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ATAG_Doc 06-13-2011 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by WSP_Zoop (Post 295942)
Il-2 definitely runs better on Nividia than ATI using open GL.
I'm considering a new rig for CoD.
The best bang for the buck seems to be AMD and ATI.
However, on the last Vcard upgrade for IL-2 I bought ATI and had to change back to Nividia.
Is there a general consensus as to which brand of Vcard and CPU that works best with CoD.
I have not played CoD, I have it backordered at Ubishop and it has not been made available as yet.
Any help would be most appreciated.

Hey don't listen to them. Listen to me. ;)

ICDP 06-14-2011 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 335th_GRAthos (Post 296343)
Just picking up on what ICDP mentioned regarding the 570GTX, he is right!

I fly nicely at 3072x resolution SLI with 70+ fps no problems as long as my VRAM is not full.
e.g. REPKA server islands with all options grass, shadows, roads etc etc.

If I fly on a heavier map (REPKA server channel island), the moment my VRAM is filled up above 1240Mb, I have 30fps.
If I lower the eye candy (roads, shadows, grass=OFF) the my VRAM will go up to 1140Mb and I continue enjoying my 70fps.

So, no matter what kind of card you are going to choose, make sure you have 1,5Gb and more if you want to enjoy.

My next card(s) will have 3Gb VRAM for sure (I only need a rig to fly IL2 and CoD so this is the only requirement), I bet it will be available by next year.

~S~

PS: thanks for mentioning ICDP, it made go back and start testing....

I had a single GTX460 for a while and it is a great card at 1920x1080. I bought two more monitors and an extra GTX460 but at 6048x1080 they just could not handle the hit due to lack of VRAM. So I traded them in when the HD6970 came out and bought two of them. Two GTX580s were an option but I felt for the extra 10% performance at that resolution it was silly to spend and extra £240.

I always look at price/performance/features when making a graphics card purchase. When the GTX460 was released it was the best bang for buck so I bought one, then another. This time it was 2X HD6970s that got my vote.

335th_GRAthos 06-14-2011 05:09 PM

HD6970! yeaaah would have been an option, were it being produced by NVidia! :P


Just joking...

No, the bad news I read in that hardware review, the 3Gb 580GTX GPUs are there but they bring hardly any noticable performance advantage. So it is the next 1-2 generations of GPUs we need in order to see performance.

I will have to wait...

WSP_Zoop 07-04-2011 06:46 AM

Thank you all for the advice
 
I'm definitely going to go SB, probably i5_2500K and 2X GTX 570's in SLI. I'm not willing to gamble on AMD again and as Vengeance pointed out I'm not done with IL-2: 2-0 for Nvidia!
If CloD definitely runs better on Direct X rather than GL then there should be no issue, but as IL-2 is the only one of the two that I know of on line at this moment then I'm decided.
I want to thank everyone who responded to my querie. I very much appreciate it.

335th_GRAthos 07-04-2011 08:00 AM

Something more since you are preparing your order, take a look at my other post here
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...t=23302&page=2

And, since you mentioned 2 x GTX570 which is exactly the setup I have, my advice today:

I personally would buy two 580GTX 3GbVRAM if I would go to the shop today so, unless if you want to play very high resolution (3072x and higher) you should to buy a single GTX580 3Gb VRAM GPU.
Should cost the same or be cheaper than 2 x 570GTX
Wait for the game to support 3Renders (3 monitors), by then the prices of GTX580 will have dropped and you can buy your second GTX580 when you will really need it.

I say this because the 1380Mb VRAM of the GTX570 is always at the limit at the resolution I play (3072x1024) so I will always recommend more than 1380Mb VRAM (you can see screenshots of the 570GTX VRAM usage in my pictures on the "SLI Working" thread).

Still, the 580GTX is a medium term solution so you will need to buy a new card in a year or two.

My 2cts...

~S~

Flanker35M 07-04-2011 08:48 AM

S!

People should stop spreading false information about CoD. It runs at DirectX ONLY. Period. It was in beginning OpenGL, but switched to DirectX later on. So a DirectX capable card should run the title just fine AFTER the devs have fixed their code, after that AMD/nVidia can make applicable drivers/CAP etc.

Ataros 07-04-2011 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by 335th_GRAthos (Post 305362)
Still, the 580GTX is a medium term solution so you will need to buy a new card in a year or two.

Exactly. I think Battle of Moscow will not introduce much challenges but Battle of Stalingrad which may come next year will probably have at least some elements of new water, clouds and/or weather. 580 will be able to run it on medium settings but for those who can not settle for less than everything maxed out a nextgen card will suit better.

Since the 2 blue lines bug is fixed ATI 2GB vram 69xx series is a strong player again. As a medium term solution I would recommend going for 6950 flashed to 6970 and adding the 2nd one when/if needed depending on nextgen cards price/performance ratio and timing of Il-2 addons issue.

2x570 is a waste of money imho as it does not have enough memory to last long term and is too expensive as a med-term solution.

ps. BTW my 4890 runs original Il-2 in OpenGL fine without any artefacts.

WSP_Zoop 08-18-2011 05:35 PM

I did build a new system July 8, 2011 using the advice gained here.
i7 2600K
Corsair H80 cooler
Gigabyte Z68X-UD5-B3
EVGA GTX 580 3GB
G Skill F3 Sniper DDR-3 1866 2 x 4GB
Crucial M4 SSD 128GB SATA 3
Corsair AX 850
Windows 7 Pro 64 bit
I'm running graphics at very high settings. Never had a stutter so far. Haven't bothered with a FPS reading as yet. I'm quite happy with this setup. Specs are stock for now, but I will be overclocking the CPU and the GTX 580 in the next month or so.

Thank you to everyone for the input.

Rattlehead 08-18-2011 08:38 PM

Nice! I love the smell of new hardware.

tintifaxl 08-18-2011 08:43 PM

I recommend i7 2600k and a 3 Gig GTX580.

This is what runs CloD best at the moment. But maybe you should wait for the patch with the new graphics engine and decide then.

Edith: I just realized I beat a dead horse.


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