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GOZR 05-06-2011 04:59 PM

Crossfire is not existent ...

kashwashwa 05-06-2011 05:14 PM

I only have the russian version of the game at the moment (waiting for NA release), but the beta patch now causes the game to crash when I try to load a mission...

303_Tees 05-06-2011 05:44 PM

Hi there after patch in full screen mode i cant alt+tab when im tying getting crash

LcSummers 05-06-2011 05:59 PM

Its running better/smoother for me but now i have more:( crashes.

I had the beta installed on a fresh COD. Any suggestions?

Thanks

Salute

Karppa 05-06-2011 06:16 PM

Crossfire is enabled in full screen but performance gain is minimal...

skouras 05-06-2011 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 303_Tees (Post 279526)
Hi there after patch in full screen mode i cant alt+tab when im tying getting crash

as many people here...
don't forget its not a patch its a beta

PVT_Shepperd 05-06-2011 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skouras (Post 279550)
as many people here...
don't forget its not a patch its a beta

What should a beta be good for if there is no feedback ?

15.Span_Valalo 05-06-2011 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skouras (Post 279550)
as many people here...
don't forget its not a patch its a beta


It is not beta, it is a joke... I payed 70 € for this game, and I cant play....
...70€ and work to beta-tester-gamer????.... I think that this is a insult at consumer...

I think that in the future, if i will buy a game from 1c, or wait two years to game will playable or not buy game...

I feel cheated...

SUP_Trok 05-06-2011 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 15.Span_Valalo (Post 279612)
It is not beta, it is a joke... I payed 70 € for this game, and I cant play....
...70€ and work to beta-tester-gamer????.... I think that this is a insult at consumer...

I think that in the future, if i will buy a game from 1c, or wait two years to game will playable or not buy game...

I feel cheated...

Quote quote quote at 100% I am very frustrated for this situation!!! :-(

Capt Backasswards 05-06-2011 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 15.Span_Valalo (Post 279612)
It is not beta, it is a joke... I payed 70 € for this game, and I cant play....
...70€ and work to beta-tester-gamer????.... I think that this is a insult at consumer...

I think that in the future, if i will buy a game from 1c, or wait two years to game will playable or not buy game...

I feel cheated...

I feel cheated too! I didn't get a Spitfire with Clipped wings and a Cannon!:lol:


Seriously, you're not going to get an indepth simulation this day and age that doesn't have a good number of bugs in it. It's just the way it is. Granted the sim was released a month or two too early - but they'll get there. Give it some time. Go fishing. Chase women. Grow your own...

LoBiSoMeM 05-06-2011 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 15.Span_Valalo (Post 279612)
It is not beta, it is a joke... I payed 70 € for this game, and I cant play....
...70€ and work to beta-tester-gamer????.... I think that this is a insult at consumer...

I think that in the future, if i will buy a game from 1c, or wait two years to game will playable or not buy game...

I feel cheated...

I bought this sim.

Unplayable "out of the box".

After the last beta patch, I can have fun with large air battels over London, with no big performance flaws.

My rig:

Phenom X4 3.4GHz
4GB ram 800Hz
ATI HD 4850 512MB

I use 1680x1050, fullscreen, AA2x, Vsync ON, Models High, Effects High, Shadows, Grass and Roads ON. Just low the other settings, like terrain shaders, forest, etc.

The sim runs SMOOTH now!

The work solving bugs is in a good pace.

:-)

ll boss ll 05-06-2011 09:02 PM

okay so umm... cant see that steam is automatically downloading patch, and i have it set to...

so i downloaded it from megaupload site, saved to desktop... do i just copy the downloaded file and paste it into steam/steamapps/common/il2cliffs of dover file

and then good to go ??

kakkola 05-06-2011 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 15.Span_Valalo (Post 279612)
It is not beta, it is a joke... I payed 70 € for this game, and I cant play....
...70€ and work to beta-tester-gamer????.... I think that this is a insult at consumer...

I think that in the future, if i will buy a game from 1c, or wait two years to game will playable or not buy game...

I feel cheated...

+1
Wow 70 euros?sorry man......
I spent only 14.81 dollars(still TOO MUCH) for this beta thing(russian version)and i feel cheated too....i`ll wait months before buying the US version

janpitor 05-06-2011 09:45 PM

Ok, it seems that the differences between patches are not big in terms of performance...but at the end it seems the last is smoother

JG14_Jagr 05-06-2011 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ll boss ll (Post 279644)
okay so umm... cant see that steam is automatically downloading patch, and i have it set to...

so i downloaded it from megaupload site, saved to desktop... do i just copy the downloaded file and paste it into steam/steamapps/common/il2cliffs of dover file

and then good to go ??

Yes, copy the folders and allow them to overwrite If you have issues, go to Steam Library, select properties and select verify integrity of cache and it will revert to the latest official patch.

From what I have seen.. a significant number of the posts are generated by people not knowing how to update the game, and the fairly complex structure under Win7 where the same fiels are stored in different locations :)

ll boss ll 05-06-2011 09:53 PM

i pasted all files into il-2 folder,

now when i try to launch game, launcher stops working and program shuts down...so no more game :(

:confused:


guess time to delete and reload ...

jojimbo 05-06-2011 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ll boss ll (Post 279668)
i pasted all files into il-2 folder,

now when i try to launch game, launcher stops working and program shuts down...so no more game :(

:confused:


guess time to delete and reload ...

try setting fullscreen to "pseudo" as this worked for me.
the fullscreen is broken afaik

Buchon 05-06-2011 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ll boss ll (Post 279668)
i pasted all files into il-2 folder,

now when i try to launch game, launcher stops working and program shuts down...so no more game :(

:confused:


guess time to delete and reload ...

What version you have, Russian or European ?

You should download the patch assigned to your version.

To repair the game click on it in Steam and go to properties, then click local files.

Now click Verify the integrity of cache, Steam will revert all changes.

lbuchele 05-06-2011 10:40 PM

I'm not expecting too much improvement in fps because since last patch the performance is pretty high at least in my system ( 19-152 fps in Black Death)
We need more content and gameplay improvements...

broken pixel 05-06-2011 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt Backasswards (Post 279621)
I feel cheated too! I didn't get a Spitfire with Clipped wings and a Cannon!:lol:


Seriously, you're not going to get an indepth simulation this day and age that doesn't have a good number of bugs in it. It's just the way it is. Granted the sim was released a month or two too early - but they'll get there. Give it some time. Go fishing. Chase women. Grow your own...

The clipped wing spits where my favorite and with cannons.

