Naaaah im fine :)

Intel Core i5 3470 processor/3.2 GHz
NVIDIA GeForce GTX670
8 GB RAM
SSD HD

Dont think i need to upgrade anything m8 but tx for your concern ;) J/K

You are missing out then and should give it another look :)

lets see shall we.... you pay a premium for a game like Cliffs of Dover and expect a game to be finished.... but no - lets just not bother trying to fix our mess and make another mess and charge a premium... no thank you... this one did it for me. At least let the professionals and by that i mean the users who can programme the game properly have a bash if you cant be bothered... just my pennies worth!!! humpfff

Extremly good news, as CloD is totally unplayable.

People here just need a properly working WWII flight sim to feel happy.

???????

Where have you been hiding?

http://theairtacticalassaultgroup.co...ead.php?t=3777
and
http://theairtacticalassaultgroup.co...ead.php?t=4347

Regularly 80-90 people on line. Much improved. Give it another try.

No thanks, enough CloD for us.

We are hardly involved in BoS now.

..have fun then.....

in a couple of years time:rolleyes:

One can lead a horse to a trough, but you cannot make it drink.

Proven once again.

I beg to differ...many of us have stuck with the sim & find it very engaging & in its way a very beautiful fully playable sim esp with ATAG mods.


http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...psde87955a.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...ps5cfee88c.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...ps903c9b63.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...psfd810a3c.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...pse4a74232.jpg

@ =KAG=Bersrk...I fly the original released game and it is fully playable. A very strong PC is needed for it and that was always the problem with the game, for most folks including me. The modded game is trying to bring back all that was cut away in the first place. They have a ways to go with that chore of love, but it will always be better than the BOS, I'm pretty sure.

Totally agree, the initial release of COD, even with the initial bugs was very playable on my highly optimized system. Most people with an average computer would have had no love for the unfinished COD code, and few seen its potential. Team Fusion is just touching the surface of COD codes capabilities and is better in many ways than the initial BOS code. That said I have no doubt that the BOS code could be improved before the release and many more improvements made if the BOS code is successful enough to allow further development of theaters. It will be interesting to see how both sims evolve. Hopefully well for the combat flight sim communities. I know its business, but I still have considerable animosity for Jason/Loft's part in pulling the rug from underneath Luthier and COD's code, when they were so vulnerable and so close to being successful.

I wonder if they are still friends, that would say a lot about that situation. :)...yep I hope BOS does well too, we need developers

Yep :)
Intel core I7 950 @ 3.8
Asus PT6 Motherboard
6 gigs OCZ DDR3 1600
Asus GTX580 Direct CU II
60gigSSD with only Windows7 64bit, Hotas Peripherals, and COD running on it
500gig HD Dual Boot
Samsung 32"LG 120hz
MSFF2 Joystick
Cougar Throttle
Saitek Pro Rudder pedals
Voice Activation Controls
Track IR 5 ProClip

And I have:
Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 @2,33
Asrock G41M Mainboard
4 Gb Hynix DDR3
Hitachi HDD 1Gb + Seagate 250Gb HDD
Acer 17'' (3:4)
CH Fighter Stick
X52 Throttle
VKB rudder pedals :)

Enough for RoF, but far not enough for that crappy CloD.

VKB rudder pedals are Russian made? Can you send me the link to their site?
When Stalingrad had its name changed to Volgograd the city officials got a telegraph saying: new name is accepted. Josif Vissarionovitch Volga:grin:

...
 

Hi Bersrk!;)

Larry69

http://flightsimcontrols.com/

Thank you SlipBall!!

Besrk,

your main rig is very very similar to mine except that your GPU is better and you don't give us the resolution you are running or your in-game settings. Mine are 1680 x 1050 and hammering 60fps (because of V-synch on) in flight, min 40 in dense combat and never below 30 around concentrated objects, usually higher. My settings are generally High with a few ground shadows/grass/building settings turned down because they are a big drain and unnecessary in a combat sim even if I were doing combat at 200 feet over London (and who needs to see the doorknobs anyway?).

If your rig won't run CoD you are probably demanding too high settings. You may want the max settings and I believe there are still some issues with CoD graphics but it is completely playable if you lower your sights to just damn good graphics instead of the ultimate.

On the other hand, if for various reasons you have placed yourself in the 'I Hate CoD' camp or are a fervent pro-777/anti-1C simmer then I guess nothing will persuade you to try it again but I genuinely believe it's your loss.

