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Pips 07-22-2012 09:54 PM

What I want to know is.......... how do the crew get aboard their floatplane without getting their boots soaked?

Spudkopf 07-23-2012 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pips (Post 447515)
What I want to know is.......... how do the crew get aboard their floatplane without getting their boots soaked?

Piggy-back ;)

Juri_JS 07-23-2012 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fighterace (Post 447395)
Yes please...May we have a F1M Pete for Il-21946 ?? :)

It is not a Pete, but at Aviaskins someone is working on a E13A:
http://forum.aviaskins.com/showthread.php?t=2343

The model is looking quite good. I don't know if choisek is cooperating with TD, but it would be great if the E13A could be added to one of the next patches.

Fighterace 07-23-2012 05:24 AM

I'd be happy with that :)

Lagarto 07-23-2012 06:55 AM

Lovely. How's the poly count?

Sita 07-23-2012 07:03 AM

E13A from choisek is under standarts of IL2 ...

ElAurens 07-23-2012 11:21 AM

Wow, that is great.

Fighterace 07-26-2012 11:26 AM

Is it possible to have the Me-210/410 flyable for this game?

Kittle 07-26-2012 08:40 PM

That E13 is gorgeous, don't care who says otherwise. The P40 rebuild might be the one I look forward to the most, it's about time, and am thankful. I fly the P40 more then anything else, and this is going to be awesome! Also, that Ki-45 is coming along very well. Exciting times for a 10 year old sim!!

Ace1staller 07-26-2012 11:01 PM

that E-13 is going well very nicely, lets hope to see that in 4.12 because I could tell its coming in :)

EJGr.Ost_Caspar 07-27-2012 06:40 AM

Indeed, that project looks pretty good and the guy knows how to model!

fruitbat 07-27-2012 12:53 PM

Re the Wellington, absolutely fantastic:mrgreen:

Looks great, thank you for all your hard work.

Asheshouse 07-27-2012 02:04 PM

Nice update today.
I sure wasn't expecting the Wellington.

Ashe

RegRag1977 07-27-2012 03:05 PM

Wellington, very nice!
 
This is a very pleasant surprise indeed!

TD you guys know how to tease :D

Question : Will it be flyable or AI?

Daniël 07-27-2012 03:07 PM

A Wellington! Great!!! :grin:

Wiesel 07-27-2012 04:27 PM

WELLINGTON! GREAT!!! :o

"One of the british Bombers"

Fergal69 07-27-2012 04:40 PM

It would be great to see a wellington, especially a flyable version, as reading these forums, it is a very missed bomber. It's strange that people seem to mention the Wellington more so than the Lancaster.

Would be nice to see if it is as resiliant & able to soak up the damage they suffered due to the geometric structure they used to build it with.

With regard to float planes, how about a Arado 196 or Heinkel 115?

Sita 07-27-2012 06:04 PM

target for night fighter)

harryRIEDL 07-27-2012 07:40 PM

Lovely looking model and a lovely sight seeing a great british bomber(hoping it flyable) oh not to be too picky will their be a chance for the merlin power Wellington.

CWMV 07-27-2012 08:38 PM

Wow, and I thought 4.11 was packed with awesome content! Looks like 4.12 will be another game changer. Kudos DT.

IceFire 07-27-2012 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fergal69 (Post 448675)
It would be great to see a wellington, especially a flyable version, as reading these forums, it is a very missed bomber. It's strange that people seem to mention the Wellington more so than the Lancaster.

Would be nice to see if it is as resiliant & able to soak up the damage they suffered due to the geometric structure they used to build it with.

With regard to float planes, how about a Arado 196 or Heinkel 115?

In many ways the Wellington is more "useful" to us as it was used for much of the war and over a variety of theatres including in North Africa. Don't get me wrong... I've grown up with a Lancaster flying over my house every so often so I have a special appreciation for that aircraft. I'd love to see it too. Maybe we will yet!

Spudkopf 07-28-2012 05:15 AM

The Wellington looks very nice and is indeed an unexpected yet very welcome addition. This plane does conjure up the possibility of some early war ground directed night fighter operations, now all we need are those missing up-gunned Ju-88 variants to play with.