Wolf_Rider 05-06-2011 11:23 PM

On a positive note, there didn't seem to be any Launcher crashes after changing settings in video options

ll boss ll 05-07-2011 12:20 AM

[QUOTE=Buchon;279672]What version you have, Russian or European ?

You should download the patch assigned to your version.

To repair the game click on it in Steam and go to properties, then click local files.

Now click Verify the integrity of cache, Steam will revert all changes.[/QUOTE


i downloaded from just flight so, european version....

i just ended up uninstalling and reinstalling have about 73% left to install, because verfiying the intergrity thru steam did nothing , so idk...

im at a loss to be honest.... i pasted all files into il-2 cliffs of dover file , and would no longer start up game...

Cdr84 05-07-2011 12:48 AM

Still have problem where engines die when switching positions in bomber on multiplayer as discussed in this thread;

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=22301

Cdr

Skoshi Tiger 05-07-2011 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ll boss ll (Post 279644)
okay so umm... cant see that steam is automatically downloading patch, and i have it set to...

so i downloaded it from megaupload site, saved to desktop... do i just copy the downloaded file and paste it into steam/steamapps/common/il2cliffs of dover file

and then good to go ??

Steam will only upgrade the game to the latest release version. The beta patch requires a manual download and install as you have found out.

Once it is stable it will be put on steam as an automatic download.

Cheers!

SEE 05-07-2011 02:35 AM

Initially OK, but experienced screen freezes after a few minutes into some missions that were perfectly Ok with the previous beta patch. Had to lower settings to prevent freezing - rolled back to last Beta and Ok again with higher settings. Beta's applied over official update and cache cleared.


Duel Core - win7/64 - GTX560Ti - 4Gb @ 1280 x 768

FS~Phat 05-07-2011 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karppa (Post 279547)
Crossfire is enabled in full screen but performance gain is minimal...

Performance gain is considerable for crossfire, at least for me and its only using 50%-60% of each of my 4 GPUs so clearly more optimisation to come.

I get avg 40FPS and 80FPS max in BlackDeath with single card and avg 74FPS and 176FPS max with crossfire. I call that significant. This is only in single player though.

Multi players is stuffed and worse than a couple patches ago with only 24FPS max and avg 19FPS.

JG14_Jagr 05-07-2011 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FS~Phat (Post 279746)
Performance gain is considerable for crossfire, at least for me and its only using 50%-60% of each of my 4 GPUs so clearly more optimisation to come.

I get avg 40FPS and 80FPS max in BlackDeath with single card and avg 74FPS and 176FPS max with crossfire. I call that significant. This is only in single player though.

Multi players is stuffed and worse than a couple patches ago with only 24FPS max and avg 19FPS.

Wow, thats excellent.. a lot of people are not having Xfire work for them.. could you post your settings, include the conf.ini settings, your ATI specific settings, driver versions etc.

Hopefully everyone can use yours to get their setup working..

ll boss ll 05-07-2011 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger (Post 279732)
Steam will only upgrade the game to the latest release version. The beta patch requires a manual download and install as you have found out.

Once it is stable it will be put on steam as an automatic download.

Cheers!

didnt know that thanks, i appreciate the replies...

there were between 70 and 80 files i put in the file il2 cliffs of dover, which caused a launcher crash....

still dont know what i did wrong ... i seemed to do what was told... maybe somebody could make a youtube video of installing a beta patch, thatd be awsome!

i was thinking since i bought from firstflight and then put it into steam to download and that technically its not released in US that steam wouldnt install patches until US release.

JG14_Jagr 05-07-2011 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ll boss ll (Post 279751)
didnt know that thanks, i appreciate the replies...

there were between 70 and 80 files i put in the file il2 cliffs of dover, which caused a launcher crash....

still dont know what i did wrong ... i seemed to do what was told... maybe somebody could make a youtube video of installing a beta patch, thatd be awsome!

i was thinking since i bought from firstflight and then put it into steam to download and that technically its not released in US that steam wouldnt install patches until US release.

Leave the FILES in the 3 folders Do not take them out of the folders..

FS~Phat 05-07-2011 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JG14_Jagr (Post 279749)
Wow, thats excellent.. a lot of people are not having Xfire work for them.. could you post your settings, include the conf.ini settings, your ATI specific settings, driver versions etc.

Hopefully everyone can use yours to get their setup working..


Latest beta installed over steam verified files
Game Cache Deleted
Win 7 64bit (not SP1)
ATI CCC Defaults except Cat AI set to high quality
ATI Driver 11.4c hotfix
Crossfire on
Intel Hyperthreading enabled in bios

COD
1920x1080 res
Full screen mode
8xAA
Epilepsy off
Settings all high
SSAO on
Vsync off
roads, grass, shadows on

Default conf.ini (delete and game automatically creates defaults)
ProcessAffinityMask=14

JG14_Jagr 05-07-2011 04:29 AM

Thanks FS, hopefully it will help the guys with Crossfire get theres working

ll boss ll 05-07-2011 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JG14_Jagr (Post 279754)
Leave the FILES in the 3 folders Do not take them out of the folders..

thanks for reply..

thinking i offically broke the game thou...when i first unzipped the file thru download(which was a one use file extract) from website, it gave me a bunch of files not folders i put them in the il2cliffs of dover file in steam, which caused launcher crash...

downloaded another file to see the files so i could manually take them out and that zip download gave me 3 folders, which i put into il2cliffsofdover file in steam thinking it would overwrite everything, still got launcher crash, so i started manully taking out files that came with extracted file, still getting launcher crash... so i dont know what to do know ... im lost...

dont know how to launch game in window, so havent tried that ..
thanks for any replies

uninstalling and reinstalling thru steam, just resulted in everything going back to the way it was all screwed up..

would just like to get everything back to the way it was, not knowing at the time steam would automatically install patch when released thinking i had to manually do it,,,,

JG14_Jagr 05-07-2011 05:16 AM

If you go to Steam Library , right click on IL2 COD and then go to properties and select Verify Cache Integrity it should bring ANY file in your install back to the latest official patch standard.

ll boss ll 05-07-2011 05:27 AM

okay tried this before and nothing so tried again and said 33 files failed to validate, so steam began to download took like 45 secs, after completed i pressed play and launcher failed again...

soo umm should i just start deleted files in the folder and have steam revalidate everything, maybe that will put back everything the way it was...just thinking haha..but im desperate at this point..... thanks for the help...i need all the help i can get at this point !! its much appreciated !

darky1 05-07-2011 06:54 AM

Thank you for all your hard work, but please forgive me if this sounds silly but the folder named parts do i drop the whole folder into my "1C SoftClub/il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover" folder ??? thus giving me an extra folder named parts :confused:

gonk 05-07-2011 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darky1 (Post 279794)
Thank you for all your hard work, but please forgive me if this sounds silly but the folder named parts do i drop the whole folder into my "1C SoftClub/il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover" folder ??? thus giving me an extra folder named parts :confused:

yes.. they will merge and you will not end up with 2 parts folders.. just tick replace file when the option pops up

naz 05-07-2011 07:50 AM

I don't get it. Yesterday I posted some results with this beta installed (after first verifying cache etc)...all seemed good. Today I load up the game without making any changes to anything whatsoever, and the game is performing very sluggishly again and stutters have worsened again.

