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raaaid 03-05-2012 02:46 PM

well i got a maximum and minimum eficiency to canclulate the title x , the amount of vapur and the amount of liquid would be very difficult

but my calculation shows that even in the worse of cases it has a bigger eficiency than karnot

but any way its not the eficiency

ITS THAT IT CAN WORK WITH 2 DEGREE GRADIENT

how about this two mixtured:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs_OtCsDJoY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elfNY...eature=related

JG52Krupi 03-05-2012 03:12 PM

Dont try and change the topic!!

So far you have given an efficiency of 5% to 95% not exactly inspiring, your mathematics look like something from a primary school maths book rather than a thermodynamics text book... If you really believe in this design prove it!

swiss 03-05-2012 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi (Post 396773)
Dont try and change the topic!!

So far you have given an efficiency of 5% to 95% not exactly inspiring, your mathematics look like something from a primary school maths book rather than a thermodynamics text book... If you really believe in this design prove it!

Wait.
Did you see this:
Quote:

if it filtered to the wiki is cause things are changing due to the 2012 effect of next leap of evolution
?


We should both be shot for replying. :(

JG52Uther 03-05-2012 05:25 PM

You have nobody to blame but yourselves for getting dragged in...;)

JG52Krupi 03-05-2012 06:13 PM

I decided to argue this time as I hope it will stop him from posting rubbish like this in the future.... yeah I don't have much faith in that idea ;)

These conspiracy theorist get on my nerves now and again...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvKIWjnEPNY

WTE_Galway 03-06-2012 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi (Post 396813)
These conspiracy theorist get on my nerves now and again...

@Krupi ... raaid is not your normal conspiracy theorist, he believes publishing material in a thermodynamics texts rather than on Youtube constitutes suppression :D



Raaaid ... solar powered steam engines of all types are not new, and building them is in fact something of a hobby among mechanically oriented alternative types, I would not be surprised if there were "solar steam engine" competitions out there


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEnqQxFeS74

raaaid 03-06-2012 11:51 AM

thats interesting gal

but then why not getting electricity from those to feed electric cars

biggest bussines in the world: weapons

2nd: drugs

3rd: i guess petrol

thjen could be a minority shaping the world to their liking when it should be a much nicer place?

no more wars

free drugs

solar energy and ban burning petrol

Outlaw 03-06-2012 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raaaid (Post 396744)
well outlaw so you belive i did study thermo...

No I don't. In fact, I specifically noted "imaginary" thermodynamic classes.

It's obvious you didn't study because, according to your subject line, you spent FIVE YEARS doing so. If everything you have said about your education is true you should have 5 or 6 degrees by now. You don't have any. And no, English philology or whatever the hell it is you claim can't possibly be a degree program. If it is, it's in the same class as a degree in stained glass or Russian studies - ie, useless).

--Outlaw.

raaaid 03-06-2012 12:45 PM

yeah well the subject lasted 1 year but i repeated 4 times since it was very tuff

are you afraid of someone you look down on having same or more preparation than you?

tell me whats wrong in this then:


the vapur pressure differnce bewteen top and bottom with a gradient of five degrees its 100 kpa

this means the wheel can work with 10 m diametrum on a 5 º gradient

how much work is that for kg of r12?

1*10*10=100 J

whats the internal energy difference for 5 º WITH R12

http://energy.sdsu.edu/testhome/Test...C/TSatR12.html
around 2000 J/kg in the best case

around 5000 j/kg in the worst case


U variation=Q-W
2000=Q-100


Q=2100


eficiency=w/q=100/2100=4.7% eficiency
in the worst case: 100/5100=2%

maximum eficiency for carnot?


1-cold focus/hot focus=1.3%

JG52Krupi 03-06-2012 12:55 PM

Because it just is not that simple you may have studied it 5 times but you clearly still haven't learnt it, I suggest you try again.

Yes we can at least agree thermodynamics is a tough topic but then that goes on to prove that your primary school calculations are nowhere near the complexity required to work out thermodynamic engine efficiency... If you had studied it then you would admit that at least wtf...


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