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skouras 09-04-2011 03:31 PM

i notice in the pics that maybe we have water waves now on the surface
or is just me...

chiefrr73 09-04-2011 04:29 PM

Thanks for the update!
I notice that the pilot is shown in the gauges or was it shown before? Didn t play the game since 4 month.

Welshman 09-04-2011 06:01 PM

you may have stumbled onto something there , i just checked and all i can see in my game is the seat ;)

burlaff 09-04-2011 06:22 PM

If I recall correctly, in one of the older updates the devs said that they'd only included the reflection in the hurricane but not the spitfire - I have no idea why - so maybe that's what you're comparing it to

Welshman 09-04-2011 06:32 PM

argh crap just checked in a hurricane and the pilot reflection is there , never noticed that before lol .

chiefrr73 09-04-2011 07:03 PM

Ah ok, my fault. Like i said, i didn t play the game since 4 month and only played it like two hours, performance on my rig was to bad. I will wait till i hear the game is much more better than today, will keep on playing Il2 1946 its still a lot of fun in there :-)
I hope the team will sort things out in time, i think they will.

louisv 09-04-2011 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MACADEMIC (Post 330813)
Yes I have. Distances are accurate.

MAC

England is a small country. Geographically that is...

Trumper 09-04-2011 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by louisv (Post 330535)
Did anybody ever try to measure the actual speed of the aircraft by measuring the map of England, between two known points in WoP, and timing.

It always surprised me how fast one can go from London to Dover in that follow the little dot on the map game with fly in a green fuzzy fish bowl dogfight.

According to Google maps centre of London to Dover by road is 76 miles .
As the crow flies and from the south of London maybe 65 miles ish and at a speed of 200-300 mph you are probably looking at 10 - 15 mins maximum.
Mind you can't beat London to Brighton on a train LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtOjGXZ5sLM

Blackdog_kt 09-05-2011 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAF (Post 330371)
I am going to go with your fiancée to a pub, after they arrange the A.A.



And you are not in charge to me to be quiet, you are not anybody, the A.A. is the awful, it is preferable that arrange the AA and do not color them.

You're going to get a couple of days of "forum vacation" if you make one more suggestive comment about other people's fiancees, long before you get the chance to take them to a pub, if ever.

I can let a few stuff slide because everyone does it when things heat up in here and it evens out in the long run, but making suggestive remarks about family/friends of forum users that have no involvement whatsoever in this forum is way over the frickin' top.

You can disagree with another user without attacking each other, you can report the posts of another user so that we will look at them and "put them in their place" if there is a need to, you can even defend yourself if he is engaging in personal attacks against you as long as it doesn't turn into a complete slagging match, but dragging uninvolved people into the mix? Unacceptable.

Watch your manners from now on if you want to keep posting here, the only reason i'm letting you off the hook this time is that you seem like a newcomer and i like to give people some time to learn how the forum works on their own, before enforcing the rules.

julien673 09-05-2011 01:13 AM

Any one who make a joke like that in front of the fiancé. He knew what it may occurs. Every body know that. Its like pushing a pregnant in front of the futur dad. Hope you change yourmind, for me its automatic ban + is home address

Sry for the off topic, waiting for this patch ;)

Richie 09-05-2011 06:38 AM

I remember the girls in Pride & Prejudice boohooing away wanting to go to Brighton. The one that was the hussy especially.

No601_Swallow 09-05-2011 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trumper (Post 330851)
Mind you can't beat London to Brighton on a train LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtOjGXZ5sLM

Thanks Trumper! That's one of my favourite bits of archive (and I went to school in both Streatham and Croydon, so I know some of them there tracks!).

But distances are always relative, aren't they. One of the last bits of FS2004/X I did regularly (before I recovered all that disc space for shooting things down) was Shoreham to Biggin or London City in my Cessna or my lovely little Dornier, and I'd always be surprised when it took 20 or 25 minutes. I mean, where are the roadworks? The cones? The M25? Come to think of it, I never did it in my FS2004 F4. That one might have rivalled the London to Brighton.