I know that many look forward to, neigh dream of there one day being a fully-fledged Bomber Command with the Stirling, Halifax and Lancaster heavies available in Il2-46. Not to mention the likelihood of an equally fledged Costal Command operating the B-17, B-24 and soon the Wellington (it would be even nicer if a Costal Command variant of the Wellington and that projected B-24 could be modelled in parallel).

Now that I think it, dedicated anti-submarine and anti-convoy missions are both major portions of WWII that appear to be missing from Il2-46, which is interesting considering the significant role such operations played in both Russia’s and Britain’s survival. IMO the maps for such missions would be quite simple being mostly ocean with some choice pieces of mostly uninhabited remote coastline (maybe the odd berg floating here and there also). Bearing in mind we already have much of the required elements, like the Naval and Merchant ships, along with many of the key axis and allied aircraft already flyable, with those new subs on the way……………

But I digress, many thanks for another mouth-watering update.

ElAurens 07-28-2012 12:00 PM

Until ship AA gunner snipers are replaced with more normal types, attacking a U Boat on the surface will be a death wish. Add the fact that the U Boats and other surfaced subs in IL2 seem to be armored like battleships and there is little to be gained by trying to take them out via air attack.

Subs on the surface in reality were very vunerable to air attack, no so in the sim.

KG26_Alpha 07-28-2012 01:10 PM

Its ok having a Wellington, we just need a map to fly it on

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=31555


:)

IceFire 07-28-2012 02:11 PM

I'm not sure if I've asked but has anyone ID'ed which variant of the Wellington this is?

magot 07-28-2012 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha (Post 448885)
Its ok having a Wellington, we just need a map to fly it on

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=31555


:)

No fear in plan is other map with part of territory where did fly Wellington´s and rest UK bombers ...

Spudkopf 07-28-2012 10:54 PM

In today's update we would like to present one of the British bombers DT is working on... Vickers Wellington.

Quote:

Originally Posted by magot (Post 448945)
No fear in plan is other map with part of territory where did fly Wellington´s and rest UK bombers ...

I think those highlighted are the most important points of the update related posts!

_1SMV_Gitano 07-29-2012 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IceFire (Post 448898)
I'm not sure if I've asked but has anyone ID'ed which variant of the Wellington this is?

It's a Mk.III :)

Ace1staller 07-29-2012 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by magot (Post 448945)
No fear in plan is other map with part of territory where did fly Wellington´s and rest UK bombers ...

Well its definitely did went to the Battle of France and it bombed German targets like German cities however, I think we should have a map of central France. also I would love to see the magoit line as the German french border with Switzerland south of Germany. Because many German planes went into switzerland so I would like to see the 1940 German-French border of the summer.

IceFire 07-29-2012 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _1SMV_Gitano (Post 448993)
It's a Mk.III :)

Most excellent :) Thank you!

Ace1staller 07-29-2012 06:34 PM

Believe it or not everyone and including TD,

I am going to make the Switzerland map. Also this is my first time making a map. so I'll be asking for help in the mods section because I haven't built a map before.

Also to let you know, my mission4today account is JPS1 not Ace1Staller

EDit : the Swiss map that I'm making is going to be cancel repeat cancelled

9288264 07-30-2012 08:06 AM

tough ship
 
hi. thankyou for nice job!
Can't the function of A.I. be given to  ship?.:confused:
Can't a rudder be turn autonomous in order to avoid the attack of a bomb or a torpedo? .

Luno13 07-31-2012 12:19 AM

You guys are awesome! I never anticipated seeing a Wellington added the list of birds in this sim (especially since it would be considered a BoB aircraft and restricted by your agreement with Maddox games).

It's also great to hear about new maps, new submarines, new vehicles and other aircraft...Bravo!

I can see that the subs have a very detailed full-hull model, and are not just waterline objects. Will the new subs be able to dive to evade aircraft and destroyers? How will AA gunnery change, if at all?

The improvement to the P-40 model is superb! It's great to see the repainted cockpits too. The visual damage modeling is outstanding!

I love the Ki-45 additions! I really like the aesthetics of the earlier versions with the rounder nose. Will the forward-firing cannon be reloaded by the gunner, or will behave like an automatic weapon?

Shared kills are a very important and long-awaited feature! I know of no other flight sim that does this (only some private online servers may record "assists" by using their own record-keeping programs).

