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doghous3 04-08-2011 12:39 AM

I hope you guys realize I've been editing my initial thread with findings as I test/play. First page.

JG4_Helofly 04-08-2011 12:44 AM

+: 1. Slightly improved sound
2. First person bail out
3. Slightly better performance

-: 1. More stutter even over sea

Silverback 04-08-2011 01:10 AM

Sorry guys. good over the ocean(no land in sight) and bad over land even at low settings.

Win 7-64 bit
MB, Asus Maximas III Formula
CPU, I7 875@3.89
RAM,12 gigs 1333
GPU,GTX 460 SLI

I can't think of any reason this sim should not run well on my rig. Can you?

thesean 04-08-2011 01:20 AM

No propper Fullscreen?...odd
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by luthier (Post 255779)
1. The no-full-screen issue is actually a WIP feature. Until today, CoD only supported a pseudo full screen mode, i.e. a stretched window with no borders. Post-patch we'll have three modes: window, pseudo full screen, and true full screen. We just don't have a GUI switch for it yet, and it can't set it right.
This will be addressed in the live version of the patch.


This seems bizarre that the game was released/ at this stage of development and not having a working fullscreen mode? No wonder SLI/Crossfire/AA/ are not working and the performance is so bad. I have never played any game that ran better in Windowed mode than Full screen.

You may call me paranoid, but it really seems they had everything ready to go and running well. Then that whole UBI EP filter thing happened and they have had to tear major parts of there code apart and redo it another way to pass some redundant legal BS that UBI threw at them in the 11 hour. Hence all these problems and rushing out hot fixes to patch up pretty standard stuff. And..to be honest, I think that EP filter "option" is not really putting the game back to how 1C had intended it to be before this whole Epilepsy debacle (the fact some effects are still missing even with it off shows that). And that's why so much stuff still seems unfinished or in development..especially the whole rendering /performance aspect of the game. It's seems obvious they are scrambling to fix that stuff in the wake of major recent change imposed on them..

Anyway, that's just how it seems to an interested observer.

Thanks for the continued patches.

FlyingBollock 04-08-2011 01:27 AM

No change after beta patch install
 
Frame rate seems unchanged. I can play it if I turn most everything down

hc_wolf 04-08-2011 01:39 AM

Dev Team MSAA=4 does not work in external views and Render=d3d10_0
 
Lets just clear up one thing going forward.

MSAA=4 is not giving AAx8 ingame. There maybe some AA working from inside the cockpit view. But all external views are not using any AA at all. It is just looking ok cause the res on all computers are around 1600 or 1980*1020.

I have a gtx285 it is dx10 and should look it in game. Fail it looks like old il2 paint schemes mostly. But I should at least have smooth lines with MSAA=4

I have played with it a lot over the last few days. Also noticed this for Dev team


The Render=d3d10_0 is not working correct. I have found adjusting this to Render=d3d10_43_x64 gives me funny shadows but the game runs smoother.

So i just turn off shadows and then I have big FPS over land.

But changing Render to Render=d3d10_43_x64 seems to disable been able to select AA at all ingame. Even if I hard code MSAA=4 in conf.ini in my documents area not steam... and change the file to read only. The game seems to override this and set AA ot off.


So two things

MSAA is not working

RENDER=D3d10_0 is not working either. I believe game is displaying d3dx9 not dx10


Also what is Megatexture=0 for? If you change to 1 the mission does not load but game does.

Same issue with Fog=0 can load game but not a mission. CPU looks like it is workinghard to load but after 5 mins the loading screen has not progressed.

