Na thats what a multi-button mouse is for. 2 thumb buttons and your good to go. Infact, its damn easy to crouch & fire on the move with it set to a mouse side button. Much easier than a pad and having to click the stick in. Seriously though the people you watched must be totaly crap, because CSS is a piece of p*ss to play.

You should see the amount of chaos that BF2/2142 brings, in that game a pad user would be cut down in a heartbeat. Now those games seperates the men from the boys. Mind you though a pad is handy for flying in BF2/2142, though I'll take my flight stick over a pad anyday in that respect.

Nah The button layout isn't hard for a controller it is faster then a keyboard.
You can make whats called shift buttons. there are 16 buttons on a controller to start with make one or 2 of those a shift button and you double or triple the buttons. Thats why my 2 old bf2 clan guys used it. They could jump ,dive ,toss a frag all there frags and rip a clip and reload before they hit the ground in prone. In all honesty it left the keyboard in the dust. Plus that Pinnacle profiler software lets you program multiple button combinations on single button presses. Which grant it you can do that stuff with a keyboard too. Still with the controller you never have to take you eyes off the screen and it was amazing to see what these guy could do on Bf2 pc. They would just slaughter people.

Except with sniping. They couldn't hang with the M&K on that. We had guys in the clan that where just as good as them in aiming with the M&K but they couldn't do 44 button combinations as fast as those 2 guys could do on the 360 controller.
You would just have to see it to believe it. They were on equal footing with the run and gun aiming and way better using the shift system and having like 40 button commands on one 360 controller. The only think they couldn't do was snipe as well as a M&k guy.

Shadowrun is cheap, if any of you M&K guys think you have that much of a advantage, go buy it and take on some 360 players. You'll find out just like I did,, there are some kids with a 360 controller that will give you a run for your money any day.
Desode

Ive got shadowrun for PC. Ive not played it in a long time but it was bloody easy to be a "ninja" player with the k/b mouse. I could jump/'port sideways/glide/'port down/glide/'port forward (or any combination thereof) and then CHOP EM UP! with the samuria sword. It was hilarious to see people try and follow me, and I even had players scream "HAX!" at me when I did that kind of thing. Its the reason I stopped playing because it was just to damn easy to win.

Oh and those "shift buttons" you mention are Macros, and are actually banned under the games TOS. If you went on a well admin'ed server and started doing that stuff, you would be kicked out.

No its not, pinnicle profiler is endorsed by EA itself.
A shift button is different then a macro which is A BCGHJ timed under one button press. A admin may give you heck over that, but not a shift button.
You would need 3 hands to do what I have seen done with two hands on a controller. I swear Lexandro I was you and your opinion before I played with these two Bf2 Pc players. They were amazing with a controller and thats why they were 4th and 8th on the leaderboard. They used them in tourneys for MLG. They were just that good with a controller.


Its a shame FASA went under befroe they could support Shadowrun.
Desode

I stopped playing because (and this is going to sound terrible) I was just to awesome. Seriously, on one map I could port through walls up/down/left/right and glide and I was pretty much untouchable. The constant bitching by the kiddies in LIVE while I played put me off.

I did'nt say my neighbor was good. :grin: And screw you for being able to play BF2. :-P If I was'nt useing my income taxes to get a new vehicle I would get a PS3. Still too expensive for me. :evil:

Edit:By BF2, I assume you mean BF:BC2

Probably not with talk of leaderboards, forgive my ignorants. HA!

Riceball do what I did , save up a $100 over the course of a year, and then play the stock market. Thats how I got my hobbie toys . Do your research and don't get greedy , get in and out.

Plus there is a place called E-rewards.com You can do surveys for Gamestop/Eb games gift cards. I did that to get my ps3.
Desode

Nice. Did you mean $100 a month?

I may just pre-pay $50-$100 per month and get one that way. But the market has me intrigued, even in these times. Maybe I'll hit you up for some tips.

Done and done:)

When my X52 broke I used a 360 gamepad (with a keyboard for functions not essential for fighting) for a while in 1946, online and offline, and while I can't vouch for the competence of my opponents;) I did get a fair number of kills online and a nearly 2:1 Kill/Death ratio.

Off topic somewhat - I've tried that. Every one released to date has to emulate the gamepad with the mouse - so the end result is something hardly accurate at all compared to a mouse running on a PC.

Small movements are especially messed up - real hard to emulate small gamepad analogue movements on a mouse. So you get a bunch of jumping around the "center" of what you are trying to actually hit.

Which brings up another thing - I certainly hope mouse support (if added) in the ps3 BOP patch is not an emulation of a gamepad stick. Hopefully it is full mouse support.