Jotaele 09-05-2011 02:44 PM

I love the way in wich the game is being reworked. I hope than other aspects of the game are corrected.
I like the way in wich colors are tuned but i think there are too much blue atmosphere at short distance.

SEE 09-05-2011 03:55 PM

Look forward to the new colour renditioning. Well done Luthier and team!

skouras 09-05-2011 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefrr73 (Post 330828)
Thanks for the update!
I notice that the pilot is shown in the gauges or was it shown before? Didn t play the game since 4 month.

only in the hurricane
no pilot in the spitfire--just the seat

ingsoc84 09-05-2011 11:21 PM

Coming up on 4 am Moscow time, (tuesday) wonder how things are shaping up ;)

Capt Backasswards 09-05-2011 11:39 PM

500 foot grass plants. Uh-huh! :-P

Ze-Jamz 09-05-2011 11:41 PM

Triffords I tells yer!....Triffords!

ATAG_Doc 09-05-2011 11:43 PM

I wonder if it will actually happen today. Been very quiet.

ACE-OF-ACES 09-06-2011 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timej31 (Post 331405)
I wonder if it will actually happen today. Been very quiet.

Not looking good.. it is allready Tue in russia.. Maybe they did finish it but the hand off to STEAM is going to take a few days?

stephan87 09-06-2011 12:46 AM

the update???????????? when aprox...¿?¿?¿?

katdogfizzow 09-06-2011 01:54 AM

thx for the update....colors looking great

O_Smiladon 09-06-2011 03:59 AM

I wonder if we can still fly through tress ? :confused:

albx 09-06-2011 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES (Post 331434)
Not looking good.. it is allready Tue in russia.. Maybe they did finish it but the hand off to STEAM is going to take a few days?

no steam, this should have been a beta

xnomad 09-06-2011 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O_Smiladon (Post 331475)
I wonder if we can still fly through tress ? :confused:

I don't think there is a plan to address that issue yet; that would be real big news if they were doing this.

Vengeanze 09-06-2011 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xnomad (Post 331492)
I don't think there is a plan to address that issue yet; that would be real big news if they were doing this.

Too complicated as of now. No idea to wait for that.
See Luthiers comment below.

Q: I can fly through trees without receiving any damage.

A: Since Cliffs of Dover has more shrubbery in it than perhaps any other flight sim developed so far - hundreds of thousands of trees around the player - enabling collision for the trees grinds the game to a complete halt, especially as they need to be tracked around every plane on the map and not just the player's. Making collisions less precise leads to equally poor results, when planes may fly through a tree but crash into seemingly empty space.
We know this is extremely important. The solution is there, but it still eludes us.


Copy/paste from Airwarefare:
http://airwarfare.com/sow/index.php?...-faq&Itemid=94

Bo_Nidle 09-06-2011 07:16 AM

If they have successfully fixed the sound (including the guns!!!!!) from the toe curlingly awful sound we have now and fixed the cartoon coloured terrain as it appears they may have done then I will be happy to give ClOD another chance.

Now if they could also sort out the AI to stop it flying into the ground in the landing pattern, the tracers appearance and the amazingly irritating radio chatter I could become a fan.

Jabo2009 09-06-2011 08:43 AM

ok folks, seriously: we all waited long enough...what kind of XXXX is this? "sorry not today, but Monday". (I know this was no exact quotation, but we all understood it to be comin on MON) ...

still no patch today, come on, this is not serious business... if the patch isnt coming today I quit and send COD back to the store, period

Moderator Edit: No swearing, there are minors on these boards too.

Icebear 09-06-2011 08:54 AM

It's not that easy..... it depends on at least three factors. Just take a look at this and play around with the values.

How long is it going to take ?