MaDMaX68 04-08-2011 01:42 AM

seems to have improved
 
i tested using the quick mission, bomber raid over london, before patch everything on high, during fights it was about 20-23 fps, but including ground shots, down to 13-15 fps,,

after the patch i probably gained abuot 5 fps in the air, but including ground shots, about 3-4 fps.

then,
i reduced all my settings to medium that pertain to any ground stuff, but aircraft/damage etc i left high

antiliasing is set to off,

now im getting between 30-55 fps over water and about 28-40 over land!(still stutters a bit)

i am quite happy with the game play:grin:

but i appreciate others are struggling!

personally i will be upgrading my card from ati 6870 to poss a GTX 480 / if and when they patch/fix SLI/CF then i will get another one!

on another note, hat off to the DEVS! i see there were/are some impatient people on here,, but at least you guys are doing the best to give us a great game, i would rather have it as it is than not at all

:mrgreen:

FA_Bowman 04-08-2011 02:10 AM

Has anybody noticed a difference with Crossfire, my fps has gone up by about a 1/4 with it enabled. Hitting 55-60's in the Dover Q/M at 1280x720 with med settings after patch.

AMD Phenom II x4 965 + ATI 4890 x2 8g Kingston Hyper X

O_Smiladon 04-08-2011 02:13 AM

I am sure when they fix the muilti core issue we will gain a lot then.

O_Smiladon

fireship4 04-08-2011 02:16 AM

Specs:

Vista x64 Home Premium
4 GB DDR2 at 400MHz
ATI HD 4870 (512MB) overclocked @ 790/1080
Core 2 Duo E6600 overclocked @ 3.3 GHz
Creative X-Fi Xtreme Music


Settings:

Resolution: 1920*1080 @ 60Hz (native resolution)
Full Screen: On

Detail Level: Custom
Show Advanced: On

Model Detail: High
Buildings Detail: Low
Land Detail: Medium
Forest: Off
Visual Effects: High

Anti-aliasing: Off
Anti-Epilepsy Filter: Off

Damage Decals: High
Buildings Amount: Low
Land Shading: Medium
Grass: Off
Shadows: Off
Roads: On

Audio: Surround


Performance:

No notable difference from before patch. Stuttering when low over land or sea, and every so often in the air (these can be slower stutters which pause the game for longer, but do not happen often?). The former affects the sound aswell, which sometimes cuts out permanently until game is restarted. I have just now had some smooth performance when low over sea (and once over a small part of an island) but it's somewhat random - stutters will come and go. Possible somewhat to do with direction? I was out to sea on the cross vs roundels map for the most part just now and some directions might have been smoother but it was mostly random.

Above low altitude performace over land seems to be worse in general than over sea.

I have had the feeling there might be a memory leak somewhere as I noticed performance degrading gradually as you played the game over a certain period. Im not sure if this is still present in the patch as it is.

I currently play the game exlusively in dog-fights/bomber intercepts, on the cross vs. roundel map (over the sea part) or over the channel. No landings or taking off, and no campaign/training. In these circumstances the game is playable for the most part.

Chivas 04-08-2011 02:18 AM

I'm running 1024x768 full screen as 1920x1200 full screen cause multiple problems. More testing required.

Everything ON and at HIGH

Large performance gain over water. 100fps up to 150+fps

Smaller performance gain over land with far less stuttering. 30fps up to 30-50fps

no performance gain over London with considerable stuttering 19 fps

jt_medina 04-08-2011 03:13 AM

I can't change my screen res any other than the native one in my case 1920x1080 any other different swithes it into window mode.

b101uk 04-08-2011 04:23 AM

Another patch error even if you revert back from the patch to the prior version and the game has tried to use a resolution lower than your desktop resolution with the patch creating a pseudo "window" at some point even though full screen was selected, is the aircraft info text-box that tells you in blue txt that your gear is up/down or your flaps up/down etc has now moved to the centre of the screen so is central to the view/gun sight and is also smaller.

Also the radio info text-box which gives radio subtitles in larger red txt has also move to the left so it is now at the top left of the screen and is also smaller.

And the icon/s that represent the currant throttle position ect have move upward.

manfromx 04-08-2011 04:47 AM

Just tried the patch and the game is a lot smoother over terrain. When everything is loaded into memory it's almost as smooth as water.

I still notice the stuttering when new things are loaded in but it happens for a second or two and then once the area is loaded its smooth flying. Makes me wonder how much smoother this would be if the game could access the rest of my RAM ;).

Looks like I'll be starting the campaign real soon.

