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It's not about pirate bay or intellectual theft...

It's about taking over communication between people.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gyivhkllMA

Radical extremists can't take over the country while allowing free speech to flourish.

Mark Lloyd = http://radio.about.com/od/miscellane...Mark-Lloyd.htm

I regret saying this. If this goes down and gets approved. You watch the EU and other countries fall into the same line.

This is a biggy of the worst sort.

A Saudi shiek just bought a 300,000,000 interest in Twitter. Why? Twitter and Facebook were the communication mechanism in the middle east revolutions in Egypt, Yemen, etc,etc.
Saudi Arabia has enormous oil reserves. The extremists want to get hold of that country with all that oil wealth to wage their jihad?

The facts aren't all in yet, but if the extremists get control in Libya... look out, because Libya has 9th largest oil reserves in the world. All that oil means lots of money to wage the Jihad.

The internet is the free press of the entire world right now, except for China and a few others. Control the press and communication between the people is imperative to radicals.

So yes! This legislation can have world changing impact on freedom of speech worldwide.

I'm always amazed at the naivete of people who believe themselves to be smarter than everyone else. How freaking long can people really keep blaming George Bush for the failures of the present (and the past) administrations? Good job keeping this thread non political. The Socialists will get their wish and take this republic apart piece by piece, then blame the conservatives for the inevitable collapse. The sad part is that the inept bureaucracy and broken political system that is facilitating the whole thing so very well will have no idea what happened....... and neither will the majority of Americans.

I guess we deserve you Euro's derision. Good luck with your own inevitable collapse.

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Originally Posted by BadAim (Post 381943)

The sad part is that the inept bureaucracy and broken political system that is facilitating the whole thing so very well will have no idea what happened....... and neither will the majority of Americans.

You are right on target BadAim...

There should be no cause for derision by EU, because the EU house of cards is falling as well.

In fact, the entire world is on the Central banking system's "FIAT MONEY".

Every country in the world has no collateral supporting it's money. The entire world's money supply is nothing, but promissory notes.

The Central banks have made us all brothers holding each others IOUs.

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I just got this email thought it might interest some of you

Thank you so so much for joining the fight against SOPA and PIPA today! You are a part of the largest online protest in history.

Because of you, we really might win this fight to protect our freedoms-- but we haven't won yet.

Please, do these three things right now to make the strike even bigger:

1. Forward this email to as many friends as possible! Make sure they watch this video <http://fightforthefuture.org/pipa/> .

2. Post to twitter <https://twitter.com/share?text=Join%20the%20largest%20online%20protest %20of%20all%20time%20-%20don't%20censor%20the%20internet!%20sopastrike.c om%20%23SOPASTRIKE> and post to facebook <https://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?...sopastrike.com> - you can also follow us on Twitter <http://twitter.com/fightfortheftr> if you want more breaking news.

Thank you again -- and stay tuned for more updates as we get ready for the next vote in Congress.

- Fight for the Future - this video really turns the light on

PIPA VIDEO <http://fightforthefuture.org/pipa>

or here on Vimeo

http://vimeo.com/31100268

Crazy ain't it.....everybody owes everybody else with interest and all the money owed doesn't even exist....or something like that.

http://www.mercurynews.com/nation-wo...444?source=rss

http://www.businessinsider.com/megau...ut-down-2012-1

Getting serious .. people need to react..!

This should be the People flag !!!......
http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp344/GOZR/frog.gif
Revolution !!!!!!

Just my two cents, besides the fact that the suggested bills are an abomination:

The biggest problem in the US seems to be the unavailability of complete, neutral, factual and easily accessable news. The news media in the US are worse than bad, imo mostly because they are for profit companies.

Moreso than who controls money, who controls information is in power.

It is not that americans are stupid or do not care. When I came to US more than 15 years ago I immediately felt cut off from the rest of the world newswise, it's like living in a bubble or on another planet and it has gotten worse over time for sure.

The other thing is that americans actually felt they were making a change for the better for themselves and for the world by voting for Obama, or at least roughly half of the US, the other half is still stuck in their view that a country/government has to be run like a business and that capitalism = freedom and make their voting decision dependant on the candidates stand on gay marriage, abortion rights and religion while in the middle of two wars ( I remember the horrid 2004 presidential campaign).
And nobody can tell me that 8 years of George did not do their good part to transport the US and in consequence the world into the economic toilet. There are many who believe this was deliberate and targeted at the destruction of the middle class, since a strong middle class is a big factor in having an actually free people.

But alas nothing got better, the powers to be in the US are probably way beyond the grasp and control of the people and brick by brick, little by little, noticed or unoticed, freedom is being dismantled.
There are a lot of people here in the US who are dissatisfied, desperate and angry (pretty much everybody in my workplace) and yet feel powerless to change things and take control over their fortunes. If voting does nothing then what does?

The proposed legislation will not pass, this time, but the proposed measures will come back in one way or another. The control of the flow of information and the masses is way to important.

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Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha (Post 381478)

Ok firstly let not get too political but discuss the ramifications of the effect on media sites.

Anyone signed up yet ?

http://americancensorship.org/

can't do that, this is a political issue from surface to core; information control (of any sort) is, along with repression, a fascist's government main weapon and censorship is the prime ammunition

So, megaupload is gone, expect more sights to follow. The 'net is changing in a big way.