COD's code certainly wasn't crappy, in fact its very good, it was just unfinished, and unoptimized. Team Fusion's work is proving that in spades. Its just unfortunate that the code took sooooo long to develop, and was forced out the door before it was ready. Understandably the investors ran out of patience.

I highly doubt their still friends. Hopefully karma will even things out.

Is there anything confirmed about that? Was Jason just standing there to fill the gap or did he punch Luthier off the cliff?

These business decisions are always complicated and I would imagine it was little of both.

Any idea why I haven't been able to access the new IL2 forum for the last 4 days?

Just checked, got right in.

yep

il-2:BoS supposedly "leaked" video:

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8Xs...MGM/edit?pli=1

Looks nice, well according to il-2 "II" proposal.

Sokol1

The exterior model looks very good huh?

Nice to see the pilot model looking around, very cool :-)

To be honest it has an instant "Rise of Flight" and "IL-2 1946" feel about it. Maybe it's because it was filmed using Fraps but it plays at 720HD and the textures seem very 'flat' and lacking detail. The cockpit detail is especially poor. As I said this may be due to Fraps but I wonder if 777/1C would release a preview that wasn't at its best.

In-game screenshots would be interesting.


My apologies I just found this:
http://forum.il2sturmovik.net/topic/...diary-part-ix/
but it still doesn't seem to be on the same level as the CoD cockpits.

I've always had the impression that this team would dial things back a bit to make sure everything works at release. I agree the pit is a little less detailed, but I must add that the sense of height, space, and cold is spot on, and the pit doesn't really lack anything when working with those other qualities. The vid strikes me as having well-balanced parts--well, sensory-wise of course.

There's something right about how it wanders in the air a bit, and it's nice to see the proper "leaning forward" posture of the pilot figure.

Meh. Until I see some real, tangiable videos posted by the BoS-team, I won't bother with even getting slightly excited.

No one should expect the new sim to viral Clod...it was proven that most people are unwilling to do a serious and necessary upgrade. Clod at release demanded a strong rig and that was to be expected. The mistake was that 1C should have been honest and stated a realistic system requirement on the box.

As things turned out I have to agree but I don't think 1C expected it to go that way. I understand why 1C tried to build something that would be capable of running on a 2GHz DX9 rig as well as on PC specs still not achievable even now but it seems you can only stretch a piece of elastic so far before it breaks. Oleg always said it would take a rig capable of running IL-2 1946 "very well" just to run CoD on low settings but in the event they were unable to do that.

Exactly.

But my friend was running CloD with cheap AMD x2 and 9600gt 512MB.
On low 1300 resolution and low to mid settings, he had stops because of low VRAM but it was playable.
Other one had gts250 1GB (9800gt renamed) and had good experience.
Those cards were 3 generations old when CloD came out.
Some pilots were also discouraged by the posts of some fans of another sim,
like "this is terrible, it want run on my gtx580" so they didn't upgrade.

Well, 777/1c never promised equal or surpass CloD cockpits level/interation, its initial proposal is just a new version of IL-2 (2001 - not 1946), with graphics, FM and DM updated.

We need create realistic expectations according to these proposals to avoid a new "Clod drama". :)

Sokol1

As much animosity as I have toward the BOS developers for their part in COD's demise I would never underestimate their capabilities. I think their 109 cockpit is very good, and would expect them to be able to tweak, add, improve, rewrite the ROF game engine to make a decent combat flight sim, just as Team Fusion is tweaking, adding, improving, rewriting the COD game engine. Both will have their problems, but that's just part of the evolution of the genre.

Bfs
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1j0LFPNVko

:-P:-P:-P

Bf109f4
 

http://forum.il2sturmovik.net/index....&attach_id=349

http://forum.il2sturmovik.net/index....&attach_id=350

8-)

That looks pretty dull when compared with original cockpits.


http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/o...2.jpg~original
http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/o...1.jpg~original
http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/o...9.jpg~original

olegg , 777, c1 :
 

No olegg there to take your money... he has been out of busines for long now...

yet there is an (comparing weathering) uncanny similarity between both 'pits

where did you get that from ? (asking, not being critical)

from all that i have seen RoF's BS it simply going to be the old RoF using a new map, and a few new ww2 planes added. they will try and expand their RoF dx9 engine with a few visual tricks, but essentially their gfx engine is obsolete before they even start (which is particularly problematic in its limitations to produce complex flight models).

for 777 there is no use or access to any of the old il2 FM, DM, graphics, object models etc

it will only "look like il2" in that it will be located in a russian scenery and has some soviet ww2 era aircraft, it has nothing else in common afaik

I really think they are going a little further than that... afaik they raise the polygone-count, so it won`t just be a re-painted RoF... Sure the basic are the same, but...