Game Video Settings: (Russian Version)
Everything on Highest except building detail and amount (medium) and no AA
1920x1200

System Specs:
Radeon 6970 (2GB)
Intel Quad Core Q8300 running at 3GHZ
8GB Ram
SSD O/S drive - (Win7 Ultimate 64bit)
Game run from 7200RPM Seagate

Kankkis 04-08-2011 05:03 AM

Just tested again, min-medium details(1980*1080), all same when allmost maxed,when the game is smooth and really enjoyable to fly, really liked it.

Stuttering is killing my joy, stuttering is same lower graphics option than higher, stuttering get better when i fly about 15min when textures is loaded on memory better but it's still there very badly. When i start Crosscountry mission there is buildings on my side, i see textures takes really long to load in the buildings and my plane. Maybe longer loading times before game starts can help with this issue, i still wondering those loading times, even first time they are really fast, RoF takes about 1-2minutes to load at first time, after that loading times is decreased.

Buildings and other planes are biggest hog to mee, if those are not visible close, i have really good performance on max settings.

How is the option turn buildings off so there is no buildings so we can test how if affect stuttering.

When it's smoot the feeling of flying is absolutely fantastic and terrain looks so good.

I got some really bad tearing too time to time when i turn my head because no possible enable vsync.(Trackir)

FPS is about 50-60 over land allmost max settings when there is no stuttering, so if we can get rid of it or lower it drastically we got exellent sim here.

ZaltysZ 04-08-2011 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kankkis (Post 256472)
I got some really bad tearing too time to time when i turn my head because no possible enable vsync.(Trackir)

Aero off? Aero usually enforces "vsync" for games in Windowed mode. So far, we don't have real full screen in CoD, so Aero could help with tearing.

GOZR 04-08-2011 05:55 AM

Going higher resolution will make you video card work more, Lower rez and it's more cpu .. meaning yeas something is really wrong !!

Kankkis 04-08-2011 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZaltysZ (Post 256485)
Aero off? Aero usually enforces "vsync" for games in Windowed mode. So far, we don't have real full screen in CoD, so Aero could help with tearing.

Not tested with Aero off, but that tearing is my littlest problem, stuttering is biggest problem.:mad:

If we don't have real fullscreen yet, it maybe help my dual GPU card to start second GPU, games in Windowed mode newer works with Crossfire 2GPU or SLI modes. Starting the game in Windowed mode is only possibility turn off Crossfire mode in my 5970 dual GPU card(Crysis 2 and another games what have some graphics problems with crossfire)

blitze 04-08-2011 06:17 AM

Yeah this is the strange thing, testing a beta patch where there is no full screen mode. I haven't tested the beta myself but I noticed improvements with COD when I told launcher.exe to disable aero when it started.

I will not have time to test the beta properly before the patch release but without I was getting reasonable play on my system but with some micro studders over land.

COD @ 1680 x 1050
Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
E8400 @ 3Ghz
ATI 4870 1Gb
4Gb Ram
128Gb SSD System Drive but with COD installed on a 1Tb secondary drive.
Med Settings for COD except for Building Amount and Trees being very low.
2 x aa ingame
Epilepsy Filter and grass - Off.

BTW AI belly lands the planes, including auto pilot. Some good dog fighting though and trying to bring down those bombers is a challenge with 8 x Brit 303's for your armourment. :)
It must have been a godsend for them when the Hispano 20mm started to be fitted along with .50Cals.

JG52Krupi 04-08-2011 06:30 AM

I find the .303 quite good just the low ammo count worries me, much more ammo in the 109s machine guns

1.JaVA_Sharp 04-08-2011 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi (Post 256503)
I find the .303 quite good just the low ammo count worries me, much more ammo in the 109s machine guns

2400 rounds in all Hurris and Spits. Its the ROF of those guns that makes you blow through that ammo.

