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Verdun1916 12-29-2016 10:31 PM

A flyable Letov S-328 would be nice! It would be a nice Axis counter weight to the R-5/SSS and the upcuming U-2.

iMattheush 01-11-2017 08:10 AM

Ju 52/3mg3e - bomber version :)

Sita 01-11-2017 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iMattheush (Post 715026)
Ju 52/3mg3e - bomber version :)


interesting proposition... but i've got a BIG question ..

do you saw which bomb sight was using on that version?

anybody saw?

iMattheush 01-11-2017 10:33 AM

I don't know.. Maybe at least for AI only model?

Pursuivant 01-11-2017 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sita (Post 715027)
do you saw which bomb sight was using on that version?

The ventral turret gunner was also the bombardier. It seems that he had basic instruments (altimeter, airspeed indicator) and a simple joystick which he could use to maneuver the plane.

Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find detailed pictures of this crew position, much less diagrams.

In any case, the Ju-52/3e appears to have just been used during the Spanish Civil War and the Polish campaign, until better aircraft replaced it. It never made a very good bomber, despite its excellent load-carrying capacity.

iMattheush 01-11-2017 05:08 PM

Yup, you're right, but still it can be a really nice addition :) Like a Li-2 that can be equipped in cargo, bombs or paratroopers :)

gaunt1 01-12-2017 04:32 PM

I'd rather have a flyable Ju-88C6, or a B-25C. Far more useful, and far easier to make.

ddr 01-12-2017 10:07 PM

Flyable B-25C (and G/H) will be great adds to the game :)

gaunt1 01-13-2017 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ddr (Post 715044)
Flyable B-25C (and G/H) will be great adds to the game :)

And relatively easy to make, especially the B-25C. The whole cockpit of the "J" can be used for it. Probably the instruments need a few changes, but nothing radical I think. The ventral turret can be playable too, because it needs no cockpit, just a gunsight.
Ju-88C6 day fighter version is a bit harder, but not by too much. Most of the A4 cockpit can be used direclty, it needs only a modified instrument panel, + an MG-FF and 3 MG-17s.

Pursuivant 01-13-2017 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by gaunt1 (Post 715038)
I'd rather have a flyable Ju-88C6, or a B-25C. Far more useful, and far easier to make.

Beggars can't be choosers. Any new flyable planes are welcome.

Assuming that pilot, co-pilot and dorsal gunner (and possibly cargo handler) crew stations have been made for the Ju-52, it wouldn't be that much trouble to add the ventral gunner/bombardier position - assuming good quality documentation can be found. Some exterior 3D work and animation would be needed to model the bomb bay and ventral turret.

Adding the Ju-88C6 to the game would require extensive 3d work inside and out based on existing Ju-88 models (Ju-88C-2 is probably closest), with different variants for the heavy fighter and night fighter.

Making the B-25C flyable would also require a fair bit of work. There were lots of little changes between the earlier models and later models of Mitchell. Cockpit, bombardier, nose gunner, and dorsal turret positions might all need to be reworked.

The ventral turret gun position could be modeled as just a "gun sight" view rather than a true crew station, which would save a lot of work. But, getting good detailed information on how the gun was aimed and how the turret worked might be tricky.

If the ventral turret station was modeled as a full crew station, with ability to look out nearby windows, etc. good pictures of the interior of the ventral turret and the surrounding area exist.

Slightly simpler to add to the game would be a B-25C/D strafer field mod with solid nose and no ventral turret (it was typically removed in the field). Bombardier/nose gunner and waist gunner positions omitted would be omitted. Dorsal turret crew station and cockpit would need to be reworked. Obviously, exterior 3D work would be needed, too.

Orangeman 01-14-2017 08:50 AM

Ki-44
 
Does anyone know if a Ki-44 Tojo is coming? Over a thousand were produced and they served in many areas of the Pacific War

Pursuivant 01-15-2017 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Orangeman (Post 715051)
Does anyone know if a Ki-44 Tojo is coming? Over a thousand were produced and they served in many areas of the Pacific War

There's a pretty good Tojo available as a mod. I haven't seen any indication that the Ki-44 will be added to the official game, however.

Verdun1916 01-16-2017 07:28 PM

I really want the Dewoitine D.520. I know I've said it before but it's just such a lovely bird!

