I know what you mean, while we want a historically accurate sim, we also want a balanced game. If the German aircraft had air to air missiles in WWII the Battle of Britain wouldn't have lasted long, and a game of it would be too one sided and pointless. But in the real BoB, Germany lost a lot more aircraft than Britain, so if it is historically accurate, your guns won't just be doing decorating. I appreciate that the German tactics were poor, and us gamers won't make those same mistakes in our 109s, but even so.

Lol :mrgreen:

Personal! You killed my family!

I'm kidding, lighten up, he was just having a laugh about crazy ammunition in his fighter, and being aggressive towards some imaginary bomber. Instead of 8 .303's he wants 8 Vulcan Gatling guns. That’s clearly having a laugh and not being personal.

It's funny that's the last thing I think of my 109.....a Nazi machine. I think the higher ups were nothing but an irritating puzzlement and source of amusement to all of the Jagdgeschwader commanders and their pilots.

Interesting pov ...

It certainly didn't keep them from following orders and killing a lot of people.

But, as for satisfaction - there is something about having to memorize the location of the enemy's fuel tanks - or gradually weaken and cripple the enemy over several runs (both more chivralic and your opponent knows that they are beaten). I personally moved beyond the Mk-108 many years ago (back on SWOTL) in preference to longer and closer fights. However, I can certainly see the appeal of the occasional fireball.

Well you're not going to leave your butt planted in a chair playing cards while enemy fighters and bombers are zooming around are you?...Or are you??? That statement makes no sense to me. A Spitfire, Hurricane or Mustang pilot all had the same job as a 109 pilot. Kill or be killed. If you don't kill that enemy he's going to get you.

You have more choice than kill or be killed. If you feel that the war effort you are involved in is seriously wrong and immoral, you have several choices. You can defect, refuse to fight (you'd have to run to neutral ground, easy in a 109), or even just not be very good. For example, a 109 pilot in a good position in the BoB could easily just turn and run home, assuming no one was watching. Even say you shot down the enemy and get a pat on the back.

Well I congratulte you Triggaaaaar!
You cant be serious about history!!!!:!:

Now how do you play alone in multiplayer? Sitting there on you English hedgerow lighting candles with them defected Gutmenschen1O9 pilots,
contemplating about all the poor multiplayers, beeing shot down by bad ass Nazis online fliers like me?

Salute!
Dietger

The Tommy could run too, no? :mrgreen:

And this is exactly why I think it is skewed. Nobody is doubting contribution however little attention is paid to very important details such as how long a squadron actually spent on the front line given the frequent rotation system and how many pilots or aircraft they actually lost by a squadron, or which airfield they operated from, or which aircraft types they attacked. It's pretty meaningless. The trouble is that the raw figure is somehow seen as a measure of skill and ability which is very misleading.
The Luftwaffe may have lost 258 aircraft in Poland but that does not mean that 258 were shot down my Polish fighters - there are many ways to lose an aircraft.

Don't get me wrong, i'm not belittling contribution, but I don't accept that Poles were simply better than everybody else. That's nonsense.

Do any of you have the sensibility to just create a new topic and hammer away there? All you need to do is just quote the last reply and continue. ;)
thanks in advance