12 aircraft is plenty enough...after 10 years of IL2, using the 4.10 patch i rarely fly more than the Bf109, Bf110, Spit, Hurri or Ju87...so what's on offer here is perfect for me.

Can't flippin' wait :-P

I expected better from you Galway.

Congratulate NG for crippling an entire theatre that is very much liked by a large number of players, not all of whom are from the United States?

How can this be helpful to "good flight simming"?

Your hatred of the United States blinds you to the fact that what NG did was set a precedent that could damage all combat simulation, flight or otherwise.

Calm down ElAurens, I'm pretty certain he was just jokingly expressing his appreciation for the underrepresented subject matter of the original game. Jokes aside, though, I agree with your sentiment about NG 100%, they're not helping their own reputation, the future of flight simming, or promoting any kind of education about the important role of their previous ventures in the Second World War. It's a lose-lose situation, all for a short-term buck.

Actually I was just trying to stir up the original poster who seemed to be complaining about a lack of American Planes in a Battle of Britain simulation were no such planes took part :D

The NG situation was a total farce and the fact that many completed or almost completed US late war aircraft and even some naval ships never made it into the game because of idiotic legal extortion by NG (they basically had no legitimate case but threatened to delay the release of Pacific Fighters with lengthy court action unless they got their way) was quite reprehensible.

So in essence, pretty much standard business practise for NG. ;)

Thanks Galway.

It's so hard to judge true intent here sometimes.

Such is the nature of text only communication.

Cheers.

No complaints here.

Actually, technically speaking, Martlet MK I's were patrolling the coast of Scotland by August 1940. Granted, they only had the one stage super charger, but if I recall correctly, they were the first American made aircraft to down an Axis aircraft during the war.

In fact, the whole USN/RN dual production thing was why Grumman went to a six gun wing in the first place. The RN wanted an 8-gun wing, the USN wanted 0.50 cal minimum, and the Wildcat just wasn't going to be able to list an 8x0.50 cal armament, so they split the difference, and gave the Brits two guns short, and the USN 14 seconds less fire time. Nobody liked that change.

On the other hand, by the time of the Hellcat, 6x0.50 was quite a decent set of guns, when it had enough ammo for the set.

It was probably the Hawk 75 in France.

"On 8 October 1939, over Jutland, a Lockheed Hudson became the first RAF aircraft to shoot down a German aircraft"
so far for the RAF ;)

and in total
" 8 September 1939, Hawk 75 from Groupe de Chasse II/4 were credited with shooting down two Luftwaffe Messerschmitt Bf 109Es, the first Allied air victory of World War II on the Western front."

the Martlet was "just" the first US build FIGHTER in UK service that shoot down an enemy...and that was december 1940