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Royraiden 02-14-2011 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by T}{OR (Post 223942)
Isn't that the main logic behind tracers?




Hopefully not by a modder.

I just watched several videos of tracers shot at night and during the day.At night they do look almost exactly as the videos we have seen already from the game.But during the day they look shorter and obviously not so bright.But I havent seen a white tracer, most are orange.Maybe during the war they were white??I really dont know.

Erkki 02-14-2011 12:18 PM

A camera's shutter speed is from 1/100 up to 1/2500-3000 in daylight. Animations start working for a human eye after 1/25.

edit: afaik the tracers appear white in guncams(colour ones...) because especially old films are very sensitive to IR light. The tracers simply burn through.

You can find some US kamikaze-footage taken in the dawn/sunset and even night, you can see the full spectrum of the tracers in them. I thought both sides used mainly red, like in il2, for rifle cal rounds.

Royraiden 02-14-2011 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Erkki (Post 223947)
A camera's shutter speed is from 1/100 up to 1/2500-3000 in daylight. Animations start working for a human eye after 1/25.

Shame on me!!!Ok thats through a camera.The human eye works in a similar way,during the day the tracers should appear shorter.

Erkki 02-14-2011 12:26 PM

I dont think the "shutter speed" improves. :D But pupil lets in more light.

But yeah, in dark enough all light "burns in" your eye for some time... But it didnt happen, to me, with the tracers. Wasnt all pitch black though, but the perfectly clear star sky(edit, all 3 times actually). The tracers are bright but not that bright, and they're gone quick anyways.

Royraiden 02-14-2011 12:31 PM

The aperture on a lens mimics the human pupil.The bigger it gets, the more light comes in.Also from the videos I saw,the tracers look larger when you look at them closer to a perpendicular angle,so being on a parallel angle with the tracers should result in them looking even shorter.Anyways we really dont know if those are the final tracers.We should wait and see.

Erkki 02-14-2011 12:35 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5slCTLrFHI

1:50 onwards, then later when the B6N approaches very low. With the longer shutter speed and dark background the tracers finally start to have some colour a human eye would see... And they're red star wars lasers! :grin:

Royraiden 02-14-2011 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Erkki (Post 223952)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5slCTLrFHI

1:50 onwards, then later when the B6N approaches very low. With the longer shutter speed and dark background the tracers finally start to have some colour a human eye would see... And they're red star wars lasers! :grin:

Nice footage.I have to admit that most of those look white,some orange,and the rest obviously red.But werent those higher caliber than the machine guns used on airplanes?

Itkovian 02-14-2011 01:00 PM

Well, the nice bit about that video is it does show the smoke trails these tracers left, which is one of the visual elements I rather like (for example, BoB2 does those pretty well).

Itkovian

Erkki 02-14-2011 01:09 PM

I think they're mainly 20mm Oerlikons.

ChrisDNT 02-14-2011 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by The Kraken (Post 223923)


Yep, Kraken, exactly like this, what I see here looks perfect to me.


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