HellmaUw 04-08-2011 06:37 AM

Short updatereview from me (my first post ever and sorry for maybe wrong english i´m german and nealy since 30 jears out of shool)

My system
Intel core 2 Quad 2,40 G
Nvidida GTX 470 (sometimes I overclock e little bit)
Vista home 32 Bit
1680-10... (Widescreen)
Trackir 4

I use all settings to middel, gras and so on - all on - AA 2x (I sometime also try 8x but it´s no optical diverence for me).

Since the update my grafic in german campagne is smoother, also over London. I have stutters as before and i have launcher crash as before.

This crashes happens not always in the same situations, so i can´t say what the reason could be. Often they happen when i´m just in a fight - i fight with the standard amount of planes in the mission - all works (with stutters - not easy) there are damaged planes - smoke and so on - no problem and suddenly it crashes. And when i try the same the next time it not problem to end the same mission (faliure of course) without a crash.

At the end I want to say:
I love this sim! The grafic is near to a movie. I would be very happy if you could get this sim as perfekt as possible.

Is it possible, that the patch better works for 32 bit systems?

Gallandwolf 04-08-2011 06:44 AM

I installed the BETA patch yesterday. Couldn't get CoD started so I had to remove the patch. After removal I was able to start the game normally again. For some reason my performance is has been ok from the start even though I get sometimes FPS drop, but only in the begining of a mission. Otherwise it runs well.

Hopefully the real patch would be done so that everyone could install it and enjoy the results.

JG14_Jagr 04-08-2011 06:56 AM

Very Flyable Over London after Patch with the following sttings...
 
I made some settings changes and the result is that on my system is that its very possible to fly on the deck over London with about 30 fps. At higher altitudes the fps goes up to 50 fps.

Now, I have a good rig and the game ran pretty well for me pre patch, but not over major developed areas like London. Wasn't a slide show but it got close to single digits. This is the "Russian" version of the game with the "Russian" version patch.

I will post my in game video settings first..

1920X1200
Models-HIGH
Building Detail-VERY LOW
Land Detail-HIGH
Forest-HIGH
Visual Effects-HIGH
AA-Off (doesn't seem to be working anyway)
Decals-HIGH
Building Amount-HIGH
Land Shading-HIGH
Grass-OFF
Shadows-OFF
Roads-ON

(Grass and Shadows seem to have a major impact to me..even more than "Forests")

My Conf.ini

[BOB]
EpilepsyFilter=0

[window]
DepthBits=24
StencilBits=8
DrawIfNotFocused=0
SaveAspect=0
Render=D3D10_0
width=1920
height=1200
ColourBits=32
FullScreen=1
ChangeScreenRes=1
Frequency=60

[NET]
speed=100000
localPort=27015
serverName=My Server
serverDescription=IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover
serverInfo1=
serverInfo2=
serverInfo3=
serverInfo4=
VAC=1
maxPlayers=16
socksEnable=0
socksHost=
socksPort=1080
socksUser=
socksPwd=
host=74.73.250.33
port=21003

[Console]
IP=20001
UseStartLog=1
WRAP=1
PAUSE=1
HISTORY=1024
HISTORYCMD=1024
PAGE=20
LOG=0
LOGTIME=0
LOAD=console.cmd
SAVE=console.cmd
LOGFILE=log.txt
LOGKEEP=0

[rts]
tickLen=30
ProcessAffinityMask=15
maxTimerTicksInRealTick=20
; 0 - not use, 1 - show cursor and not capture, 2 - not show cursor, and capture
mouseUse=2
; 0 - not use, 1 - use if hardware exist
joyUse=1
; 0 - not use, 1 - use if hardware exist
trackIRUse=1
DisableIME=0
culture=en-GB

[rts_mouse]
SensitivityX=1.0
SensitivityY=1.0
SensitivityZ=1.0
Invert=0
SwapButtons = 0