So frustrating.

Buzpilot 05-07-2011 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darky1 (Post 279794)
Thank you for all your hard work, but please forgive me if this sounds silly but the folder named parts do i drop the whole folder into my "1C SoftClub/il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover" folder ??? thus giving me an extra folder named parts :confused:

Beta patch is for; \Steam\steamapps\common\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover
Not 1C SoftClub

Ze-Jamz 05-07-2011 11:43 AM

For me sound is in and out then finally gone all together with this new Beta patch, also when i launch game in multi-player i have nothing than a black screen until i alt-tab out then back in again then viola im sitting in a cockpit.. strange

im reverting back to latest official again

BlackbusheFlyer 05-07-2011 11:48 AM

Same problems here, sound seems to disappear altogether after awhile along with afore mentioned problems exiting multi-player.

Strangely single player seems allot smoother and graphics look better, however in multi-player am now getting a great deal of stuttering.

anavas44 05-07-2011 01:48 PM

I'm very sad to say this, but with the latest beta patch I only get "Launcher.exe has detected a problem and it will close" and can't play. I've never had any problems with the game with the previous patches, so there is something definitely wrong with this patch.

My specs:
CPU Intel QuadCore Q9650
Ait HD5870
4Gb RAM
Windows 7 x64

EDIT: I reinstalled previous beta patch, and then this one and it worked. I'm impressed because I started a quick flight over LE HAVRE and I had NO STUTTERING at all, however, when flying over the city I think I got a bit less FPS as before (specially over the industrial area at Le Havre). Keep the good work guys. I'm proud of having bought the game on it's collector's edition at day 1 at my local store!

jt_medina 05-07-2011 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anavas44 (Post 279897)
I'm very sad to say this, but with the latest beta patch I only get "Launcher.exe has detected a problem and it will close" and can't play. I've never had any problems with the game with the previous patches, so there is something definitely wrong with this patch.

My specs:
CPU Intel QuadCore Q9650
Ait HD5870
4Gb RAM
Windows 7 x64

Try to delete the conf.ini it may fix the problem.It worked for me sometimes.

anavas44 05-07-2011 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jt_medina (Post 279898)
Try to delete the conf.ini it may fix the problem.It worked for me sometimes.

Thanks for the tip! However I already deleted the whole "Documents\1C Softclub" folder, so the game could generate all files again, but it didn't work.

I'll keep trying though.

Mysticpuma 05-07-2011 02:21 PM

Okay here goes.

Running the Sim I launch CloD and then go to Single Mission.

Choosing the Bomber intercept and then launching the Mission by pressing "Fly" takes me to the aircraft loadout screen, after which the game launches.

After this I see a Black Screen and the Mouse-pointer and nothing happens.

Now, pressing Ctrl+Alt+Del takes me to the Task manager and on the Taskbar I can see the Cliffs of Dover Icon (meaning the game is running).

If I then click the Icon on the taskbar, I go back into the game and the Mission is Running and I am able to fly.

Currently this is the only way I get it to play.

Windows 7 64-Bit Ultimate. Nvidia 560Ti - Twin Frozr II and latest Drivers, Asus P6X58DE, 12Gb Corsair Dominator Ram.

Over the sea, frame-rate is smooth, not tried landscape yet.

Cheers, MP

ll boss ll 05-07-2011 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JG14_Jagr (Post 279778)
If you go to Steam Library , right click on IL2 COD and then go to properties and select Verify Cache Integrity it should bring ANY file in your install back to the latest official patch standard.

i just took out all the files and let steam redownload them, game works fine now .... big sigh of relief....

My solution with launcher fail :: dont uninstall game and reinstall, just take out all the files in the steam/steamapps/common/il2cliffsofdover file and the go to steam library, properties of the game select to verify cache intergrity, the files will be missing and steam will replace... this worked for me ..

it wasnt the beta's fault just mine not knowing how to install..so not gonna make that mistake anymore,

looking forward to the developers releaseing the patch and letting steam take care of it !! :grin:

SUP_Trok 05-07-2011 02:59 PM

1 ) Now I Can't exit from all mission and I need force the close by CTRL+ALT+CANC...(button exit don't work)
2) One of my friend can't use some Buttons in this game.....
3) the Frame rate in multiplayer Is very low than previous version... and I dont see any one of the Fixed bug or improvement in the list of this beta... I am very unhappy!

4) The ammo loadout still don't work. Bombs and gun are not loaded
5) I see graphic errors in the sea and on the coast (some long lines)
6) The copilot is unusefull if there is no possible to release bomb... the crazy thing is that the only pilot can release the bombs and the copilot shoud stay not in the gunsight position.. what is the sence of the copilot?
7) Another my friend can't select plane on all maps...
8 ) I have button errors in the menu of the game (sometimes I can't open some menus)
9) Another my friend can't save command key
10) On the ju-88 the bombs are released at random and not every time that I press the button on joy or on the keyboard!
11) On the BR-20 I can't open bombs door.
the list is very long and every time that we try some mission we can't do a flight!!!!!!
I am also unhappy because every beta they do one step forward.. and two backward.... and if all of us say here: "wait wait..they will fix all bugs" is not encouraging if this are the results!

as I Think.... on the ubi store they should write that the game is still a beta with many bugs because all new man that will buy this simulator will come here very angry :-D

phoenix1963 05-07-2011 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackbusheFlyer (Post 279867)
Same problems here, sound seems to disappear altogether after awhile along with afore mentioned problems exiting multi-player.

Strangely single player seems allot smoother and graphics look better, however in multi-player am now getting a great deal of stuttering.

+1, exactly the same.

My supposed fix of zeroing the Steam sound in the mixer doesn't work after all.

56RAF_phoenix

utu 05-07-2011 05:12 PM

Some problems with stuttering on the cities, also the trees don't appear again if you try to play with video settings. The onboard AA don't work good, I tried with 4x and 2x in the nvidia cp and it works definitely smoother fps. Except the trees and the buildings, and no grass and no roads, the other settings are maxed out gtx 570 win7 64b.