Sita 01-16-2017 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Verdun1916 (Post 715085)
I really want the Dewoitine D.520. I know I've said it before but it's just such a lovely bird!

will be... Thanks to Kashiide and Macwan

Verdun1916 01-16-2017 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Sita (Post 715086)
will be... Thanks to Kashiide and Macwan

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :grin: :grin: :grin:

That will be amazing! I've been wanting the D.520 for years! And now you guys are making it happen! I can't thank you all enough!!! :grin:

RPS69 01-17-2017 03:05 PM

D 520 plus Bf 100 and 109 E1 will be really nice

GSkoko12 01-17-2017 05:00 PM

Yessssssss!!!!

Verdun1916 01-19-2017 12:23 AM

Are you planning the D.520 for 4.13.3 or for a later update?
It will be one of the greatest additions in terms of fighters of all time for the IL-2 1946 stock game! :D

HBPencil 01-19-2017 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Sita (Post 715086)
will be... Thanks to Kashiide and Macwan

That's awesome! If you don't mind me asking, if Macwan is working on the this then can I ask what's happening with the P-40K, F and N variants?

Sita 01-19-2017 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Verdun1916 (Post 715098)
for 4.13.3 or for a later update?

or for a later update))

Sita 01-19-2017 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by HBPencil (Post 715099)
That's awesome! If you don't mind me asking, if Macwan is working on the this then can I ask what's happening with the P-40K, F and N variants?

sure) don't mind) may be he will answer by him self ... but if i remember correctly that model almost ready ...but not finished ...

HBPencil 01-22-2017 01:00 AM

Cheers for the update Sita.

Verdun1916 01-29-2017 05:40 PM

I might have wished for this before. But here goes anyway: the Handley Page Halifax B.II and B.III would be nice! I'd prefere it to the Lancaster as it was in service from earlier on.

The Wellington, the Blenheims and the Swordfish would also be appreciated to be upgraded to flyable status.

Sita 01-30-2017 07:17 AM

i see here a lot requests ...

but i must ask ... may be some one of persons which presents here have experience in 3D work? Especially in work with External 3d model ...
i asking because we have few unfinished models ... and for one of it few days ago was made Awesome skin-template by one person from here ... Thank you Mate btw)))

but that model didn't have lods and dm meshes ... may be some of you have force and wish to take a part in that process)

Verdun1916 01-30-2017 08:50 PM

I wish I could help you guys out, Sita! But sadly I have no such skills! :(

Verdun1916 02-16-2017 04:59 PM

A flyable Curtiss SB2C Helldiver would be nice to fill the lack of a late war carrier born dive bomber and a carrier born torpedo bomber not affected by the N-G-issue.
Not one of the prettiest war planes to take to the sky during the second World war and not the most popular either apparantly. But it would fill a need for those who like caccier born operations.

iMattheush 02-19-2017 06:43 PM

Another pretty easy plane to add - F4U-4 Corsair, why?
1) Because is the fastest carrier based plane that actively sees combat in WWII
2) Was used in both WWII and Korea scenarios
3) Simply - it's awesome!

Ok, i forgot, Northrop Grumman issue :( :(

So, maybe P-47N? :)

Marabekm 02-20-2017 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verdun1916 (Post 715305)
A flyable Curtiss SB2C Helldiver would be nice to fill the lack of a late war carrier born dive bomber and a carrier born torpedo bomber not affected by the N-G-issue.
Not one of the prettiest war planes to take to the sky during the second World war and not the most popular either apparantly. But it would fill a need for those who like caccier born operations.

:grin:
I like carriers.
There were 5 such engagements:
Coral Sea, Midway, Eastern Solomons, Santa Cruz, and the Philippine Sea.

The first 4 took part in 1942. We have the plane sets available for those. Just need a flyable TBD. With the exception that the D4Y1. (But it was more of a reconnaissance plane at this time. Standard ship board dive bomber was still D3A) And the TBF and TBD are AI only. I know the TBF can't be made flyable but perhaps someone can work on the TBD.

The Philippine Sea would require a little more. For the Japanese the only flyable plane currently available is the A6M5. The B6N is in game as AI only. So maybe this could be made flyable? And then as mentioned above, the is no D4Y model at all.
For the U.S. its a little better, the F6F, and SBD-5 are available and flyable. And again unfortunately the TBM is out of the question. Like the D4Y there is no SB2C.

Just an interesting fact, the SB2C was very unpopular, most VB units preferred the SBD. During the Philippine Sea, the only 2 squadrons equipped with the SBD, were VB-10 and VB-16. Of the 26 SBD-5s used, only 4 were lost. Of the 51 SB2Cs used, 43 were lost. But the problem was, the government had already agreed to purchase the SB2Cs from Curtiss.

gaunt1 02-20-2017 07:59 AM

Well, there are pictures about both the B6N and D4Y cockpits, so it would be possible to model these... The problem is that there is nobody to do it.

