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Ancient Seraph 10-18-2009 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Crispus222 (Post 112075)
That's ridiculous! The problem is, you actually have to be able to do that. Next, you have no chance to pick a good field to land in. At least in a plane you have time and can actually go through procedures to save your life lol. Thanks for the info though... Where do you know this from though? Sorry to be a little skeptical but if you could provide a credible source or something that would be great?

The airport I go to school on also has schools for choppers. Talked to someone who went to school at one of those. Credible source... maybe not the most credible, but check this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autorotation_(helicopter)

MorgothNL 10-18-2009 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Crispus222 (Post 112075)
That's ridiculous! The problem is, you actually have to be able to do that. Next, you have no chance to pick a good field to land in. At least in a plane you have time and can actually go through procedures to save your life lol. Thanks for the info though... Where do you know this from though? Sorry to be a little skeptical but if you could provide a credible source or something that would be great?

It is true actually, I go to the same school as seraph, and the militairy helicopters often pratice engine failures (at 500ft above ground level or something). Must be a scary thing to do your first time though :P

flynlion 10-19-2009 12:59 AM

A helo with an engine failure is no more dangerous than a fixed wing with a similar problem. The main rotor continues to spin due to inertia and the air blowing through it (autorotation) and this generates enough lift to control the decent and make an emergency landing. True, the glide distance is not as great as with an airplane, but neither is the size of the field required. A good pilot can put it down safely in a remarkably small patch. Engine out procedures are something every pilot practices religeously, wheather they be civillian or military, rotary or fixed wing.

mattd27 10-19-2009 01:27 AM

How about some visuals? This one was very informative. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzWw5U3eCok

Crispus222 10-19-2009 03:12 AM

[QUOTE=mattd27;112089]How about some visuals? This one was very informative. :)

Thanks, for the video! That is absolutely insane. Although, I've done a forced approach from 1500 AGL and I had way more time because I'm in a plane and still have the same amount of lift. The big difference is that I had time to find a spot to put down, make a distress call (sudo of course...), emergency briefing for my passengers (my instructor...), as well as final shutdown. At least in a plane there's a little room for error (as small as it is lol...). But props to the pilot in that video for remaining a calm and collected as he did as well as handling the heli the way he did!

Seraph, Mogoth, do you guys got your licenses yet? Where are you guys based? I'm up in Alberta, Canada. Just got mine a couple weeks back (the test was soooo nerve racking lol).

Ancient Seraph 10-19-2009 10:32 AM

[QUOTE=Crispus222;112094]
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Originally Posted by mattd27 (Post 112089)
How about some visuals? This one was very informative. :)

Thanks, for the video! That is absolutely insane. Although, I've done a forced approach from 1500 AGL and I had way more time because I'm in a plane and still have the same amount of lift. The big difference is that I had time to find a spot to put down, make a distress call (sudo of course...), emergency briefing for my passengers (my instructor...), as well as final shutdown. At least in a plane there's a little room for error (as small as it is lol...). But props to the pilot in that video for remaining a calm and collected as he did as well as handling the heli the way he did!

Seraph, Mogoth, do you guys got your licenses yet? Where are you guys based? I'm up in Alberta, Canada. Just got mine a couple weeks back (the test was soooo nerve racking lol).

Nope. We're starting to fly our first retractable gear this week (Cessna 172RG), and in 2 or 3 weeks we should start flying Seneca. We're hoping to finish around februari. We're based at Madrid, Spain (LECU).

InfiniteStates 10-19-2009 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Voyager (Post 111953)
I recall a funny little anecdote...

That made me recall an anecdote I read a while ago. Sorry to derail your (very informative) thread, but... (It's quite old so you've probably seen it before, but for those that haven't)

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ACTUAL transcript of a US naval ship with Canadian authorities off the coast of Newfoundland in October, 1995. This radio conversation was released by the Chief of Naval Operations on 10-10-95

Americans: "Please divert your course 15 degrees to the North to avoid a collision."

Canadians: "Recommend you divert YOUR course 15 degrees to the South to avoid a collision."

Americans: "This is the captain of a US Navy ship. I say again, divert YOUR course."

Canadians: "No, I say again, you divert YOUR course."

Americans: "THIS IS THE AIRCRAFT CARRIER USS ABRAHAM LINCOLN, THE SECOND LARGEST SHIP IN THE UNITED STATES' ATLANTIC FLEET. WE ARE ACCOMPANIED BY THREE DESTROYERS, THREE CRUISERS AND NUMEROUS SUPPORT VESSELS. I DEMAND THAT YOU CHANGE YOUR COURSE 15 DEGREES NORTH. THAT'S ONE-FIVE DEGREES NORTH, OR COUNTER MEASURES WILL BE UNDERTAKEN TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF THIS SHIP."

Canadians: "This is a lighthouse. Your call.
And just to stay on topic slightly, my brother's godfather is a big cheese in the RAF's Chinooks (you know the giant twin blade tank carriers?). He will testify that you can "glide" in a helicopter as well.

xX-SiLeNcE-Xx 10-19-2009 03:43 PM

^^^
LOL! Americans and their powers. pssht.

Crispus222 10-19-2009 04:22 PM

[QUOTE=Ancient Seraph;112129]
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Originally Posted by Crispus222 (Post 112094)

Nope. We're starting to fly our first retractable gear this week (Cessna 172RG), and in 2 or 3 weeks we should start flying Seneca. We're hoping to finish around februari. We're based at Madrid, Spain (LECU).

That's pretty awesome man! At my school we got a 182RG. Pretty sick plane. But a seneca! Those are nice! Expensive though!

Ancient Seraph 10-19-2009 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Crispus222 (Post 112217)

That's pretty awesome man! At my school we got a 182RG. Pretty sick plane. But a seneca! Those are nice! Expensive though!

Yep, it's the plane we're doing our ME-rating on. We're going for the ATPL ;).


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