Mysticpuma 05-07-2011 05:34 PM

Bug in latest patch. Example here:

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=22631

SacaSoh 05-07-2011 05:50 PM

No changes in performance in single player, but now, for the first time, i'm having stutters in multiplayer.

Wolf_Rider 05-07-2011 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phoenix1963 (Post 279918)
+1, exactly the same.

My supposed fix of zeroing the Steam sound in the mixer doesn't work after all.

56RAF_phoenix



What Steam sound?

Spinnetti 05-07-2011 10:06 PM

So, Its unplayable for me, and just BARELY playable (but controls don't work right) at the lowest possible settings, yet all my specs are the recommended ones, except my video card which was listed as compatible (computer isn't even a year old). Do I wait and hope for a fix or how do I go about getting a refund? I hope it will get playable, but the lowest settings and practically VGA graphics are still not workable, yet IL2 (modded extensively) runs perfect with everything maxxed out at 2560x1440. Not complaining, but $50 is just wasted so far. What are my options?

i7 2.8
4gig DDR3
ATI 4850
Win 7 64 bit

JG14_Jagr 05-07-2011 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spinnetti (Post 280045)
So, Its unplayable for me, and just BARELY playable (but controls don't work right) at the lowest possible settings, yet all my specs are the recommended ones, except my video card which was listed as compatible (computer isn't even a year old). Do I wait and hope for a fix or how do I go about getting a refund? I hope it will get playable, but the lowest settings and practically VGA graphics are still not workable, yet IL2 (modded extensively) runs perfect with everything maxxed out at 2560x1440. Not complaining, but $50 is just wasted so far. What are my options?

i7 2.8
4gig DDR3
ATI 4850
Win 7 64 bit

What resolution are you running? How are you setting the Video Options in game? Are you using default CCC setings or are you setting things there as well. I've seen people with similar rigs say it was running well, so there should be a way to get yours working.. Share some additional info and someone will help.

JG14_Jagr 05-07-2011 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider (Post 279982)
What Steam sound?


Hisssssssssssssss

Sorry, couldn't resist :)

lancerr 05-07-2011 11:41 PM

Finally playable
 
The latest patch and upgrading my rig finally made the game playable. My rig is far from top of the line, and I consistently can play with everything set on high (except building detail and building amount) and AA @ 2x.

Here are the specs of my computer

C2D 6400 @ 2.13GHZ
6GB ram (DDR2 533 mhz)
Win 7 64 bit
ATI 6950

I'm getting 30-50 FPS in almost all scenarios. After doubling the ram from 3 to 6, I no longer get any major stutters (seems like that was what was holding it back)

ElAurens 05-07-2011 11:45 PM

Just tried multiplayer with the latest beta.

Hopeless.

Lower frames, ground mesh/graphic corruptions, GUI mostly unuseable, how can it be so bad, and offline be so good?

I'm reverting back to the current non-beta level and coming back in a few weeks and hope things are better.

If not, I see no future here. The sim is losing long time players left and right. A break through has to happen, and soon, or it's the end of the line for the IL2 series.

I hope 1C is happy that they forced an early launch and wrecked it for everyone.

EL out.

Fansadox 05-08-2011 12:14 AM

I give up.... this is just frustrating to a point where im starting to get hate feelings wich is a shame cause i really enjoyed il2.

My personal opinion is to just leave it for what it is and start from scratch with a better engine etc... save that what can be saved and port it over. Give the people that payed and registered a free copy of the new product and your done. Atm i have a feeling that this isnt going anywhere...

BadAim 05-08-2011 12:42 AM

I'm getting good performance with this patch, although I still have the "dancing shadows" for trees and buildings. Keep up the good work guys, you'll stamp out these bugs in good time. Pay no attention to the trolls.

Thee_oddball 05-08-2011 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElAurens (Post 280066)
Just tried multiplayer with the latest beta.

Hopeless.

Lower frames, ground mesh/graphic corruptions, GUI mostly unuseable, how can it be so bad, and offline be so good?

I'm reverting back to the current non-beta level and coming back in a few weeks and hope things are better.

If not, I see no future here. The sim is losing long time players left and right. A break through has to happen, and soon, or it's the end of the line for the IL2 series.

I hope 1C is happy that they forced an early launch and wrecked it for everyone.

EL out.

EL i ave read that doing a CLEAN install of the patch helps...have steam verify the game (install the official patch) purge your cache and then apply the new patch... I know you should not have todo this but if it helps your performance why not :)

mazex 05-08-2011 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spinnetti (Post 280045)
So, Its unplayable for me, and just BARELY playable (but controls don't work right) at the lowest possible settings, yet all my specs are the recommended ones, except my video card which was listed as compatible (computer isn't even a year old). Do I wait and hope for a fix or how do I go about getting a refund? I hope it will get playable, but the lowest settings and practically VGA graphics are still not workable, yet IL2 (modded extensively) runs perfect with everything maxxed out at 2560x1440. Not complaining, but $50 is just wasted so far. What are my options?

i7 2.8
4gig DDR3
ATI 4850
Win 7 64 bit

Mmm, but that really is a three year old budget card. My son who is seven has one of them but he is whining about bad performance in Lego Star Wars... As the rest of the rig seems OK I guess a GTX560ti or similar would make Cod play nicely (and that is a rather cheap card).

On my old Core 2 Duo E8400 with 6Gb DDR2 with a GTX580 I get 40-80 fps in most situations (weird combo but I'm waiting for my new chassis so I have replaced the GTX275 that was in that rig before with the card for the new 2600k rig that is now in a pile of boxes ;)). With my old 275 it was good too with the latest patches - got 30+ fps on the Black Death track with everything on high...

Space Communist 05-08-2011 02:22 AM

Indeed I have a 560 Ti with only 1 gb vram and I run the game beautifully on high across the board at 1920 x 1080.

ElAurens 05-08-2011 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadAim (Post 280076)
I'm getting good performance with this patch, although I still have the "dancing shadows" for trees and buildings. Keep up the good work guys, you'll stamp out these bugs in good time. Pay no attention to the trolls.

Troll?

How dare you.

I've been at this longer than you son. I've beta tested for the dev team in the past, I've beta tested for TD, I've flown every single version, map, plane, mission type, offline and on, since 2001. And not once in that time have I ever felt so let down as I have with Cliffs of Dover. It's a rushed (after 6 years?) Alpha build. Nothing more.

The patches fix one thing and break two more. NO substantial progress is being made. If you think so then you are nothing more than a hopeless fan boy. And I should know, I once was a fan boy of Oleg's work myself. But Oleg is out of the picture and IL2 is dead.

