) Reststandsanzeigegeräte M11,M12,M14,M15
16n) Umschalter M16 für Kraftstoffvorratsanzeiger
16o) Kraftstoffvorratsanzeiger M13
16p) Staurohr-Schauzeichen D3
16q) Kurszeiger K4 LKz3
16r) Notzugknopf
16s) Verstellschalter E17/E18 für Propellerverstellung
16t) elektrische Anzeigegeräte E22/E23 für Propellerverstellung
above d) SSK 404/2 and Wahlschalter (main control panel for MGs and switch for 2MG-4MG)
above q) Anzeiger für Funknavigation AFN1


Right side
Attachment 10839
17a) Bedienhebel Seitenhilfsruder (rudder trim)
17b) Höhenatmer (oxygen breather)
17c) Vierfachschaltkasten A36 mit selbstschalter für Staurrohrheizung, Gerätebrettlampen, Triebwerksbeleuchtung, Kennlichter und Scheinwerfer
Switch box
from front to rear 1.) Scheinwerfer (landing light)
2.) Kennlichter (navigational lights)
3.) Gerätebrett-/Motorgondelbeleuchtung (lights for intrument board and engine intrument board)
4.) Staurohrheizung (pitot tube heater)
additionally 5.) Starre waffe P2 Selbstschalter (fuse switch for guns)
6.) Starre Waffe P1 Selbstschalter (fuse switch for guns)
17d) Empfindlichkeitsregler für Wendehorizont
17e) Gerätebank
17f) Verdunkler C16
17g) Schalter M25 für Kraftstoff-Umpumpanlage
17h) Hauptschalter K5 LSch4ü für Kurssteuerung/Patinkompaßanlage (main switch for auto course)
17i) Umschaltplatte
17k) Griffe für Kerzenabbrennung (ignitor cleaning handle)
17m) Füllstutzen-Zapfenventil (Höhenatmer)
17n) Fernbedienknopf für Anlaßtrennschalter A36
17o) Anlaßpumpe
17p) Schalthahn ( für Verneblerleitung? )
17q) Anlaßschalter B9
17r) Anlaßschalter B10

Engine panel
Attachment 10840
11a) mechanische Anzeigevorrichtung (Fahrwerk) (mechanical indicator for landing gear / only early C-1 aircraft)
11b) Bowdenzug
11c) Gerätetafel
11d) Steckdose C7/Stecker C6
11e) Gerätelampe C2
11f) Gerätelampe C3
11g) Abzweigdose C4
11h) Gerätetafel
11i) Halterung für Gerätetafel
11k) mechanisches Anzeigegerät für Propellerverstellung (mechanical prop pitch indicator)
gauges below, front to rear: 1.) Kraftstoff-/Schmierstoffdruckmesser (double gauge Fuel/oil pressure)
2.) Schmierstoff-Ein/Austrittstemperatur (double gauge oil-in/oil-out-temp, 2 pointer)

And now the cockpit panel layout of "Betriebsanleitung Bf 110 C mit Anhang Bf 110 D-0" Februar 1940
Teil 9 - Ausrüstung (part 9 - equipment), side 9-01.
Attachment 10841
See the new Kursgeber (course selector) below the Patin-Tochterkompaß (daughter compass).
This course selector stayed until the E-series.

The MG and gun counter aren't part of this manual.
There are to find in "Bf 110 B und C Bedienvorschrift für die starre und bewegliche Schußwaffe, L.Dv. 579/1".

Since the C and D series were build at the same time let us have a look at the cockpit of the D-series.

My sources for today:
"Report-No. 260-28 Analysis of the Messerschmitt Me-110 Airplane" from Vultee Aircraft Inc.
"Life" Magazine from 21. April 1941 Page 34/35
"Messerschmitt Bf 110 C, D and E" from John Vasco and Fernando Estanislau
"Beschreibung und Einbau der Zusatzanlagen für das Flugzeugmuster Bf 110 D L.Dv.T2413/1(Entwurf) / (Nachtrag 1)" from November 1940

The first 3 pictures are from the Bf-110 D-0/B W.Nr.3341 S9+CK build in Juli 1940 and shot down on 15. August 1940.
Just look at the Revi holder with the "Schwenkplatte SP 1A" for the Revi C12/D which should also be in every C-7.

Attachment 10896
Attachment 10897
Attachment 10898

The only 39 new build C-7 were produced from Juli 1940 to September 1940 (see "Messerschmitt Bf 110, Me 210, Me 410" from Heinz Mankau/Peter Petrick)
So we have a good look at the same equipment in the instrument panel.
Here is a drawing out of the manual which shows the instrument panel of a C-series with the additional 2 lamps for the D-Series.
Attachment 10899

In my next post I will show what we have in "Cliffs of Dover" as a cockpit for the C-7.