I am really critical because I hated to see the CloD-Engine being canned, but what we saw from BoS so far at least raises some hope.

Time will tell... and until then we have Team Fusion who saves CloD!

It's not time to create a dedicate forum to il2:Bos (at last avoid some "ego" wars :) )?

Online flight:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwrPU-xW2-8&

Sokol1

Makes me sick.

We have not seen much at all of this sim beyond a few screenshots and a couple of videos, beyond that, we have developer posts on the BoS forum that tackle questions but all in all, NONE of us has really seen this sim in action.

With that being said, the more posts the dev's make about their work on the project, the more it seems that it actually wont be a WWII reskin of ROF.

You seem all too eager to put your fingers in your ears and cover your eyes and pretend (no matter the proof otherwise) that your opinion of this sim is going to be fact, I don't know why you harbor such seething anger against it but you do.

I suppose now is the part where someone reports me to the moderators for advertising a 777 product but nobody here would do that...right?:rolleyes:

You need to chill a bit Mike...you seem too close to the project, makes you overly sensitive :)

Why Osprey?

This was stated by dev's in il2:BoS in many topics, but this current one resume well:

Notice, they refer to original il-2, not to il-2 CloD - at any time they promised exceed CloD level.

Another thing important to notice, in any time they don't promised that il-2:BoS will have the SAME "coop" style of il-2 (that's mean launch by Hyperlobby, chat, statistics, etc, blablabla...).

(IMO) It's a bad move - from "UBIZ00 old crow" perspective - they use the "Il-2 Sturmovik" brand, better if some "777/1c World War II: Battle of Stalingrad" or something... [/B]but this brand (il2) sold in Russian market, and the guys there don't mind so much about "coop's", just only dogfight's, it's like a (virtual) "national sport". :)

PS- "photorealistic" dont mean use Satelite map images, but something like "Oleg's photorealistic". :)

Sokol1

"Less is more".

I know, I mean, I just get bummed out because a few specific users on this forum make it a point to keep fires burning for no reason other than to moan about something non-stop.

I mean, I get excited when I hear about new flight simulators coming to the market, we don't have a lot of developers left that are willing to tackle the genre so the thought of actually getting a new WWII sim is pretty amazing (considering the lukewarm response that the general public had to CloD), I would rather stay positive about BoS until it really proves itself to be less than what it is saying it is going to be.

So far, the few angry types on this forum have made it a point to keep staying as upset as possible for as long as possible and in the process have failed to see the actual progress that is being made, personally, I don't really understand what it gets them in the end, attention perhaps?

It is funny, if you bring up any other flight sim on this forum (other than to complain about it) you get called a shill but those same folks that are quick to accuse can't stop posting how bad other sims are.

I know I take this stuff more personally that I really should, I mean, I love flight simulation as a genre and it breaks my heart to see such petty attitudes about something that nobody here as even so much as seen in anything but a very early alpha state.

I suppose it is just the internet, that is how it is.

The fires of resentment will be burning for as long as people can play 'Cliffs Of Dover' and see what could have been. In time it will fade, but people have had a game/series they play and like and followed for years discontinued and it's sequel/s denied them. It's human nature that they'll complain about it and ignorance to pretend or expect otherwise.

The 'moaning' you're referring to though, in reaction to news about other games, pales to nothing when compared to the amount of relentless moaning undertaken on these forums in the past by those who did nothing but continuously and maliciously put 'Cliffs Of Dover' down as it struggled to survive. While some here just played the game and made the most of it and accentuated the positives while waiting for more powerful hardware to be released and for the devs to fix and add features, others took it upon themselves to obsessively complain and niggle and badmouth the game at every possible opportunity. This place was rife with exactly the kind of trolling/moaning you're referring to, only it was anti 'Cliffs Of Dover' (on 'Cliffs Of Dovers' own forums no less) and amplified to an insane degree. So in that context it's the height of hypocrisy to complain now about people not being receptive to news about 777 Studio's efforts. And in any case, the moderators are doing a good job now at keeping things from getting out of hand, so, if I were you I'd probably just take my own advice and let it go, or risk coming across like a troll myself.

As for the excitement of another flight simulator coming to market and there not being a lot of developers willing to tackle the genre, well I imagine some people were equally excited about the prospect of Maddox Games own BOM coming out as a sequel to 'Cliffs Of Dover'. And while one developer stepped into the ring, another bowed out, so what does that add up to?