I am just amazed with all the changes coming to this grand old sim. It seems that many more years of enjoyment are to be had with it, thanks to your hard work! Thank you!

Fighterace 08-01-2012 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spudkopf (Post 448966)
In today's update we would like to present one of the British bombers DT is working on... Vickers Wellington.



I think those highlighted are the most important points of the update related posts!

What other British Bombers is DT working on?

slm 08-01-2012 03:37 PM

Great to see all the improvements you guys keep adding. Especially Wellington looks real nice!

bf-110 08-03-2012 09:11 PM

What?Wellington?When?Where?How?Who????

Just reinstalled IL2 and rediscovered the joy of it...
A british bomber would come great for IL2.

Are there any plans for the PZL P.37?

IceFire 08-03-2012 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bf-110 (Post 451089)
What?Wellington?When?Where?How?Who????

Just reinstalled IL2 and rediscovered the joy of it...
A british bomber would come great for IL2.

Are there any plans for the PZL P.37?

Read page 2 of this thread: http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=31724

Maybe read the rest of the thread too...:cool:

Kittle 08-04-2012 03:50 PM

I am one happy man!!! The P40 improvements are beautiful, and one of the things that needed attention in the worst way. Thank You!!! The new Ki-45 models are beautiful, as she has always been one of my favorite aircraft, I am so very pleased to see it in so many versions in my favorite sim. A new gfx card finally allows me to run IL2 full up with conf.ini tweaked and tons of stuff going on silky smooth, just in time for this!!! :D

Fighterace 08-06-2012 09:21 AM

How's the B-24D coming along & what's coming up in the next update? :P

Ace1staller 08-07-2012 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fighterace (Post 451999)
How's the B-24D coming along & what's coming up in the next update? :P

I can't wait to fly the B-24 (:

+10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 for the B-24

Buster_Dee 08-07-2012 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fighterace (Post 451999)
How's the B-24D coming along & what's coming up in the next update? :P

This one is on me. I believe Guse is done with his part of the project (nose, ball turret, and waist). I have the pit, top turret, and tail turret. But I don't know how to prep them for integration, so I'm back in the "training" mode at the moment. Help has been offered, but I have to work through it too if I'm to pull my weight.

Lagarto 08-08-2012 04:18 PM

Are there any new ground units scheduled for the release with 4.12? Trucks towing artillery pieces, perhaps? Or any kind of British AT / heavy AA / field guns?

Ace1staller 08-12-2012 01:32 PM

anything coming up ?

magot 08-15-2012 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lagarto (Post 453022)
Are there any new ground units scheduled for the release with 4.12? Trucks towing artillery pieces, perhaps? Or any kind of British AT / heavy AA / field guns?

Yes M10 Achilles but for later release ..

Lagarto 08-16-2012 06:18 AM

Thank you for the heads-up, much appreciated. I'd rather see M3 Lee/Grant or Bren Carrier but beggars can't be choosers :)

magot 08-17-2012 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lagarto (Post 454665)
Thank you for the heads-up, much appreciated. I'd rather see M3 Lee/Grant or Bren Carrier but beggars can't be choosers :)

M3 we don´t have started, but for 4.12 multi-gun support it can be good idea.

Kittle 08-17-2012 11:24 PM

LoL, the M10, what an awesome choice! I play a lot of Combat Mission, so this one is near and dear to my heart. Don't know why I never noticed her absense until someone mentions it. Either way, love what you folks are doing for IL2. Keep up the excellent work!

Fighterace 08-19-2012 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ace1staller (Post 454153)
anything coming up ?

+1

Pursuivant 08-19-2012 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by magot (Post 454896)
M3 we don´t have started, but for 4.12 multi-gun support it can be good idea.

This would be an excellent idea, since the M3 was another one of those "ubiquitous" tanks - used on the Eastern Front as well as the MTO, CBI and the Pacific (Makin Island invasion).