You see ? So relax....;-)

FlushMeister 09-06-2011 08:58 AM

he said no earlier than monday, so it could be from monday to infinity. Let me just say that creating a game like this involves a LOT of work, they're probably working their asses off right now, instead of spending time with their families, these are grown ups who sacrifice a lot of their time, it's hard to understand unless you have kids or things like that, but please be patient and post nice things instead, I sure would hate working over-time and get disappointed replies in forums, wouldn't you? oh and btw it's rare for developers to even release beta patches and update people on what's happening so that's also an extra for us.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Jabo2009 (Post 331541)
ok folks, seriously: we all waited long enough...what kind of bullshit is this? "sorry not today, but Monday". (I know this was no exact quotation, but we all understood it to be comin on MON) ...

still no patch today, come on, this is no serious business... if the patch isnt coming today I quit and send COD back to the store, period


Ataros 09-06-2011 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jabo2009 (Post 331541)
we all understood it to be comin on MON

No. On Friday morning I wrote that I expect the patch to be out Tuesday the earliest (you may search for my previous post) because CloD history shows the bigger the patch the more it is delayed which is absolutely natural taking into account CloD complexity.

Now since we had a Friday update and no news on Monday I would bet it is 90% delayed till Friday. This is the way complex IT projects work. Especially in Russia. It is done when it is done. Just be reasonable and realistic in your expectations if you are grown up enough to understand how things work.

And no, we will not hear any ETA from the devs because they are doing their best to finish it asap and tying to release it in 3-6 hours but ...it is not that easy as some can imagine.

TRIK 09-06-2011 09:13 AM

6 to 8 weeks rofl

sorak 09-06-2011 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jabo2009 (Post 331541)
ok folks, seriously: we all waited long enough...what kind of bullshit is this? "sorry not today, but Monday". (I know this was no exact quotation, but we all understood it to be comin on MON) ...

still no patch today, come on, this is no serious business... if the patch isnt coming today I quit and send COD back to the store, period



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A

Jabo2009 09-06-2011 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlushMeister (Post 331546)
he said no earlier than monday, so it could be from monday to infinity. Let me just say that creating a game like this involves a LOT of work, they're probably working their asses off right now, instead of spending time with their families, these are grown ups who sacrifice a lot of their time, it's hard to understand unless you have kids or things like that, but please be patient and post nice things instead, I sure would hate working over-time and get disappointed replies in forums, wouldn't you? oh and btw it's rare for developers to even release beta patches and update people on what's happening so that's also an extra for us.

I appreciate their work, and yes I believe its a lot of work, but I disagree on the communication issue. Its obvious that many people get frustrated because they are waitin for patch release dates that turn out to be fake...

you cant treat customers like that

btw I wont go into senseless discussions here, some people will wait even till end of Sept, some will not. Enough said.

Phazon 09-06-2011 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ataros (Post 331547)
And no, we will not hear any ETA from the devs because they are doing their best to finish it asap and tying to release it in 3-6 hours but ...it is not that easy as some can imagine.

Ataros is right. It will be the most significant patch the game has seen since launch, almost every area of the game has had work done and seen some dramatic changes. It can be very easy to introduce new bugs. They want to get back on the good side of everyone, releasing a beta with obvious bugs will detract from the improvements and give people a wrong impression.

tintifaxl 09-06-2011 09:29 AM

They should take their time to do it properly. This patch is too important to simply rush it out the door. And even then it will need a quick fix shortly after.

Ataros 09-06-2011 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jabo2009 (Post 331552)
Its obvious that many people get frustrated because they are waitin for patch release dates that turn out to be fake...

you cant treat customers like that

The only solution is not to post any updates till a patch is uploaded. I think they will do this next time to make everyone happy. I guess we will not hear from the devs approximately 6 months after this patch is released. Get ready.
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...0&postcount=96

David198502 09-06-2011 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ataros (Post 331562)
The only solution is not to post any updates till a patch is uploaded. I think they will do this next time to make everyone happy. I guess we will not hear from the devs approximately 6 months after this patch is released. Get ready.
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...0&postcount=96

i dont know if this is necessary, and i hope that it wont happen.
in my impression the forum became pretty quiet the last week, with most members waiting happily and patient for the beta patch.its only the minority who is upset right now i think.

Havoc04 09-06-2011 10:00 AM

BEST policy is to....
Give updates how things are doin screenshots etc

But

NO RELEASE TIMES...

Save the agro of
a) Not finished
b) Not making the customers pressing the F5 key disappointed.
Pretty damn simple if you ask me.

Giving a release day/time and not following through is SHOOTING yourelf in the foot.