In my opinion, I don't think there's anyone here who wouldn't have welcomed what Ilya himself at one point called 'a bit of friendly competition', via 777's separate development of another WW2 combat flight sim. But that's not how it's worked out, and I think it would be easier to be more receptive to what 777 Studios are trying to do with BOM if they hadn't helped wipe out Maddox Games own efforts in the process.

I'm hoping 777's game turns out alright, but I followed closely for years the development of 'Battle Of Britain/Storm Of War/Cliffs Of Dover' and won't be doing that again for any game/sim. So I myself don't have a problem with people posting news about 777's BOM here, as that's the only way I'll know about it. But I see no point in repeatedly attacking or defending it. Just tell/show us what it actually is, as those facts come to light, and let us make up our own minds about it. Anything more than that, pro or anti, is trolling or flame-baiting and deserves moderation imo.

+1

I have a lot of respect for the abilities of 777 Studios programmers, and think they can bring a very good WW2 aircombat sim to market. However I don't have much respect for the backroom deals that transferred COD's funding to 777 Studios for the development of BOS. I appreciate the angst COD's investors must have had, and I know its just business, but the back stabbing/political crap never sits well.

very sensitive...



@ Les and Chivas...

+1

I was wondering when you would chime in, if you had bothered to read my above post, you would see where I am coming from on this.

*Just a hint, it ain't to advertise, I know you seem to think that is all I do but that is your own imagination running wild, fact remains that the most active topics on this forum are usually the ones that are devoted to complaining about other sims, sad really.

Not sure what your plans are here startrekmike, if you are not interested in Cliffs then perhaps the new forum dedicated to BoS (link in the first thread) would suit you better. If you are here just to stir things up thats not a good idea.
This is probably the most popular topic here, why don't you take some screen shots and jump in...
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=33161

The above goes for everyone.The forum wars are over here.Get involved in a positive way or don't bother posting.

LaGG-3 "online" flight:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vR7O9...yer_detailpage

Info about QM and missions editor: http://forum.il2sturmovik.net/topic/...ary-part-xxii/

Sokol1

Really nice isn't it. The pilots look fantastic.

I don't get this, and I don't mean just you, Feathered. Everyone on every forum is gushing about how great the pilots look. Rise of Flight has had these sort of pilot animations for years, although I don't recall any reflections from the goggles, but I could be wrong.

It's almost as if no-one can think of anything else to comment on, unless they're busy identifying a LaGG-3 as MiG-3, like one chap. :grin:

The aircraft look good, but not as good as the 109s did. The one in the 'leaked' vid looked better imo. Particularly the aerials. :)

The animation is to be expected its 2013-4 we've been there before :grin:...I would like to hear a bit about CEM and the weather, cloud cover etc. I know its too early for that, but that is my interest

https://vimeo.com/69389947

CLod animation

As far as I know (pretty much only what is on the dev blogs), it sounds like we are going to get full engine management but not a clickable cockpit, so, it won't be unlike Il-2 1946 or even ROF where you have pretty much full control, you just can't do it with the mouse in cockpit, at least that is the impression I get.

Now, as a DCS player, I admit that I appreciate a FULLY functional clickable cockpit with every component and system modeled fully but as I still enjoy IL-2 1946 a great deal without it's clickable cockpits and Cliffs of Dover with it's limited clickable cockpits, I don't think this system is really going to bother me that much, I mean, at least I will be able to bind those controls to my HOTAS and still be in full control.

Either way, there is still not much to go on but I imagine that will be the case.

For myself I thought it was a long time coming for a WW2 sim to have pilots of the right size and of a convincing pose, without the shrunken heads and startled, burger-eating pantomime that we are familiar with. The glint is there too towards the end of the vid. All in all the pilots looked very nice to me and looked like a natural part of the scene.

If wishes were fishes... :wink:

New video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNESU...layer_embedded
http://forum.il2sturmovik.net/topic/...ry/#entry13594

http://forum.il2sturmovik.net/index....&attach_id=382

Sokol1

Would be nice if they could include a customizer for the sound, a half dozen sliders for us sound freaks to tune up to our own likening :cool:

I like the partially disassembled/derelict aircraft model. I hope there will be plenty of static objects available.

