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mungee 10-02-2010 09:15 PM

I'm "taking the bait"!!
I feel that I must say something on the "niggle" that appears to be dominating the content of this thread at the moment!
You know, it's really the MANNER in which things are said that can "hurt", irritate, upset etc others.
I am, I suspect, relatively old when compared to most of the members of this forum, and I must point out (at great risk of being told to "get lost") that criticism can be done and can be quite "palatable"IF it is done in a polite and constructive manner.
With respect to those who are drawaing "flak" for critical comments made, I respectfully suggest that you consider the MANNER in which you say things.
I'm aware that the world of today is VERY different from the world that I was brought up in - people are generally more selfish, less caring, less sensitive etc - I think that it's happening worldwide (eg TV reality shows thrive because they show someone being made a fool of, or being rejected by fellow participants etc) - it's a pity, but I think that we all being exposed to this side of things, and there's nothing we can do about it - however, let's try and leave it off this forum.
Oleg and his team are clearly producing a ground-breaking flight sim that is going to be way ahead of "the opposition" - apart from being grateful, encourage him and his team with constructive and polite criticism.
There ... I've got that "off my chest"!!

philip.ed 10-02-2010 09:15 PM

But he hasn't turned advice and information away, has he? The term 'discussion' exactly sums up these very topics. Discussion about the update which includes personal feelings. That's just my view on it though. No doubt others will differ in their opinions...

FG28_Kodiak 10-02-2010 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foo'bar (Post 186699)
Where? Or am I blind??

go on User CP -> Setings and Options -> Edit Ignore List
Then type in the name you wish to ignore in future.

undercut 10-02-2010 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Hecke (Post 186190)
No sound? There hasn't been any sound yet and you said you wouldn't show any sound till the release. So i don't see where the problem is.

Bummer...

*Nudge, Nudge.. wink, wink...* ;)

winny 10-02-2010 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by philip.ed (Post 186619)
Can you post it Winny? I hear that WoP looks pretty bad without filters, so I imagine that if the clouds were defined more and the terrain had higher-res-textures than a filter could make it look awesome (so long as it was realistic...)

Firstly when it come to filters mine are purley artistic... I have no idea how to do proper atmosphere effects...

I did these for myself really but they are relevant.

All I've done to them is increase the colour saturation and messed about with contrast. I added a 1 pixel blur to everything as it eases som of the AA-ing.

I dont claim that I know what the finished game(?) will look like but I was just looking at the colours out of interest.

http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/z...e/SoW/Sow3.jpg
http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/z...e/SoW/Sow4.jpg
http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/z...e/SoW/Sow5.jpg

Looking at them I might have added film grain as well.

philip.ed 10-02-2010 09:44 PM

Nice work. I like the colours in the last shot for the grass. Obviously monitors will show different colours, but from my PoV it looks like a good representation of summer-grass. Then again, so did the original shot, but here the grass blends better into a 2D texture than the original shot.
It shows what can be done, screenshot wise, from SoW and considering this is a very early SoW-version then people who like taking screenshots will hit gold when SoW is released.
I'm confident the terrain will reach the photo-realistic quality Oleg talked of. If not on x-day, then in a patch. (or even later in a 3rd party app)

Qpassa 10-02-2010 09:51 PM

wow winny

MD_Titus 10-02-2010 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by philip.ed (Post 186672)
MD, show me where I have posted something appalling.
Did you actually read my original post before saying that I wrote something appalling? My first post was a simple question that I had posed to Oleg. There was nothing rude about it.

tbh that particular comment wasn't specifically aimed at you. if someone posts something appallingly childish etc etc
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tree_UK (Post 186673)
It is so worrying here how any critisim is recieved, some of you lot are boardering on fanatical, it really is a joke. No offence of course.

there's a ton of difference between constructive criticism and whiny griping about childlike landscapes.

philip.ed 10-02-2010 10:00 PM

Sorry, recently I have built up quite a guilty conscience on here. My apologies for accusing you.

ATAG_Dutch 10-02-2010 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MD_Titus (Post 186721)
tbh that particular comment wasn't specifically aimed at you. if someone posts something appallingly childish etc etc

there's a ton of difference between constructive criticism and whiny griping about childlike landscapes.

I give up.
See you next week.
Ho Hum.


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