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bongodriver 12-28-2011 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by HamishUK (Post 374052)
I am somewhat miffed.

Whilst I understand CloD is being 'fixed' (and rightly so) I was hopeing for 1C to expand on this timeframe and opportunity with new aircraft...a Royal Navy and German Navy for some exceptional packed battles.

The fact that there are no new aircraft planned...no new ground models and the fact you have to purchase the expansion if you want stuff that was meant to be implemented in the original is very dissapointing.

CloD no doubt will be 'fixed' but will not be expanded on leaving a half baked game that has taken nearly 10 years to come to fruition.

Thanks 1C.
BOM is not an expansion....it's a new title.

bongodriver 12-28-2011 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by HamishUK (Post 374053)
The 'community' should not have to 'create' stuff to sort out 1C's issues.
So what should the community do with an SDK? and why would that be sorting out 1C's issues?

AMVI_Superblu 12-28-2011 11:58 AM
Do you remember how it was the original IL-2 Sturmovik at first ? :rolleyes:

Insuber 12-28-2011 12:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by HamishUK (Post 374053)
The 'community' should not have to 'create' stuff to sort out 1C's issues.
LOL ... with this mentality there would not be any Daidalos Team or SAS, would it? I have friends still creating objects and content for the venerable 1946, such as the upcoming 4.12; do you think that they do it to sort out 1C issues?

HamishUK 12-28-2011 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Insuber (Post 374077)
LOL ... with this mentality there would not be any Daidalos Team or SAS, would it? I have friends still creating objects and content for the venerable 1946, such as the upcoming 4.12; do you think that they do it to sort out 1C issues?
There was no Daidalos when IL2 was released and we all managed without it so your point is moot.

Well part of the stuff Daidalos do is fix flight models etc and they have corrected many faulty values. They don't just create new objects. So yes in a way they have fixed a number of 1C issues!

@bongodriver. It is an expansion (albeit capable as a standalone). Just as PF was an expansion from IL2. I guess you can define expansion differently but for me it's an extension of the existing gameword...with fixes to the main game..ergo expansion.

bongodriver 12-28-2011 01:33 PM
No it's a standalone but mergeable just like Pacific Fighters.

HamishUK 12-28-2011 01:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bongodriver (Post 374093)
No it's a standalone but mergeable just like Pacific Fighters.
Which in turn was defined as a standalone expansion.

bongodriver 12-28-2011 01:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by HamishUK (Post 374097)
Which in turn was defined as a standalone expansion.
So would people consider DCS A-10 to be an expansion of Black Shark?......same game world.....they are compatible online.

Insuber 12-28-2011 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by HamishUK (Post 374090)
There was no Daidalos when IL2 was released and we all managed without it so your point is moot.
Your point that the community should not create objects, maps or missions with the planned SDK, only because you want 1C to deal with their issues alone, is laughable and childish. Of course MG must fix the game engine and other proprietary portions, such as FM and DM. But when this game will be completely fixed it will provide a lot of room for third party add ons, free or rentable. This was the original plan of Oleg, right after the experience of Il2.

Cheers,
Ins.

addman 12-28-2011 02:16 PM
It's quite simple really, it's a stand-alone expansion which you may:

A: Merge with CloD if you have it and enjoy the content of that game together with BoM
or
B: Play it as a separate game without CloD content

If I have understood it properly.


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