I am wondering if any part of the pilot's movements other than head turn will be tied to TIR. Just from an immersion and movie making standpoint it would be great if at least the lean L,R,F,B movements could be tired to TIR like the head turns are.. Since the animations are already there I imagine it wouldn't be too hard but I don't know. Now that Ilya is back on the scene and going to WWII the genre will be getting pretty darned interesting.. It is a GREAT time to be a fan of WWII flight sims.. Lost to look forward to.

" Now that Ilya is back on the scene and going to WWII the genre will be getting pretty darned interesting.. "

More info please ??

Here.
Ilya is back!!!!!!!!!

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...0&postcount=44





.

Finally some good news.

Better than expected... :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4014...layer_embedded

Pre-order: http://il2sturmovik.com/


Sokol1

"We invite you to become a participant in the development of BOS by placing a Pre-Order. By doing this, you will be the first to get access to the product and help us to make it even better. The combat flight-sim genre now needs your attention; modest budgets do not allow the realizationof everything virtual pilots dream about at once. But together we can truly revolutionize the genre and bring back a true legend to the sky!
If there are truly a lot of us, more than the skeptics think, and if the time of serious games for the PC has not passed, then we can make more with your support."


Sounds like funding may be more than a little tight for them. I hope they get high pre-order number's to save the day

I've been following BOS from the beginning and can hardly wait.

Awesome trailer, but the first thing that came to mind was the CFS3 trailer. I always support the genre early and often, but this time I'm waiting to see a video more representative of the product.

Before parting with money I will wait for feedback, once bitten twice shy

I've not seen this before in any other game: The breath of the Il2 gunner condensing on the cold air as he breathes out (at 00.30 minutes).

I agree with the others in that I'll wait before judging or buying...I mean, I'll wait before buying:)

Would be amazing in that wind!!...I just don't see it though

Hey bananas!
Ok so a few of us got to attend the press event and we made a quick impressions video. We tried to address a few Forums questions as well as give an impression of how the event as a whole went down.

I took a lot of CAM footage that I will be posting as soon as I can get back to my home computer. I know alot of people are holding off, but I hope this will help you decide either way. We tried to be objective as we could to represent the entire community that wasnt able to attend. Both Mastiff, and I as well as other attendees Im sure would be happy to answer any questions as quickly and as honestly as possible.

Keep in mind it is Pre alpha gameplay, and the UI is not done at all. Several other things were in as place holders.

Cheers!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjCpgZZiGdc

90$ is a very steep price to pay for participating in the RoF-BS development cost, particularly since you dont actually endup getting a fully finished game that gives you a couple of years of gameplay till the sequel is released.

instead you'll be expected to keep buying new elements like planes, vehicles, maps, scarfs, map building tools and SDK's etc. and that is not just a choice of adding elements you might not need/want, in order to be competitive online the RoF-BS sales model will push you to keep buying newer better planes if you want to have the hope to have a fair chance in online encounters.

the promo video also reminds me of the misleading promo video's from some MS products, with the end product not being represented in the video content (in sales terms this is referred to as the "bait and switch approach"). their map also is empty and bland (snow snow and more snow, no ground detail or significant amount of ground objects). looks very console/arcade to me, more war thunder style then anything even close to what we already have in CoD at the moment.

all by all, no thanks !! we already have much better in CoD then what RoF-BS is trying to peddle, and i wont be paying 100's of dollars over the next months to find out any different :)

Yes, you have demonstrated, that pre ordering is not for everyone. But for those of us that want to support, and have the money to do so, its a great way to get involved early.:cool:

Though I understand your stance, many of your claims are just flat out false. But getting into an discussion with you about anything has seemed more like talking to a brick wall. I hope that you can have enough respect to let others make up their own minds from the information available, rather than the majority of your made up offensive rants.

This trailer is CGI, perharps this condensing is just "after effects". :)

Heres screenshots in game (alpha) with some ground details:

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.ph...ee#Post3814642

Sokol1

Looks good. I'm looking forward to placing a pre-order. Despite the lingering reluctance for such leaps of faith, after the clod debacle. Thanks Hooves and Mastiff for a great summary.

I don't have a problem with buying aircraft, they certainly aren't expensive going by what ROF charges for additional aircraft. These aircraft cost a lot of money to develop. My experience online is most people gravitate to one particular aircraft, and learn to fly it effectively, so just buy it. It'll cost you what 20 bucks, for countless hours of enjoyment. In IL-2 I concentrated my flight time too the 109, until it became outclassed by the newer Spits, then changed aircraft and tactics with the 190.