But, in my opinion, D3A2 would be more important to have first...

majorfailure 02-20-2017 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marabekm (Post 715362)
:grin:
I like carriers.
There were 5 such engagements:
Coral Sea, Midway, Eastern Solomons, Santa Cruz, and the Philippine Sea.

The first 4 took part in 1942. We have the plane sets available for those. Just need a flyable TBD. With the exception that the D4Y1. (But it was more of a reconnaissance plane at this time. Standard ship board dive bomber was still D3A) And the TBF and TBD are AI only. I know the TBF can't be made flyable but perhaps someone can work on the TBD.

The Philippine Sea would require a little more. For the Japanese the only flyable plane currently available is the A6M5. The B6N is in game as AI only. So maybe this could be made flyable? And then as mentioned above, the is no D4Y model at all.
For the U.S. its a little better, the F6F, and SBD-5 are available and flyable. And again unfortunately the TBM is out of the question. Like the D4Y there is no SB2C.

Just an interesting fact, the SB2C was very unpopular, most VB units preferred the SBD. During the Philippine Sea, the only 2 squadrons equipped with the SBD, were VB-10 and VB-16. Of the 26 SBD-5s used, only 4 were lost. Of the 51 SB2Cs used, 43 were lost. But the problem was, the government had already agreed to purchase the SB2Cs from Curtiss.

You argue against the SB2C with loss statistics, and want a flyable TBD? I'm a bit puzzled. SB2C had bad statistics initially but turned out fine in the end -though crews still didn't like it.

A flyable TDB would not be viable for most carrier battles, as after Midway they were finished as a front-line plane. So TBD would be useful for one and half a battle. What we would need is a flyable TBF -erm, yes, not viable either. So a replacement for the TBF would be good - and there are few options, the SB2C or with a little leeway a B6N or even a Barracuda, and I'd take any of them, just to have a bomber/torpedo bomber for mid to late war allied carrier operations.

Marabekm 02-20-2017 10:44 PM

I believe you misunderstand. I was not arguing against a Helldiver being added. It and any other planes that anyone chooses to add is greatly appreciated, even the early war ones.. I was simple saying, the TBD and B6N are already in game. Just not flyable. The dive bombers (SB2C and D4Y are not in the game and would require more work)

The bit about the SBDs and SB2C losses during the Philippine Sea Battle was just an interesting fact I thought, and in no way made to say that a Helldiver should not be added.

stugumby 02-21-2017 01:54 PM

Those hell divers ran out of gas?

GSkoko12 02-21-2017 02:26 PM

I think Years ago Team Daidalos wrote that Helldiver was in the works, is that still possible Sita?

Sita 02-21-2017 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSkoko12 (Post 715374)
I think Years ago Team Daidalos wrote that Helldiver was in the works, is that still possible Sita?

somewhere in dark farthest hangar covered by layer of dust stand unfinished model ... if i remember correctly ...

GSkoko12 02-21-2017 04:27 PM

Well speaking about unfinished model, You have asked one month ago for help to finish some unfinished model, has anybody volunteered for that. What skills and tool are needed to bild 3d model? Who will build FM is 3d model is finished?

Sita 02-21-2017 04:49 PM

))))
how many attempts guess i must give to you?)))

skils.... hmmm ... need know 3d max ... may be not perfect ... may be even little ... need know how copy mesh ..and how to remove from it excess edges or poly....

majorfailure 02-21-2017 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marabekm (Post 715369)
I believe you misunderstand. I was not arguing against a Helldiver being added. It and any other planes that anyone chooses to add is greatly appreciated, even the early war ones.. I was simple saying, the TBD and B6N are already in game. Just not flyable. The dive bombers (SB2C and D4Y are not in the game and would require more work)

The bit about the SBDs and SB2C losses during the Philippine Sea Battle was just an interesting fact I thought, and in no way made to say that a Helldiver should not be added.

Okay then I think I got you wrong. Sorry for that.

GSkoko12 02-21-2017 07:03 PM

Well Sita, in about one month I will have some excess time maybe I can try, I will let You know then, OK?

Sita 02-21-2017 07:09 PM

one brave man)))

ok... pm me when you will ready)

GSkoko12 02-23-2017 02:42 PM

We will see will I be off any use, but I will not know if I do not try :), I will


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