Fighterace 08-20-2012 01:37 AM

Plz may we have the P-40F :)

SPITACE 08-23-2012 11:03 AM

hi all the Wellington looks great will it be flyable? :-P:-P

Alien 08-23-2012 03:19 PM

I'd like to ask if there will be major AI changes for ground attacks, especially kamikaze. By now you must select their target (except fighters and divebombers) and when they destroy it, the remaining units will slowly belly-land next to other targets. I understand that, they have just ONE target. So perhaps an alternative waypoint would be a good option? And for the other types that don't need target selection, I'd suggest to create a ,,value system" which tells the AI how important a close target is, and to overwrite the default ,,distance system" with it. That should fix the problem, IMO.
,,Values" could be like this:
CV- 10pts
CVL/CVE- 9pts
BB- 8pts
CA- 7pts
CL- 6pts
DD- 5pts
SS- 4pts
Transport ship- 7pts
Small units like PTs- 2pts
Damaged units would have the value increased by 1pt to make the planes attack them primarily, and if an AI's target was destroyed, it would immediately pick up another one.
I don't know how hard can it be, but if you find it a good idea, I think it could be done in a couple of weeks by 1-3 person squad.

magot 08-25-2012 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPITACE (Post 456079)
hi all the Wellington looks great will it be flyable? :-P:-P

Not planned.

Fighterace 08-25-2012 03:52 PM

When will 4.12 patch be released?

ElAurens 08-25-2012 04:17 PM

I have zero inside knowledge of such things, but 4.11 is not that old yet. And judging by what I see of new items/features they are working on, I'd say it is a good ways off.

Just my opinion mind you, but the kind of work DT are doing is very time consuming, and they all do it on their own time, for free, between their day jobs, family, and normal life obligations.

secretone 08-25-2012 09:14 PM

Can Real Aircraft Fly Without Vertical Stabilizers?
 
In one word: no. So why do I shoot off vertical stabilizers of certain aircraft (offline) only to see them continue flying? This morning I shot the vertical stabilizer off of a Ju-87G Kanonenvogel (offline) with a 37mm shell from a p-39 and it kept right on going on its merry way! I am thinking that something must be wrong with certain flight models.

IceFire 08-26-2012 01:08 AM

Aircraft can fly without vertical stabilizers... just not very well. The fuselage itself provides some of the stability that the vertical stabilizer provides in many types of aircraft.

Try shooting the stabilizer off the Go229... it doesn't have one :)

Luno13 08-26-2012 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by secretone (Post 456811)
In one word: no. So why do I shoot off vertical stabilizers of certain aircraft (offline) only to see them continue flying? This morning I shot the vertical stabilizer off of a Ju-87G Kanonenvogel (offline) with a 37mm shell from a p-39 and it kept right on going on its merry way! I am thinking that something must be wrong with certain flight models.

It's not that easy to fly without the stabilizer. Any input in roll adds adverse yaw which cannot be corrected. As a result, the aircraft skids strongly and can fall into an unrecoverable spin.

It's a very precarious situation, and if he managed to land it that way, he deserves a congratulations ;)

Fighterace 08-26-2012 01:18 PM

Will the P-40 w/ Lagg-3 engine ( Sorry, i cant remember the name of the engine) be a new model too?

Sita 08-26-2012 01:24 PM

m -105

Fighterace 08-26-2012 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sita (Post 456946)
m -105

That's the one Sita, thanks

nic727 08-30-2012 02:53 AM

No news coming???

Ace1staller 09-03-2012 02:24 AM

TD , would it be possible if smoke and fire effects are added to oil tanks when they blow up ?

Treetop64 09-08-2012 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by secretone (Post 456811)
In one word: no. So why do I shoot off vertical stabilizers of certain aircraft (offline) only to see them continue flying? This morning I shot the vertical stabilizer off of a Ju-87G Kanonenvogel (offline) with a 37mm shell from a p-39 and it kept right on going on its merry way! I am thinking that something must be wrong with certain flight models.

Actually, aircraft that fly with a vertical stabilizer can still fly without it, but at a loss of longitudinal stability, and at greater risk of entering - and staying in - a flat spin in some conditions. An aircraft just doesn't fall out of the sky just because it lost it's vertical tail.

Now, if an aircraft loses it's entire elevator control or a wing...

Ace1staller 09-08-2012 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Treetop64 (Post 459467)
Actually, aircraft that fly with a vertical stabilizer can still fly without it, but at a loss of longitudinal stability, and at greater risk of entering - and staying in - a flat spin in some conditions. An aircraft just doesn't fall out of the sky just because it lost it's vertical tail.