I like the ROF business model. Provide a decent environment with a some stock aircraft, and charge for additional aircraft. It provides a continual revenue stream, to allow the development to continue adding content, maps, and aircraft. The old IL-2 business model only generated revenue every three years or so, and Oleg eventually lost any control he had to his investors.

What BOS is charging is far more than reasonable "IF" it provides the same amount of entertainment I received from years of buying the original IL-2 products at fifty bucks a pop. I fact those few hundred dollars I paid for the original series was worth thousands of dollars of entertainment value.

That said, this is the first time that I won't be rushing to support the genre, I still have a lot of animosity with the way things went down with this development, and don't trust what they are saying until I see it.

Edit.....Just seen a couple more videos and I'm sold. doh

they upload this video on il2 sturmovik facebook, looks great for an early alpha:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QWlh...ature=youtu.be

and this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZndqJ2MKj0g

This is a long but good read from Requiem, from the event

Those last two videos had me amazed. The devs have been down playing things for such a long time, I was hopeful but careful not to expect too much. Those effects are incredible though. It's amazing what can be done in good old DX9. Very professional team there.

I don't get it, I mean, you keep saying over and over how bad it is, how you will never buy it and how CloD is literally the second coming compared to BoS and yet you still feel compelled to post about how little you like it over and over.

We get it, you don't like it, move on with your life as all this anger towards something you have not even tried must make you tired and bitter in general.

He'll do a complete backflip later. Just watch.; )

I don't understand what the problem is...why are some people acting like CloD and BoS are two different girls that you want a relationship with but one will dump you if you choose the other?

They're video games, very similar video games...if you enjoy one, you'll undoubtedly enjoy the other...and no, they won't get mad and uninstall themselves if you play the other. You're only shorting yourself if you have stick to some made-up "loyalty" to one because you think it's helping for whatever delusional made-up reason. I don't know about you, but I never play a game 100% of the time, even if it's in its hay-day. Take War Thunder for example; horrible simulator, horrible game...but it does do some things right. When BoS comes out, sure, I'll play BoS a whole helluva lot, but I'll still play WT a bit...it's part of the reason why I have a HDD that's larger than 5GB.

If you don't like it for whatever reason, cool, don't buy/play it. Why get mad about it and talk about it as if you made it yourself with your own blood, sweat, and tears, especially when you haven't even played the other? Silly.

With some of the logic I see in this thread, most of the people with their panties in a differ should, by their way of thinking, still be playing Atari's Pong since it's the true predecessor to CloD/IL2 and they need to stick to the true roots of the game.

lol, have they introduced XP points and 777 bucks yet?

I think you must be confusing it with the Maddox MMO, Battle for Moscow. That one was cancelled.

I think you are the one confused. The MMO was being made by 1CSoftClub which had nothing to do with Maddox.

Maddox was always working on BoS, the sequel to CloD. Part of this funding came from the Russian Government, now switched to 777.

Lol lots!:grin:

Looking at the hand held camera video with Loft displaying various lighting features on the fuselage and cockpit, I can't help but say, "This is Direct X 9?" Impressive.

Ah! No golden Olegs then. :(

Please.. don't get me started on CFS3.. That was the first big disappointment for me as far as a flightsim goes.. That trailer looked so good!! And the sim was such a DOG! I had seen IL2 on the shelves but I learned about system specs the hard way on CFS 1 and I knew I couldn't run it so I basically ignored it. I upgraded my PC for CFS3 and while waiting one day ran into a guy in Best Buy who was telling me about IL2.. so I figured what the hey give it a shot.. I was totally blown away.. I went back to the squad in CFS and said "Guys there s this sim IL2.. it's friggin GREAT and..." I got cut off at the knees by the XO who didn't want to fly that "Russian" sim.. besides .. it had no American panes in it.. I think I may have flown in the MSN Zone one or two more times after that .. I tried to get CFS 3 to work but IL was just so good ... and the rest is history..

This post is just TOO D@MNED FUNNY!!! ROFL!

LOL! "Merican" bias. :)

Ops.
Since the leaked Il-2 DEMO ~09/2001 we are able to fly in a "yankee" plane: P-39 Airacobra.

In fact the DEMO mission where take of with P-39 to intercept some He-111 under rain.
The first take off take some trials to get up.:)

At time my sims where WarBirds Online, EAW, FS:SDOE... so dont care about CFS "arcade" stuff - and no CFS3 "trauma". :) Good times.

Sokol1

I like the pilot wiping his brow at 4.23 minutes, on the second video just before Loft zooms in to the close view.