This title needs at least six months to a year's constant development to be at a point where it is fit for release. Do you really you think 1C is going to keep bleeding Rubles for that long?

Illya has less than a month to pull this off.

I frankly don't think it's possible.

And if you think I am happy about that, then you really have no clue.

Luftrofl 05-08-2011 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mazex (Post 280087)
Mmm, but that really is a three year old budget card. My son who is seven has one of them but he is whining about bad performance in Lego Star Wars... As the rest of the rig seems OK I guess a GTX560ti or similar would make Cod play nicely (and that is a rather cheap card).

On my old Core 2 Duo E8400 with 6Gb DDR2 with a GTX580 I get 40-80 fps in most situations (weird combo but I'm waiting for my new chassis so I have replaced the GTX275 that was in that rig before with the card for the new 2600k rig that is now in a pile of boxes ;)). With my old 275 it was good too with the latest patches - got 30+ fps on the Black Death track with everything on high...

If that's true, which is unlikely, then Lego Star Wars much be horribly optimized just like CoD. It's ridiculous to expect people to have one of the top 10 graphics cards available considering what the published system requirements are.

Only when(IF EVER) this game is taking full advantage of the resources it's given can anyone make claims as to what graphics cards should or shouldn't work with it.

Eckhart 05-08-2011 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElAurens (Post 280099)
Troll?

How dare you.

I've been at this longer than you son. I've beta tested for the dev team in the past, I've beta tested for TD, I've flown every single version, map, plane, mission type, offline and on, since 2001. And not once in that time have I ever felt so let down as I have with Cliffs of Dover. It's a rushed (after 6 years?) Alpha build. Nothing more.

The patches fix one thing and break two more. NO substantial progress is being made. If you think so then you are nothing more than a hopeless fan boy. And I should know, I once was a fan boy of Oleg's work myself. But Oleg is out of the picture and IL2 is dead.

This title needs at least six months to a year's constant development to be at a point where it is fit for release. Do you really you think 1C is going to keep bleeding Rubles for that long?

Illya has less than a month to pull this off.

I frankly don't think it's possible.

And if you think I am happy about that, then you really have no clue.

+1...sad story :confused:
this disaster will foreclose any other serious project of WWII flightsimulation :evil:

jamesdietz 05-08-2011 02:40 AM

Where does this install? I have Steam Folder & 1Csoft club folder & neither seems to have a" parts "folder.Eventually do these betas self load thru steam as in Rise of Flight?

Luftrofl 05-08-2011 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamesdietz (Post 280105)
Where does this install? I have Steam Folder & 1Csoft club folder & neither seems to have a" parts "folder.Eventually do these betas self load thru steam as in Rise of Flight?

Steam/Steamapps/common/il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover

609_Huetz 05-08-2011 05:05 AM

Any hard feelings I might slowly be getting for the devs aside:

Latest Beta patch brings no significant gain in performance. More stuttering/microwarps over highly populated areas, increase the longer you fly over such areas (i.e. LeHavre, London).


Since I am also one of the few people that fly online regularly, here's a few observations:

Overall good FPS, drops over polulated areas and when the animated brown-ish dust on a landing/crahsing plane comes up.

Sound randomly completely drops when a new group of AI a/c is spawned.

Bailing out makes your plane disappear on any server running the latest beta.

Landed planes over enemy territory do not count as a kill.

Landing over enemy territory will keep your plane on ground for a long time (no despawn). Any AI AAA Gun in the area will fire at that plane and not pick up other targets.

Significant lag on a server when you leave it. You can sometimes watch from the server list screen, how your name will only be removed from the server after a couple of minutes.

jimbop 05-08-2011 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElAurens (Post 280099)
This title needs at least six months to a year's constant development to be at a point where it is fit for release. Do you really you think 1C is going to keep bleeding Rubles for that long?

Depends on how solid they think the mid-long term business plan is I guess. With a couple of steam sales to bring in volume followed by paid DLC expansions 1C could have a nice earner. OM's leaving is certainly ominous, though.

jimbop 05-08-2011 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElAurens (Post 280099)
It's a rushed (after 6 years?) Alpha build. Nothing more.

Whilst I agree that CoD is not ready for market (more like beta I think) I am not sure this means the whole endeavour is doomed to fail. I get the feeling that the original vision for CoD was breathtakingly ambitious; I.e. to build an engine fully capable of simulating much more than flight. Whilst admirable in scope the devs evidently didn't focus nearly hard enough on the critically important flight sim elements. Almost like they were trying to get two for the price of one out of the development funding.

The question now is how long it will take to polish the important elements of the flight sim. Frankly, I'm encouraged by the last few weeks. Sure, lots of problems but also lots of progress.

LcSummers 05-08-2011 05:49 AM

[QUOTE=anavas44;279897]I'm very sad to say this, but with the latest beta patch I only get "Launcher.exe has detected a problem and it will close" and can't play.

The same here!!!!!!

Maybe i have something set wrong in Nvidia s settings. Wich are the best settings, or what do i have to enable or what must i disable?


CORRECTION!!!!!!

Hi W0ef,

thanks to your guide i managed to play the sim (single player mission) without any crashes. It seems that i did not set conf.ini to default at all. So i deleted it started this great sim again. Now it is working well.

I think there should be an extra topic with HOW TO INSTALL BETA PATCHES CORRECTLY!!!

Thanks once again and S!

PS: Here i want to thank you all (members too) who are supporting, testing and helping us simmers tomake this sim working at all!

klem 05-08-2011 08:40 AM

Screenshots
 
I wanted to post some screen shots of flaws in the landscape over pas de calais under this patch (they may already have existed) but the screen shots didn't get saved to my \1C Soft Club\CoD\screenshots\ folder.

EDIT: Just to be clear, my screen shots did save under the \1C Soft Club\CoD\screenshots\ folder up to 28th april which was the date of the first of the two recent beta patches, i.e. the two patches released after the last Steam patch update. According to file dates and times my last screenshots were before that first beta patch download time so I think it's a problem with both the new patches.

Is this a bug or has the folder been moved?

mazex 05-08-2011 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luftrofl (Post 280100)
If that's true, which is unlikely, then Lego Star Wars much be horribly optimized just like CoD. It's ridiculous to expect people to have one of the top 10 graphics cards available considering what the published system requirements are.

Only when(IF EVER) this game is taking full advantage of the resources it's given can anyone make claims as to what graphics cards should or shouldn't work with it.

Well, he complains of stuttering in some situations with large mechs etc, but it works fine most of the time... Recognize that from somewhere (and we are talking Lego Clone Wars 3, the previous Lego games work OK).