[rts_joystick]
FF=1

[core]
RandSeed=0
TexQual=3
TexFlags.PolygonStipple=0
Shadows=0
SpecularLight=2
DiffuseLight=2
DynamicalLights=1
MeshDetail=2
LandShading=2
LandDetails=2
Sky=3
Forest=3
VisibilityDistance=4
LandGeom=2
DrawCollisions=1
Water=-1
Effects=2
EffFlags.Light=1
EffFlags.SpriteRender=0
Grass=-1
CordEffect=1
UseFog=0
UseLandCube=1
UseLandConnectedObject=1
LinearObjectManager=1
Roads=1
Sun=1
Clouds=1
EffFlags.LightSpritesProj=1
ShadowMapSize=5
TexFlags.AsyncLoad=1
TexFlags.ShowTexture=0
SimpleMesh.SWTransform=0
SimpleMesh.QuadTreeClip=1
SimpleMesh.InstancingHW=1
EffFlags.LightContextSprites=1
CloudsFlags.Detailed=1
TexFlags.CreateHDR=1
Decals=2
EffFlags.SWLight=0
TexFlags.CockpitOnePass=0
MegaTexture=0
TexFlags.Reflection=0
RenderTargetQual=3
MSAA=0
MeshStatics=2
MeshStaticsDetail=0
SimpleMesh.QTNoCompose=0
MeshFirstLod=0
MeshShowLod=0
SpawnHumans=0
TexFlags.FastTransparency=1

[sound]
SoundUse=1
DebugSound=0
SoundEngine=1
Speakers=1
Placement=0
SoundFlags.reversestereo=0
RadioFlags.Enabled=1
RadioEngine=2
MusicVolume=14
ObjectVolume=7
MusState.takeoff=1
MusState.inflight=1
MusState.crash=1
MusFlags.play=1
MasterVolume=14
Attenuation=7
SoundMode=0
SamplingRate=0
NumChannels=2
SoundExt.occlusions=1
SoundFlags.hardware=1
SoundFlags.streams=1
SoundFlags.duplex=1
SoundExt.acoustics=1
SoundExt.volumefx=1
SoundFlags.voicemgr=1
SoundFlags.static=1
VoiceVolume=8
Channels=1
SoundFlags.bugscorrect=0
SoundExt.extrender=0
SoundSetupId=8
ActivationLevel=0.02
Preemphasis=0.8
RadioLatency=0.5
AGC=1
PTTMode=1
RadioFlags.PTTMode=0
RadioFlags.PlayClicks=1
ActLevel=9
MicLevel=10
SoundFlags.UseRadioChatter=0
SoundFlags.AutoActivation=0
SoundFlags.forceEAX1=0
speakers=1

And finally, proof is in the video documentation....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXs2T0NGXJw

slightly higher..the video seems to show a couple of very brief pauses, but I don't think hey actually are "pauses" I think they were cause by stick inputs..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-0BmJxNUk4

I flew through London Bridge and turned left over the city as the recording began.. heading away from the Thames.. The results were pretty consistant with the only difference being at a little higher altitide you could see the buildings drawing around you a lot more..but the fps seemed to be the same regardless..just didn't look as cool :)

I will say this, when you fly over london and see the buildings drawing you have to think "Holy Cow, thats a lot of triangles to draw!"

Tvrdi 04-08-2011 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZaltysZ (Post 256485)
Aero off? Aero usually enforces "vsync" for games in Windowed mode. So far, we don't have real full screen in CoD, so Aero could help with tearing.

So its Aero...I forgot that I turned OFF Aero just before patching and noticed tearing although I have vsync on....thanks for the input

AMVI_Superblu 04-08-2011 07:14 AM

With more accurate testing i noticed a nice FPS gain and Stutter reduction over land, no issues over water.
Only thing is the screen resolution issue (see my previous post #125 )

Settings all set High, Buildings and Trees @ Low
Res. 1920x1080,60Hz

Please note that these tests are being made with a 32Bit O.S. (My copy of Win7 x64 still on trip)


Keep up the good work, with some more slightly optimization will be ok !

If it can help, i remember about ArmA:Armed Assault from Bohemia Interactive having same FPS/Stutter Issues as Cliffs Of Dover after his release.. as far as i know they solved it by optimizing Buildings and Trees textures with little less complex ones and reducing the number of LOD transition on Buildings.

My Rig.

