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JumpingHubert 04-15-2011 06:14 PM

blue color of atmosphere isn´t "simulated" well in cod. Thats all. Without that you have the colors of the things you have when you are 1 meter in front of them. Far distances means: lots of blue atmosphere.

41Sqn_Stormcrow 04-15-2011 06:16 PM

Go out and look if the world around you is greyish and less saturated. If you go with open eyes you will see that the colours in CoD are quite spot on. Much more spot on than any other flight sim or flight game out there.

Only in memory your mind makes these colours seem less saturated but your brain is producing an illusion. That's why you actually believe that less saturated colours were more realistic while they are not.

And don't look at movies: most of them use colour filters and are therefore fake. If you want de saturated images tweak your screen settings and allow the rest of us play with realistic colours.

ChrisDNT 04-15-2011 06:36 PM

Why is it so hard to some fanboys to accept the fact that gamma and color sliders would please everybody ?
The guys liking the pastel colors could so keep the pastel colors.
The guys not liking the pastel colors could also change them to their taste.
Choice ability is always good.

Wolf_Rider 04-15-2011 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JumpingHubert (Post 264112)
blue color of atmosphere isn´t "simulated" well in cod. Thats all. Without that you have the colors of the things you have when you are 1 meter in front of them. Far distances means: lots of blue atmosphere.

no, not necessarily






Quote:

Originally Posted by 41Sqn_Stormcrow (Post 264117)
Go out and look if the world around you is greyish and less saturated. If you go with open eyes you will see that the colours in CoD are quite spot on. Much more spot on than any other flight sim or flight game out there.

Only in memory your mind makes these colours seem less saturated but your brain is producing an illusion. That's why you actually believe that less saturated colours were more realistic while they are not.

And don't look at movies: most of them use colour filters and are therefore fake. If you want de saturated images tweak your screen settings and allow the rest of us play with realistic colours.




http://www.picturescolourlibrary.co....go/2305686.jpg


where are the bright green trees?

41Sqn_Stormcrow 04-15-2011 06:52 PM

But darker trees you won't get with desaturated colours. What you will get is a desaturated picture of just everything. Even the fire fighter cars ...

For me the trees as they are look like this:

http://www.jesslaccetti.co.uk/upload...est-745061.jpg

Or like:

http://www.luftaufnahmen.com/images/insel_gr.jpg

Wolf_Rider 04-15-2011 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 41Sqn_Stormcrow (Post 264174)
But darker trees you won't get with desaturated colours. What you will get is a desaturated picture of just everything. Even the fire fighter cars ...

For me the trees as they are look like this:

*photo edited out*

Or like:

http://www.luftaufnahmen.com/images/insel_gr.jpg

I agree with the (probable) misuse of the word "saturated" colours and setting a slider would affect the entire sim... planes and all

but with your lower shot, I still don't see bright green trees :?:
perhaps the difference between film media and digital media done with a poor gammut?


dover

http://www.ulsterbustours.com/overvi...iew_thumb.jpeg


http://www.webbaviation.co.uk/galler...ar-db50916.jpg


http://www.millieduncan.co.uk/images...s-of-dover.jpg

41Sqn_Stormcrow 04-15-2011 07:09 PM

I agree and I don't. I think it all depends on season, tree species, lighting and atmosphere how you see the trees.

I remember very well that when the first screeshots of CoD came out my first reaction was: But no, these colours are far too saturated! This looks like plastic. The next time I took the plane I payed special attention to the colours and had to admit to myself that they are not bad in the end.

P.S. On the lower image I don't know about filters but that you can apply to any image that you see on the net - including yours. What I see is that the tone of very many of the trees is overall similar to that of the gras and not or not considerably darker. A few others are darker, others are brighter.

And you may post as many pictures as you want I always can put forward that the optics in this picture are wrong (just as you did wrt my lower picture). Then again I have to remember the sight I had during my plane flight. Do the same and judge.

Wolf_Rider 04-15-2011 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 41Sqn_Stormcrow (Post 264202)
I agree and I don't. I think it all depends on season, tree species, lighting and atmosphere how you see the trees.

I remember very well that when the first screeshots of CoD came out my first reaction was: But no, these colours are far too saturated! This looks like plastic. The next time I took the plane I payed special attention to the colours and had to admit to myself that they are not bad in the end.

P.S. On the lower image I don't know about filters but that you can apply to any image that you see on the net - including yours. What I see is that the tone of very many of the trees is overall similar to that of the gras and not or not considerably darker. A few others are darker, others are brighter.

And you may post as many pictures as you want I always can put forward that the optics in this picture are wrong (just as you did wrt my lower picture). Then again I have to remember the sight I had during my plane flight. Do the same and judge.

You misunderstood... I meant there is a difference in looking at a 35mm film shot and a digital shot which has been done using a poor gammut... this was not in relation to your presented image

yes, you could say what you will about filters and optics and I could say exactly the same to you and yours... but where is that going to get us?

if you think the bright green trees are accurate, that's for you... but there is image after image that will disagree with you and if you can't discern the difference between the ground and the trees in the shots, then you have something which needs sorting... unfortunately, defective colour vision can't be

bongodriver 04-15-2011 07:29 PM

Oh dear.................I 'live' in Dover, I'm a pilot and I've flown above, level with and below the cliffs of Dover, I have eyes (genuine Mk1) there is nothing I find offensive about the in game colours, this is the second thread on this subject and it's still going nowhere, I just hope the devs aren't paying any attention to this, god only knows what we might get in another patch when they have relevant issues to deal with, we should just wait until the SDK's are out and I've already said it....we can have whatever colour of grass we want then.

SEE 04-15-2011 07:43 PM

The terrain/buildings colour renditioning isn't quite right for me ( I live in rural Norfolk). If you have a Nvidea card (may also be available in CCC not sure) you can adjust the colour balance and saturation by checking the option to allow Nvidea and not the application control of colour . I lowered digital vibrance, gamma, increased brightness, etc and the in game rendering now suits me perfectly and much happier with it. I can also see enemy ac far more clearly at longer distances. I have to reset it back to default for IL1946 but problem solved.

Take a snapshot over terrain/buildings, open it up to full size and then make adjustments from your GFX user interface to change the snapshots image colour rendering to suit your preferences.


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