Anyway - the thing that makes people think these days that three year old budget cards should work fine in a modern "high spec game" like this are living under the umbrella created by Xbox360/PS3 limitations that has stopped serious pushing of the PC envelope the last years. CoD has maps with a size and density that is totally out of the Xbox/PS3 scope - even tough there is a lot of optimizing to do I think the patches has proven that it will be possible to fix the engine to a really nice state soon.

When IL2 came out I had this rig:

Asus A7M266 Motherboard - 512Mb PC2100 DDR - Athlon Thunderbird 1.33 Ghz - Geforce 3 64Mb

I never remember any of the performance problems people where talking about when IL2 came out on that monster rig ;)

Back then the Nvidia Riva TNT 1 was less than three years old - and anyone trying to run IL2 on a TNT 1 would not be taken seriously if he/she said they had bad performance and where "forced" to upgrade.

Luftrofl 05-08-2011 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mazex (Post 280157)
Anyway - the thing that makes people think these days that three year old budget cards should work fine in a modern "high spec game" like this are living under the umbrella created by Xbox360/PS3 limitations that has stopped serious pushing of the PC envelope the last years. CoD has maps with a size and density that is totally out of the Xbox/PS3 scope - even tough there is a lot of optimizing to do I think the patches has proven that it will be possible to fix the engine to a really nice state soon.

No.

*SUPPORTED VIDEO CARDS AT TIME OF RELEASE:

ATI® 4850/4870/5830/5850/5770/5870/6870/6950/6970

NVidia®: 8800/9800/250/260/275/285/460/465/470/480

Anyone with a graphics card better than those listed has a right to be pissed that the game is stuttering and crashing on them. If the game can not be optimized to a point where these cards will work, then IMO the devs have some explaining and apologizing to do. I don't expect a 4850 to play with max settings of course, but get real, this game is not nearly optimized to the point it should be. Telling people to buy more expensive hardware to make up for shortcomings in the game code is ridiculous.

Consoles have nothing to do with people being let down. Some are reporting as bad, or worse performance with this patch than previous versions. THAT is what has people discouraged. The patches HAVE NOT proven anything to those guys. I can play the game pretty well on high with some stuttering, but that doesn't mean it won't be worse next patch. To be going DOWN in performance has to be discouraging.

I think they will get the game ironed out eventually, but don't tell people who meet the minimum requirements and still can't play the game on lowest settings(which look like garbage) that it's their computers fault.

Langnasen 05-08-2011 09:36 AM

I can run the game maxed out, but it looks rough and is not smooth on the deck, regardless of 30fps. But worse than any of that is I get screen lock-ups and have to use task manager to get out. This is on a fresh install of W7-64 on an SSD.

mayestdo 05-08-2011 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luftrofl (Post 280171)
No.

*SUPPORTED VIDEO CARDS AT TIME OF RELEASE:

ATI® 4850/4870/5830/5850/5770/5870/6870/6950/6970

NVidia®: 8800/9800/250/260/275/285/460/465/470/480

Anyone with a graphics card better than those listed has a right to be pissed that the game is stuttering and crashing on them. If the game can not be optimized to a point where these cards will work, then IMO the devs have some explaining and apologizing to do. I don't expect a 4850 to play with max settings of course, but get real, this game is not nearly optimized to the point it should be. Telling people to buy more expensive hardware to make up for shortcomings in the game code is ridiculous.

Consoles have nothing to do with people being let down. Some are reporting as bad, or worse performance with this patch than previous versions. THAT is what has people discouraged. The patches HAVE NOT proven anything to those guys. I can play the game pretty well on high with some stuttering, but that doesn't mean it won't be worse next patch. To be going DOWN in performance has to be discouraging.

I think they will get the game ironed out eventually, but don't tell people who meet the minimum requirements and still can't play the game on lowest settings(which look like garbage) that it's their computers fault.

1+ I've got a Phenom II 1090T, 8 Gb RAM DDR 3 and nVidia GTX 480 and my rig struggles hard to play this sim but most times it fails. Stutters make my sim experience unacceptable. Like other people, I give up. I paid for a finished and optimized game, not for this alpha I purchased. I (and the rest of my squadron mates) are totally frustrated and unhappy. And the worst, we can't see a happy ending... :(

addman 05-08-2011 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mazex (Post 280157)
Well, he complains of stuttering in some situations with large mechs etc, but it works fine most of the time... Recognize that from somewhere (and we are talking Lego Clone Wars 3, the previous Lego games work OK).

Anyway - the thing that makes people think these days that three year old budget cards should work fine in a modern "high spec game" like this are living under the umbrella created by Xbox360/PS3 limitations that has stopped serious pushing of the PC envelope the last years. CoD has maps with a size and density that is totally out of the Xbox/PS3 scope - even tough there is a lot of optimizing to do I think the patches has proven that it will be possible to fix the engine to a really nice state soon.

When IL2 came out I had this rig:

Asus A7M266 Motherboard - 512Mb PC2100 DDR - Athlon Thunderbird 1.33 Ghz - Geforce 3 64Mb

I never remember any of the performance problems people where talking about when IL2 came out on that monster rig ;)

Back then the Nvidia Riva TNT 1 was less than three years old - and anyone trying to run IL2 on a TNT 1 would not be taken seriously if he/she said they had bad performance and where "forced" to upgrade.

I had an Athlon 900Mhz 512MB PC133 SDRAM Geforce 2MX 32MB rig when IL-2 demo was released, it ran ok at "medium settings" IIRC. Upgraded my GF2 to an Elsa Gladiac GeForce3 64MB just before IL-2 was released and it ran really well actually with most settings on "high". I don't care what some people seems to recall but I don't recall IL-2 being anywhere near the bad shape as CloD was on release.

ReconNZ 05-08-2011 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElAurens (Post 280099)
Troll?

How dare you.

I've been at this longer than you son. I've beta tested for the dev team in the past, I've beta tested for TD, I've flown every single version, map, plane, mission type, offline and on, since 2001. And not once in that time have I ever felt so let down as I have with Cliffs of Dover. It's a rushed (after 6 years?) Alpha build. Nothing more.

The patches fix one thing and break two more. NO substantial progress is being made. If you think so then you are nothing more than a hopeless fan boy. And I should know, I once was a fan boy of Oleg's work myself. But Oleg is out of the picture and IL2 is dead.

This title needs at least six months to a year's constant development to be at a point where it is fit for release. Do you really you think 1C is going to keep bleeding Rubles for that long?

Illya has less than a month to pull this off.

I frankly don't think it's possible.

And if you think I am happy about that, then you really have no clue.