AMD Phenom II x6 1090T 3.2Ghz
2x 2GB RAM Corsair DDR3 1333Mhz 8-8-8-24
AMD/ATI HD 4650 1GB Dx10.1
Corsair 800W PSU
2x SATA-2 6GB/s Raid 0
Win7 Ultimate 32 Bit

Gonna keep testing ;)


S!

Kankkis 04-08-2011 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tvrdi (Post 256525)
So its Aero...I forgot that I turned OFF Aero just before patching and noticed tearing although I have vsync on....thanks for the input

You cannot force vsync on, it's not working with this game, it's off.

There is hope that real "Full screen" maybe works better.

Kankkis

Tvrdi 04-08-2011 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kankkis (Post 256529)
You cannot force vsync on, it's not working with this game, it's off.

There is hope that real "Full screen" maybe works better.

Kankkis

really, then trackir is useless in COD as I have tearing....

:fi:wardog 04-08-2011 07:28 AM

Hi

I installed the patch as directed and when I tried to fly a quick mission the game launcher failed and shut the game down.

I was looking forward to trying this out to see if there was an increase in FPS over land but no joy.

Kankkis 04-08-2011 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tvrdi (Post 256531)
really, then trackir is useless in COD as I have tearing....

i'll try D3Doverrider, it's best vsync forcing program because it supports Force Triple buffering also.

Kankkis

tintifaxl 04-08-2011 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kankkis (Post 256529)
You cannot force vsync on, it's not working with this game, it's off.

There is hope that real "Full screen" maybe works better.

Kankkis

I have it force vsync in the nvidia control panel and it seems to work. I don't notice any tearing.

Performance for me has not improved with the patch. But setting texture quality to performance in the nvidia control panel raised the fps by ~15%.

Still much stuttering flying over cities. Also stuttering when approaching bombers (I guess when the LOD changes to high detail, and the textures have to be loaded).

I would also conclude that the main problem is the loading of terrain and textures, cuasing the sim to freeze.

klem 04-08-2011 07:52 AM

This may havebeen reported, I have a lot to do today and no time to read all 23 pages - a good sign that many are testing :)

Multiplayer - Client
The beta patch has taken away those naked text boxes for Spawn Aircraft group and replaced them with properly tailored menu items although they do the same job.
You no longer have 'Change your plane' on the multiplayer pick-list. A map now appears on which, having chosen your side, you click on one of the airfields that the mission creator has populated with a/c and then pick from what's available.

One problem is there is nothing to tell you which fields they are unless its somehow in the brief (which I haven't tried) but they should at least be highlighted, say Red or Blue like they were in IL-2.
Also I didn't get a list of existing Flights already created by the mission or new ones created by others in the game, it seemed I could only create a new Flight but I could be missing something.

FPS
Its hard for me to say on this as I had pretty good FPS before although much lower over London. My impression is that it is a little smoother (or I am just getting used to it?) but my low level FPS did seem to be a little improved over London but not by much. I'm sorry I can't be more objective.

Views
I had TrackIR problems originally where the TIR seemed to be unpredictable and repositioned my head very often, especially left and right. It still does it but either its not so much or I am just getting used to it. It is a pain though and if there's anything that can be done that would be great. I am constantly pressing my "Centre TrackIR" button. I get a similar but far less effect in IL-2 (I know thats a mod but its also a reference). Worst of all is the vertical range I get with TIR. It seems I can only look up and down by a limited amount. If I centre TIR on my gunsight I can move my view quite a way upwards but only down to the bottom of the instrument panel. If I centre it on the instrument panel I can then look down at the lower controls but I can't look much above the front canopy frame. I don't think it's a TIR problem as the TIR scale/grid view continues to move beyond the cockpit range.

ASUS Sabertooth mobo
i7 950 @ 4GHz
6Gb DDR3 RAM
EVGA GTX570 GPU
850W PSU
Coolermaster HAF912+ case
Samsung 22" 226BW @ 1680 x 1050
X52 HOTAS
X45 miscellaneous controls

Kankkis 04-08-2011 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klem (Post 256549)
If I centre it on the instrument panel I can then look down at the lower controls but I can't look much above the front canopy frame. I don't think it's a TIR problem as the TIR scale/grid view continues to move beyond the cockpit range.