Posting an update DOES NOT require a release date to be stated.

Regards

Icebear 09-06-2011 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ataros (Post 331562)
..........I guess we will not hear from the devs approximately 6 months after this patch is released. Get ready.
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...0&postcount=96

Interesting theory. Any proofs for your allegations ? Quoting your own assumptions and rallying calls are nice to read, but where are they from ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ataros (Post 331562)
....And no, we will not hear any ETA from the devs because they are doing their best to finish it asap and tying to release it in 3-6 hours but ...it is not that easy as some can imagine.

Any proofs or just another itchy feeling between your legs ? ;)

Skoshi Tiger 09-06-2011 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icebear (Post 331584)
Interesting theory. Any proofs for your allegations ? Quoting your own assumptions and rallying calls are nice to read, but where are they from ?



Any proofs or just another itchy feeling between your legs ? ;)

Hmmm! I'd say this is one of the reasons the developers give infrequent information. Ataros says 'Guess' and you ask him for proof????

Go Figure!

Icebear 09-06-2011 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger (Post 331589)
Hmmm! I'd say this is one of the reasons the developers give infrequent information. Ataros says 'Guess' and you ask him for proof????

Go Figure!

Why ? We should stop posting, but he can "guess" ? IMO only an open and regular status report from the developers will restrain people to "guess" or to spread assumptions with no proof.

Ataros 09-06-2011 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icebear (Post 331584)
Any proofs or just another itchy feeling between your legs ? ;)

Try using your own brain to process information not the thing between your legs. When you learn to make logical conclusions you would be able to rely on your own opinion and not beg for proof here and there.

Icebear 09-06-2011 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luthier (Post 330000)
So, barring more botanic discoveries, we’ll have it out no earlier than the end of the day Monday.

My brain process information I read with my eyes. The only logical conclusion for me is that there is no need for assumptions and personal opinions. ;-)

Don't get me wrong, they should take as much time as necessary, but they should also give a one sentence note in here in if they can't meet their own schedule. I'm sure nobody would really worry about.

ingsoc84 09-06-2011 10:55 AM

I'd say..at this point, its out when its out..and I'm just happy they are working on it ;)

Meusli 09-06-2011 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icebear (Post 331600)
My brain process information I read with my eyes. The only logical conclusion for me is that there is no need for assumptions and personal opinions. ;-)

Don't get me wrong, they should take as much time as necessary, but they should also give a one sentence note in here in if they can't meet their own schedule. I'm sure nobody would really worry about.

He says no earlier than end of day Monday, it's deliberately vague to stop posts asking when it is coming. So that meant from Monday night till whenever it is done.

catito14 09-06-2011 12:35 PM

He said Monday ... but he never said WICH monday ;)

Madfish 09-06-2011 12:44 PM

I guess it'll take a while to mow down grass that's 500 feet high. :D

Ze-Jamz 09-06-2011 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madfish (Post 331672)
I guess it'll take a while to mow down grass that's 500 feet high. :D

http://www.ecosmart.com/wp-content/u...ller-large.jpg

''Does exactly what it says on the tin'' :)

And if you look closely, its Eco friendly so Ok for Tree's Dog 'Patch'

lothar29 09-06-2011 01:43 PM

Hey, just need a little help with grass...If not could use you wrong this...

http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/a...araluthier.jpg

It is just a little sense of humor...

:grin::grin:

Ataros 09-06-2011 02:29 PM

It is being tested now http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/showthrea...=1#post1686242

Let's keep fingers crossed for no more grass or trees or bushes today. However anything can go wrong easily of cause at any second like in rocket science :)

David198502 09-06-2011 02:30 PM

so there is a chance that we get it today?

Ze-Jamz 09-06-2011 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ataros (Post 331713)
It is being tested now http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/showthrea...=1#post1686242

Let's keep fingers crossed for no more grass or trees or bushes today. However anything can go wrong easily of cause at any second like in rocket science :)

Nice updates going on over there..

Ataros 09-06-2011 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ze-Jamz (Post 331718)
Nice updates going on over there..