Dude, chill out. Once again people need a sense of perspective. I went to see Fast and Furious 5 last night with the fiance. After tickets, parking and popcorn, it cost more than I have spent on ClofD. It sucked big time. I'm not about to go on the ff5 forums requesting my money back and venting how ive been a loyal fan since the original fast and the furious am I?

Just be thankful that the Devs are working to improve their product, grab a beer and have some patience, all will be resolved in time, the sky isnt falling Dude, just chill out and It'll all come good.

Steuben 05-08-2011 12:50 PM

After resetting the game to the last steam patch! Deleting the cache folder and config.ini and then reinstalled the beta patch i get really good fps even over Cherbourg. But only when i play offline! The beta patch ruined the Multiplayer part of the game once again. Stuttering, freezes, Sound is bugged heavily, Weird behaviour of the 109. I have the impression the 109 has two different FM online and offline is a huge difference (stalled at 350 when you get into a not even very sharp turn).

So offline the game runs ok for me. A decent campaign (maybe third party like desastersoft) and iam happy! But the Multiplayer part needs some seriuos work. I want the coop modus like in IL2 to fly with my old squadron mates from I/JG53. Pleeeease
My system: AMD 1055T overclocked to 1090T, 8 gb Corsair extreme DDR ram, 5870 1 Gb Vapor-X!

Elixx 05-08-2011 02:10 PM

Is it just me or does this game run alot worse after patch?

I actually put this game aside as for 3 weeks after release this game was still a joke. I tested the alst patch with run alot faster then this one does :( I could actually fly over london last patch, now i can but it sucks :/ Checkinh in again after a few patches.

Edit: Nevermind :D i just tried turning all to verry high, but buildings that is on high. I runs mutch better then it used to do. :) Fully playable over london with this settings.

mazex 05-08-2011 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luftrofl (Post 280171)
No.

*SUPPORTED VIDEO CARDS AT TIME OF RELEASE:

ATI® 4850/4870/5830/5850/5770/5870/6870/6950/6970

NVidia®: 8800/9800/250/260/275/285/460/465/470/480

Anyone with a graphics card better than those listed has a right to be pissed that the game is stuttering and crashing on them. If the game can not be optimized to a point where these cards will work, then IMO the devs have some explaining and apologizing to do. I don't expect a 4850 to play with max settings of course, but get real, this game is not nearly optimized to the point it should be. Telling people to buy more expensive hardware to make up for shortcomings in the game code is ridiculous.

Consoles have nothing to do with people being let down. Some are reporting as bad, or worse performance with this patch than previous versions. THAT is what has people discouraged. The patches HAVE NOT proven anything to those guys. I can play the game pretty well on high with some stuttering, but that doesn't mean it won't be worse next patch. To be going DOWN in performance has to be discouraging.

I think they will get the game ironed out eventually, but don't tell people who meet the minimum requirements and still can't play the game on lowest settings(which look like garbage) that it's their computers fault.

Well sorry if I sounded a bit harsh on hardware that runs most games fine - I just pulled out the old memories from the days when you had to change hardware in less than 24 months to be able to play any new game with resonable fps ;)

The reason I have been running a Core 2 Duo with a GTX275 card so long is that the need to upgrade has never been that bad. All the fps shooters that are cross developed for PC/Xbox/PS3 with multi million budgets run real nice on high settings on my current/old rig as I'm in transition right now...

The REAL reason I upgrade is actually not because of CoD even though I thought that would be the game that would force me to upgrade but RoF!

RoF runs like crap on my Core 2 Duo with Windows 7 x64. Talk about stuttering! Like CoD on release day for me. When I run it on XP32 it runs just fine but dual core and Windows 7 x64 is a combination that simply don't work for a lot of RoF-users (though some have a combination that seems to work). Jason himself has answered me that they have tried a number of things but for Windows 7 x64 they don't recommend a dual core to run RoF...

And talking about the mega fast beta patches we have got since the release version they have really fixed the game for me and a lot of others. On my 3-4 year old rig I can now run on "high" default settings with 30+ in fps and no stuttering at all. The release version was awful with micro stutters everywhere. Under the pressure they have been it obviously seems like a lot of hardware/driver combinations don't work, mainly ATI/AMD GPU users? The thing is that the beta patches have proven to me that they don't need to pick up an axe and remove half of the trees / buildings to get it working on my old rig - so with some tuning for ATI users I am sure they will get the same results...

Just have some faith! If they can double the fps on my old rig and remove the stuttering - I am sure they will fix it for the ones suffering right now. My old GTX275 is not that much faster than a HD4850...

Pyrres 05-08-2011 03:42 PM

I get more and more graphical bugs when looking at land. Especially at when looking at water near shores. Light brown lines and tiles at shores and in rivers. Plus weird black corruptions on the sides on the screen especially when looking at land when diving/banked. Can´t show pictures because screenshot feature is broken. Both of these bugs were in last paches but are now much more common.

But the stutters that came with old betapatch are gone and FPS went up. Now playable with over 80+ planes in the air over London with flak firing away. So performance went up but a few graphical gliches came with the FPS boost. Windows also wants to swich to Windows basic from aero now and then. Oh and the game crashing to desktop happens now much less (happened only with the last beta pach).

Eshark 05-08-2011 03:58 PM

~S~All
Sorry to say performance down
block graphics over water
and cannot leave the muliplayer servers using the exit button
~S~Eshark

os windows 7 64 bit
cpu i5 650@ 3.20 ghz
gpu geforce gtx 560 ti
8 gb ram

Srinidhalaya 05-08-2011 04:17 PM

Asus P8P67 Deluxe Rev 3.0
Intel 2600k 3.4ghz
Asus 580gtx 1.5gig
3tb HDD @ 6gig/sec
1200w Antec PSU OC edition
8gig Cosair RAM @ 1600mhz


Prior to patch:
Settings maxed
Average 80-120fps over water
Average 60-90fps over land and cities
Average 49fps Black Death recording
No graphics anomalies
No Audio anomalies
No interface problems

Installed beta patch:
Same settings
Drastic reduction in FPS over land and water
Over land, big green circles in the form of a grid appear
Over water, big squares of grass appear in the form of a grid
Audio will chop out and back on
Exit button no longer works in multiplayer servers, required to end proccess to close launcher.exe, ending application does not work

Thee_oddball 05-08-2011 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Srinidhalaya (Post 280306)
Asus P8P67 Deluxe Rev 3.0
Intel 2600k 3.4ghz
Asus 580gtx 1.5gig
3tb HDD @ 6gig/sec
1200w Antec PSU OC edition
8gig Cosair RAM @ 1600mhz


Prior to patch:
Settings maxed
Average 80-120fps over water
Average 60-90fps over land and cities
Average 49fps Black Death recording
No graphics anomalies
No Audio anomalies
No interface problems

Installed beta patch:
Same settings
Drastic reduction in FPS over land and water
Over land, big green circles in the form of a grid appear
Over water, big squares of grass appear in the form of a grid
Audio will chop out and back on
Exit button no longer works in multiplayer servers, required to end proccess to close launcher.exe, ending application does not work

i think you need todo a FRESH patch install, do a file integrity check and then delete your ccahe and install patch again

Pyrres 05-08-2011 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thee_oddball (Post 280308)
i think you need todo a FRESH patch install, do a file integrity check and then delete your ccahe and install patch again

That actually helped my FPS quite much. I went to last official patch and then added the newest beta over that. I first tried installing it over the last beta patch and things went ok but FPS was not as good as it is now.