Be sure you don't have pressed Shift+F1 then TIR movement is limited.

609_Huetz 04-08-2011 08:01 AM

After intensive testing yesterday and this morning:

No significant improvement in performance (~5 fps) over land and sea.

A lot of micro-stutters still in combat and in normal flight.

A lot of micro-stutters when flying really close to enemy planes.

London is still far from being smooth and unplayable when other a/c are involved.

System Specs:

C2Q Q3.2 GHZ
4 GB DDR2
Sapphire HD 5770 1 GB DDR5
Vista 64

Game Settings:

1280x1024
All High
Except:
Trees: Low
Buildings: Low

Eklund89 04-08-2011 08:04 AM

As a server i got alot of error boxes appearing saying things like "wrong insignia on group" or somthing like that. there were several different messages. I think the people on the server trying to change stuff make them appear but i have no idea. this happend when i was just flying around so i didn't cause them myself as far as i know.

Zaltor 04-08-2011 08:08 AM

FPS before and after patch
----------------------------

In water battles I get 35-40 "13915" 40-45 "13820"
over london I get 10-15 "13915" 10-15 "13820"
Micro stutters seem gone.

Possible Bug
--------------
I strafed the oil container in london and it exploded
this caused a chain reaction explosion the whole city wide
and fps went to "0" did this several times with the same results.


Game settings
---------------

1920x1200
8x AA
Anti Epi filter off
everything max except trees medium and shadows low.

DX/system info


System Information
--------------------

Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Premium (6.0, Build 6002) Service Pack 2 (6002.vistasp2_gdr.101014-0432)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: System manufacturer
System Model: System Product Name
BIOS: BIOS Date: 08/24/10 18:04:07 Ver: 08.00.15
Processor: AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 965 Processor (4 CPUs), ~3.8GHz
Memory: 8190MB RAM
Page File: 3021MB used, 13094MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11


Display Devices
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klem 04-08-2011 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kankkis (Post 256553)
Be sure you don't have pressed Shift+F1 then TIR movement is limited.

Nope, it's in the normal FOVs. Shift+1 limits sideviews to my "shoulders" in the a/c which I think is a bit tight but I don't use anyway as the FOV90 is all I need.

Jotaele 04-08-2011 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klem (Post 256549)
This may havebeen reported, I have a lot to do today and no time to read all 23 pages - a good sign that many are testing :)

Multiplayer - Client
The beta patch has taken away those naked text boxes for Spawn Aircraft group and replaced them with properly tailored menu items although they do the same job.
You no longer have 'Change your plane' on the multiplayer pick-list. A map now appears on which, having chosen your side, you click on one of the airfields that the mission creator has populated with a/c and then pick from what's available.

One problem is there is nothing to tell you which fields they are unless its somehow in the brief (which I haven't tried) but they should at least be highlighted, say Red or Blue like they were in IL-2.
Also I didn't get a list of existing Flights already created by the mission or new ones created by others in the game, it seemed I could only create a new Flight but I could be missing something.

FPS
Its hard for me to say on this as I had pretty good FPS before although much lower over London. My impression is that it is a little smoother (or I am just getting used to it?) but my low level FPS did seem to be a little improved over London but not by much. I'm sorry I can't be more objective.

Views
I had TrackIR problems originally where the TIR seemed to be unpredictable and repositioned my head very often, especially left and right. It still does it but either its not so much or I am just getting used to it. It is a pain though and if there's anything that can be done that would be great. I am constantly pressing my "Centre TrackIR" button. I get a similar but far less effect in IL-2 (I know thats a mod but its also a reference). Worst of all is the vertical range I get with TIR. It seems I can only look up and down by a limited amount. If I centre TIR on my gunsight I can move my view quite a way upwards but only down to the bottom of the instrument panel. If I centre it on the instrument panel I can then look down at the lower controls but I can't look much above the front canopy frame. I don't think it's a TIR problem as the TIR scale/grid view continues to move beyond the cockpit range.