Now, if an aircraft loses it's entire elevator control or a wing...

yeah it would fall out of the sky if taking out the elevation controls or the wing and it would fall out of the sky

Lagarto 09-09-2012 11:30 AM

Could we see some work-in-progress screenshots of the new maps? Tunisia, maybe?

Thank you for the Beaufort!! To those unfamiliar with the operational service of this aircraft, I heartily recommend autobiographical books "Torpedo Leader on Malta" and "Not Peace But A Sword" by Patrick Gibbs, also "Torpedo Airmen" by Roy C. Nesbit.
Now we only need a Malta map :)

FlyingShark 09-09-2012 03:53 PM

Yeah, the Beaufort looks great, it comes as a nice surprise.

Thank you.

~S~

Sita 09-09-2012 04:54 PM

yei something new)))

Mysticpuma 09-09-2012 05:09 PM

Regarding the 'shared kill' features, does this also mean that aircraft attacked by AA fire previous to the player attacking it will now share the kill?
I've lost count of the aircraft I have shot down but got 0 points for as unknown to me, before I attacked the e/a it had been damaged (no matter how small the damage) and anything I did wouldn't be counted as the AA always 'steal' the kill.

Has it been possible to fix this?

Cheers, MP

Asheshouse 09-09-2012 05:23 PM

Wow, a Beaufort! Tremendous news.

Sita 09-09-2012 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asheshouse (Post 459589)
Wow, a Beaufort! Tremendous news.

where is your Hempden)?

Sita 09-09-2012 05:57 PM

5 Attachment(s)
i still waiting and dreaming about it)

Bonz 09-09-2012 06:28 PM

Update...
 
Just thought I check to see if there is an expected release date... :grin:
Before Christmas? Maybe.

Bonz 09-09-2012 06:59 PM

Possible MODs
 
Two things actually:
1. For Single Player Campaigns... I'd like to be able to force the player into certain cockpits rather then allowing Rank to control selection.
2. Also for Single Player Campaigns... Some missions in my campaign's are training... however, to make them more interesting and fun... I encourage players to actually shoot down the "bad guy"... This of course adds to total campaign kills... Of course in real life the "bad Guy's would not actually get shot down ... I'd like the capability to designate certain missions as "Training" and therefore any kills (Ground or Air) would be excluded from the overall kill count... or better yet have two categories of KILLs ... "Training" and "Actual"... determined by the type of mission selected... Training or not.
Bonz... :)

jameson 09-09-2012 07:08 PM

I did actually shoot down an "enemy" on a training mission, thought I'd be courtmarshalled when I landed, but no, got the kill and iron cross second class, go figure!

TedStryker 09-09-2012 07:22 PM

Wow. Simply brilliant work TD, keep it up....and thank you! Really looking forward to 4.12.

Fenrir 09-09-2012 08:52 PM

Can't believe I'm the only one who's noticed the fire & smoke on that exciting new addition to the 4,12 stable; not exactly stock, if you catch my drift....

RegRag1977 09-09-2012 09:08 PM

What a cute plane!
 
What a cute plane, very nice addition along with the Vickers Wellington!

Many thanks for these!

Question: will the Bristol be flyable? At least one British bomber flyable would be nice because with 4.12 we will have 3 British bombers (along with Blenheim), and none flyable :(

@Fenrir: oh if you are talking about the effect discussed in the other thread, that would be fantastic. Such effects with all these new high quality additions would certainly attract new players in Oleg's legendary sim!

Aardvark892 09-09-2012 09:46 PM

Outstanding news... although it makes me worry that since this update was just released that it means that 4.12 is now even farther in the future. Don't take that as a complaint, TD, I'm one of your biggest fans!

Kittle 09-10-2012 12:56 AM

The Beaufort is one of my favorite bombers of WWII. I can only hope for some Aussi skins for those PTO maps. Great news TD, thank you!!!

ElAurens 09-10-2012 01:05 AM

I just hope it's flyable.

IceFire 09-10-2012 01:36 AM

Great news eh!! Beaufort is a funky looking one...not a beautiful aircraft but so useful to have!

Luno13 09-10-2012 01:48 AM

DT, you left your thread unlocked. Better get someone to lock it again ;)

Anyway, I am in awe. I never would have expected to see the Beaufort in the sim. Beautiful!