Just old time forum members leaking some bits of info to personal friends as it happens everywhere in the world :) It is not official and they can get fired for this in the worst scenario. Let's be quiet and keep it secret :)

Ze-Jamz 09-06-2011 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ataros (Post 331724)
Just old time forum members leaking some bits of info to personal friends as it happens everywhere in the world :) It is not official and they can get fired for this in the worst scenario. Let's be quiet and keep it secret :)

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-WFlXTI8bge...ippedMouth.gif

Ataros 09-06-2011 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheesehawk (Post 331730)
Ataros, is Ilya in that thread Luthier? Google translating everything is taking time, hehe.

No it is different Ilya. luthier is luthier on that forum too. Nicknames which are in green color are developers but not all of them are developers of CloD. RoF, DCS, WoP devs are also registered there. The thread is a useless "are we there yet?" thread. No need to translate. Better search for Oleg Maddox posts if you like.

Ze-Jamz 09-06-2011 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheesehawk (Post 331756)
Thanks, copy-pasting everything was killing me, although highly entertaining for the translation! ;)

I dont know whats worse..trying to understand Russian or trying to understand Google translator :)

Ataros 09-06-2011 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheesehawk (Post 331756)
Thanks, copy-pasting everything was killing me, although highly entertaining for the translation! ;)

You do not have to copy-paste. Just copy the link to Google and it will translate the whole page. Not much useful info though.

Rextar 09-06-2011 04:00 PM

8.00pm in moscow.
Not today.

Romanator21 09-06-2011 04:01 PM

Maybe they're working on the DM of those rocks... :)

esmiol 09-06-2011 04:05 PM

bouhouhouhou

roadczar 09-06-2011 04:09 PM

Quote:

(Sorry, Not Today)
Should be the company motto.
:)

lothar29 09-06-2011 04:11 PM

Born as a new species of carnivorous plants and the team of luthier cannot fight them! or will other types of grass

http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/a...araluthier.jpg

ala!!;-)

Blackdog_kt 09-06-2011 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jabo2009 (Post 331552)
I appreciate their work, and yes I believe its a lot of work, but I disagree on the communication issue. Its obvious that many people get frustrated because they are waitin for patch release dates that turn out to be fake...

you cant treat customers like that

btw I wont go into senseless discussions here, some people will wait even till end of Sept, some will not. Enough said.

I respectfully disagree. They didn't say on Monday, they said not before Monday. If i want it to come out on Monday so much that i interpret "not before Monday" as meaning "definitely on Monday" then they are not the ones lying to me, it's me lying to myself due to wishful thinking.

Big difference there. ;-)

tk471138 09-06-2011 04:12 PM

you think maybe they hate us??
maybe they want us dead??

adonys 09-06-2011 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt (Post 331799)
I respectfully disagree. They didn't say on Monday, they said not before Monday. If i want it to come out on Monday so much that i interpret "not before Monday" as meaning "definitely on Monday" then they are not the ones lying to me, it's me lying to myself due to wishful thinking.

Big difference there. ;-)

Yeah, but what do you say about Friday, when they said they narrowly missed it? That won't fit for sure the not before Monday thing they've said after.. And two more days after, still no patch ready..

I'm sorry, but it doesn't sounds right to me :(

adonys 09-06-2011 04:35 PM

two more days after are Monday and Tuesday.. I wasn't counting the weekend days at all, I'm no slave trader, you know. :P

Blackdog_kt 09-06-2011 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JUICE (Post 331809)
Maybe we should get some Americans to work on this game. Whiny Russians are just not meant to make working games. BOOP BOOP BOOP

Maybe you should think long and hard before insulting an entire country on a multinational forum again, maybe you also need some "forum vacation" to that effect.

You're about to get the dubious distinction of being the first person i have banned and that's quite an accomplishment, since as most people will tell you i'm quite the easy going fellow.

You have two posts in total, one is this and in the other you called someone a jerk. Consider yourself on two warnings out of three before the ban occurs.

dasSofa 09-06-2011 05:51 PM

Rapidshare link for English Version
 
Here is a Rapidshare link for the English Version https://rapidshare.com/files/3765109...2COD_15527.rar


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