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...But alas nothing got better, the powers to be in the US are probably way beyond the grasp and control of the people and brick by brick, little by little, noticed or unoticed, freedom is being dismantled.
There are a lot of people here in the US who are dissatisfied, desperate and angry (pretty much everybody in my workplace) and yet feel powerless to change things and take control over their fortunes. If voting does nothing then what does?
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Your previous comments aside, this part is beyond true.
My post over at SAS, as i am too lazy to re-type it!

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And here is the great part!
I wrote three of my representatives in the last week. Jeff Denham (R-CA), Barbara "Hope she dies in a fire" Boxer (D-CA), and Dianne Feinstein (D-CA)( >:().
Representative of the two political parties here in the US.
From Jeff Denham:

"Dear Mr. Dotson,

Thank you for your letter regarding intellectual property rights and content piracy online. I appreciate hearing your thoughts on this issue and your opposition to the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA), H.R. 3261.

Online content piracy is a major challenge to our intellectual property protection and is illegal. While the scale is difficult to gauge it is clear that piracy is a major cause of lost revenue for American firms both domestically and internationally.

It is extremely important that we continue to proactively take the steps necessary to ensure artists will keep producing the work that we all enjoy by protecting their copyrights from piracy. At the same time, we must always be wary of government regulation– especially in the ever-changing and expanding internet world. We must be careful that in our attempts to protect content and stop piracy, we must not unnecessarily hinder technological advancements and innovation.

On October 26, 2011, Representative Lamar Smith (R-TX) introduced H.R. 3261. This bill aims to promote prosperity, creativity, and entrepreneurship by combating the theft of intellectual property. It would make additional enhancements of federal law to combat property theft. Like you, I have serious concerns with SOPA as it currently stands. The language is broad and could have serious unintended consequences. Congress needs to work with the technology and user communities to craft laws that protect against piracy without hampering innovation... "

And from Dianne Feinstein:

''Dear Mr. Dotson :

I received your letter expressing opposition to the "Preventing Real Online Threats to Economic Creativity and Theft of Intellectual Property Act," commonly known as the "PROTECT IP Act." I appreciate knowing your views on this matter.

The "PROTECT IP Act" (S. 968) gives both copyright and trademark owners and the U.S. Department of Justice the authority to take action against websites that are "dedicated to infringing activities." These are websites that have "no significant use other than engaging in, enabling, or facilitating" copyright infringement, the sale of goods with a counterfeit trademark, or the evasion of technological measures designed to protect against copying.

The bill does not violate First Amendment rights to free speech because copyright piracy is not speech.

America's copyright industry is an important economic engine, and I believe copyright owners should be able to prevent their works from being illegally duplicated and stolen. The protection of intellectual property is particularly vital to California's thriving film, music, and high-technology industries.

I understand you have concerns about the "PROTECT IP Act." While I voted in favor of this bill when it was before the Senate Judiciary Committee, I have also been working with California high-technology businesses to improve the bill and to address the concerns of high-tech businesses, public interest groups and others. I recognize the bill needs further changes to prevent it from imposing undue burdens on legitimate businesses and activities, and I will be working to make the improvements, either by working with Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy (D-VT) or through amendments on the Senate floor.

On May 26, 2011, the Senate Judiciary Committee passed the "PROTECT IP Act" for consideration by the full Senate. Please know I will keep your concerns and thoughts in mind should the Senate proceed to a vote on this legislation. As you may be aware, Representative Lamar Smith (R-TX) has introduced similar legislation, the "Stop Online Piracy Act" (H.R. 3261), in the House of Representatives...''

Boxer has yet to reply, but I doubt I will receive anything different from that simpering socialist ninny.

What a crock!

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Originally Posted by nearmiss (Post 381934)

It's not about pirate bay or intellectual theft...

The internet is the free press of the entire world right now, except for China and a few others. Control the press and communication between the people is imperative to radicals.

So yes! This legislation can have world changing impact on freedom of speech worldwide.

You've nailed what is really all about...

A tamer but similar "Government initiative" is underway down here in Australia, with Government attempting to install a "'net filter". Basically, its a URL lock out list employed at ISP level, kept in secret and in reality - open to all sorts of manipulation.
This was being instigated under the old cry of "protecting the kiddies"... trouble is it doesn't do that anywhere near effectively, not even loosely effectively.

Controlling the Press, is key to keeping the public under control and under thumb... lack of proper education being another tool used to "keep the people down", as it were.

George Orwell wrote a book about what is happening... it is titled "Animal Farm". It is a marvelous, eye opening read (and no, its not an expose on socialism per se), it is an expose on "government" and the corruption of and subsequent abuse of power.
Lack of education, makes it easy to change the rules whilst saying the rules are what the citizens respond to best... lack of clear facts (news, etc) feed Chinese Whispers and the two together, make it easy generate fear and sew doubt. We're at the stage now, where the tower has been destroyed by the shadowy militant inhibitants of the farm next door, that no citizen has ever seen, and has to be rebuilt twice as thick, Snowball has been chased off and the pups are about to start tearing out the throats of those who speak out.