EDIT - I see in one of the screens the plane has two nose guns. Is this another version, or a weapon load-out option?

ElAurens 09-10-2012 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IceFire (Post 459683)
Great news eh!! Beaufort is a funky looking one...not a beautiful aircraft but so useful to have!

I built an Airfix 1/72 scale model of one many years ago, so I have good feelings about the aircraft.

Painted it as a Coastal Command aircraft.

anikollag 09-10-2012 11:07 AM

Great news!
I'm just reading Torpedo Leader on Malta by W.C. Patrick Gibbs. I was wondering if someone was moddeling it :)))
THANKS DT :grin:

Zorin 09-10-2012 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luno13 (Post 459685)
DT, you left your thread unlocked. Better get someone to lock it again ;)

Anyway, I am in awe. I never would have expected to see the Beaufort in the sim. Beautiful!

EDIT - I see in one of the screens the plane has two nose guns. Is this another version, or a weapon load-out option?

Early and late model. All 303s.

felix_the_fat 09-10-2012 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asheshouse (Post 459589)
Wow, a Beaufort! Tremendous news.

Yes indeed! Congrats TD - you are the best!
I have a large glossy photo of a Beaufort on my wall -from my late uncle. He was a navigator in same - over the Timor Sea.
Not a glamorous aircraft- but a workhorse of those days. Inclusion of just such aircraft reflects the outstanding historical commitment of Il2 & its modders.

ElAurens 09-10-2012 04:36 PM

It will be a good stand in for the Lockheed Hudson as well.

:cool:

Luno13 09-10-2012 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zorin (Post 459770)
Early and late model. All 303s.

Thanks. :)

Untamo 09-11-2012 05:49 PM

S!

Woah, nice update!

ilmavoimat 09-11-2012 08:23 PM

Just to add my thanks for the Beaufort, totally unexpected. Looking forward to escorting it over New Guinea in the new P-40s.

Ikarushin 09-11-2012 09:21 PM

Thanks TD for yet another nice surprise for the 4.12 update. This promises to be a great update. Again.
With kind regards,
Ikarushin

EAF331 Starfire 09-13-2012 09:08 PM

Thank guys.
Told some of our people over in EAF about your work. The shared kills was really making a blast ;-)

Grach 09-14-2012 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luno13 (Post 459685)
EDIT - I see in one of the screens the plane has two nose guns. Is this another version, or a weapon load-out option?

Beaufort had a few gun-armament options.

Early: fixed .303 Browning in port wing plus twin .303 VGO or Browning in dorsal turret.

Later: fixed .303 Browning in port wing plus twin .303 VGO or Browning in dorsal turret plus twin .303 VGO in nose plus single or two .303 VGO in fuselage that could fire out of cabin side windows port or starboard, one per side. Some had a remote control .303 Browning in a chin blister to fire rearwards, but this was not popular or effective and was removed quite early on.

Thanks for the Beauforts TD! You guys rock!

If any Australian (Twin Wasp powered) ones turn up, expect to see .50 cals replacing some of those .303s. The Aussie ones were very heavily armed for light bombers of their size... :shock:

Fighterace 09-17-2012 11:41 AM

Are any planes getting a 3D model "facelifts"?

Treetop64 09-17-2012 07:29 PM

Just asking if we can see all the updates on the first post of the thread, like how you used to do. Kinda frustrating to leaf through all the pages in the thread trying to find individual updates.

Thanks.

:)

_1SMV_Gitano 09-17-2012 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Treetop64 (Post 461854)
Just asking if we can see all the updates on the first post of the thread, like how you used to do. Kinda frustrating to leaf through all the pages in the thread trying to find individual updates.

Thanks.

:)

check here: http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=31724 :mrgreen:

CWMV 09-17-2012 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fighterace (Post 461720)
Are any planes getting a 3D model "facelifts"?

Would love to see the 109 get a rework!

Fighterace 09-18-2012 07:32 PM

I saw something in an earlier post about a P-47 update. What's being updated for them exactly?

Or did I imagine it lol

RegRag1977 09-18-2012 08:06 PM

cockpit afaik
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fighterace (Post 462184)
I saw something in an earlier post about a P-47 update. What's being updated for them exactly?

Or did I imagine it lol

AFAIK only the cockpit will be remade.


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