Thee_oddball 05-08-2011 06:05 PM

ok...so far 214 patch wont even launch (plane appears for as split second then nothing) and this latest patch begins to load but then i am stuck at a window that is half black (bottom) and the top looks like the sky from the game...plus i see a throttle indicator in the lower left corner...it looks like the game is trying to launch me right into a mission??? and at the point i have to use task manger to end the game.

I have put this patch in over a fresh install of the official one i have deleted the consents of cache folder and deleted the conf file in both folder which resulted in a launcher error....

anyone else have this happen?

Siko 05-08-2011 07:02 PM

Installed patch, massive improvement for me in terms of FPS and graphics (ie I can turn the options up), Cherbourg/London ran flawlessly at 1600x1050 (I think!) and most options to med/Hi.

Only snag was the dreaded "no esc" to quit ie CLoD crashes and you have to use task manager to quit it and restart. Real shame as this was a big leap forward for me. I have now rolled back via Steam to the last official patch and it is a real backwards step. what was worryin was it took Steam about 5 attempts to roll it back (despite telling me it had been done)....probably me but then again....

F16_Neo 05-08-2011 08:33 PM

Exit button won't work online.
Fps fine, did not compare with pre-patch though.
Stutters really bad, almost as bad as at release. Not building-related as before, I think.
Will put on shelf until fixed.
GF580, i7 2600K, 16GB Ram.

Gromic 05-08-2011 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by F16_Neo (Post 280413)
Exit button won't work online.
Fps fine, did not compare with pre-patch though.
Stutters really bad, almost as bad as at release. Not building-related as before, I think.
Will put on shelf until fixed.
GF580, i7 2600K, 16GB Ram.

Why don't you just roll back to the last official patch (per instructions on these forums) and then install the 14305 beta or the one before that? 14413 is known for its multiplayer issues. It's no secret.

With your kit, which is more than adequate, it would be a shame to resignate because of the flaws of a beta patch. That's why its called a beta.

Cheers

phoenix1963 05-08-2011 08:51 PM

It seems it is possible to become disconnected from an online server and drop back to the menu screen, but on hitting Fly, one appears to be back in the server, with the same games stats info, but not actually connected!

56RAF_phoenix

F16_Neo 05-08-2011 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gromic (Post 280419)
With your kit, which is more than adequate, it would be a shame to resignate because of the flaws of a beta patch. That's why its called a beta.

Cheers

I'll roll back if bad weather occur before good patch. :)
Just didn't expect to see the stutters again... They'll fix it hopefully next official.

shabir 05-09-2011 08:33 AM

the patch is installed the beta I played a couple of days. Yesterday fires and nothing!. at the very beginning when you try to load a program (where the viewfinder) and the screen fades sharply lower on your task bar dims like it sucked all the electricity haha. Of course, error message pops up and end. it looks as if the night off from one another pc the same thing went wrong

roadczar 05-09-2011 12:03 PM

Not working for me. Using Latest video drivers. At medium graphic levels I’m getting 60 FPS over water sightseeing. As soon as more panes are added FPS oscillates 20 – 60 FPS with bad stuttering. Sightseeing over London FPS oscillates 5 – 50 FPS with unplayable stuttering and flickering.

To summarize: with this patch it is unplayable.

1C/luthier: I have a unique high-end hardware and over 20 years of IT development and management experience; let me know if you need me to test something.

JG5_emil 05-09-2011 12:30 PM

I have only one major complaint, this patch has improved things for me to no end and I now for the first time can play in my native resolution with my gaming laptop.

However since the introduction of FFB and as there is no external support for my old MS FFB2 I cannot switch off FFB. The best I can do it remove all the files apart from SPRING from the Core/FF file.

Maybe I am one of the few that dislike FFB but the game has become much less enjoyable now. Before I just had the centring force without the juddering and shaking and I would dearly love to be able to have that back otherwise I'm going to have to buy a new stick.

Asus G73S
Intel Core i7 2630QM 2 GHz (turbo to 2.8 GHz)
Geforce GTX 460M (1.5 GB VRAM)
8 Gig RAM
Win 7 Ultimate

janpitor 05-09-2011 03:47 PM

as you said...just delete the files

Lensman_1 05-09-2011 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JG5_emil (Post 280650)
However since the introduction of FFB and as there is no external support for my old MS FFB2 I cannot switch off FFB. The best I can do it remove all the files apart from SPRING from the Core/FF file.

Maybe I am one of the few that dislike FFB but the game has become much less enjoyable now. Before I just had the centring force without the juddering and shaking and I would dearly love to be able to have that back otherwise I'm going to have to buy a new stick.

If your MS FFB2 is in good condition I'd happily buy it off you because I desire FFB so much. I'll bet that applies to many people here (I already own 2 of them by the way but as they're no longer manufactured I need backups).

Hatch 05-09-2011 07:25 PM

No problems whatsoever.
Game runs smooth albeit slow but that's because I like my eyecandy and probably need an upgrade GPU wise.

Win 7 64.
Intel i7-860
Avast anti virus.

Hardly ever have problems software wise , unless it's my own stupid fault.
But I'm usually aware of that.

skouras 05-09-2011 07:43 PM

when i select one of the new missions a german ME 109 from the airfields --the aircraft from the menu on the right side most ---after take off i've got a crash

HamishUK 05-09-2011 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by skouras (Post 280903)
when i select one of the new missions a german ME 109 from the airfields --the aircraft from the menu on the right side most ---after take off i've got a crash

BF109 :rolleyes:

41Sqn_Stormcrow 05-09-2011 08:59 PM

We need absolutely and very quick a fix for the uber AI. It is a REAL FUN KILLER and because of it I am on the brick to abandon this game. The AI as it is now (making 50 kmh more than me and with uber engines that don't overheat and rolling like mad) is turning the single player game into just a source of anger (mildly spoken). And just going for bombers is no fun.


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