ASUS Sabertooth mobo
i7 950 @ 4GHz
6Gb DDR3 RAM
EVGA GTX570 GPU
850W PSU
Coolermaster HAF912+ case
Samsung 22" 226BW @ 1680 x 1050
X52 HOTAS
X45 miscellaneous controls

You have to set the head translaton in x y and z, very low in trackir software, like 1 or less, and notice that your head in game is leaning due to pilot body compensating when the planes banks, that can confuse you, im starting to be used to contrarrest with my body leaning in the oposite side , like in a bicicle.The up down movement is very limited like in the most of the game , due that you are stucked into a chair and its supposed that you can raised or down too much.

ZaltysZ 04-08-2011 08:43 AM

i7 920, GTX470, 6GB, Win7 x64.

Objects, landscape, effects, land shadows on medium, everything else off or very low. Shadows are on. Resolution 1440x900.

Stutters near ground are reduced when compared to pre beta.

6vs6 fights over channel are about 45-70 fps, however it drops to 25fps sometimes. Such drops were not frequent in pre beta. Something has changed.

Trees and shadows still cause the biggest hit (fps get down to 15-25 fps over small town).

P.S.: Luthier, I don't know the details, but NVIDIA has something changed/removed in 4xx,5xx cards, so some techniques (undocumented shortcuts) can't work correctly on them. I.e., there was problems in RoF with shadows and textures with these particular cards. As CoD was developed so long (starting way before these cards appeared), it could be that it also uses something what these cards don't like.

Kuky 04-08-2011 08:58 AM

I tried the patch yesterday and got much worse performance... FPS were connstant at about 5-6 FPS on High settings (before the patch it was 30-40 but stuttering a lot so it was not playable, over water it's good but close to land and it starts stuttering a lot)

my specs:
- Windows 7 64bit Home Premium (page file disabled, all updates for OS installed)
- 12GB RAM DDR3
- i7 950 @ 4GHz
- HD 5870 1GB RAM (Catalyst 11.3, monitor resolution 1920x1200)
- X-Fi Titanium PCIe
- Corsair HX850 PSU
- OCZ Vertex 2 120GB SSD (OS and all software installed on it)

1337Avi80R 04-08-2011 09:24 AM

Max FPS: 40, Min FPS: 14, Average: 29-30 FPS - Free Flight over France
Big stutters from time to time but overall a slight performance increase but really not very much.

Settings:
1680x1050, Fullscreen
Modeldetail: High
Buildingdetail: Very low
Landscapedetail: Low
Trees: Off
Visual Effects: High
Damagedetail: High
Buildingamount: Low
Landscapeshading: Low
Grass: Off
Shadows: On
Roads: On

Changing settings after having startet a mission caused the launcher to crash. Other tests showed that buildings are the no. 1 FPS killer for me. With everything else on high except for buildings I have almost the same FPS as with the settings stated above.

Also it is nice to see that the strange gunneryproblem has been addressed:!: :grin:

My PC specs:

Mainboard: Gigabyte P55 UD3L
CPU:Intel Core I5 760
GPU:ATI Radeon 4870
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 4Gb
Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Service Pack 1
Powered by an Enermax Liberty 400W

56RAF_Witch 04-08-2011 09:37 AM

installed beta patch.

Damage model, when I damage enemy planes a tree comes out of the damaged area?

Hurricane Radiator, outside view of flap is fixed.

Hurricane mixture lever, when mixture is on 100% lever shows WEAK not RICH.


Witch

W0ef 04-08-2011 09:50 AM

Installed Patch

System: I5 2500k @ stock
Graphics: Radeon HD6970 2GB Vram Overclocked
Mem: 8GB DD3 (Kingston)

Updated my system recently to cope with this game. Seems to run quite fine now at 1380x768 max settings (only buildings amount set to high instead of unlimited). Only dips in FPS and stuttering are when I fly over major cities like London, seems the buildings could use some serious optimizing. Also AA seems not to be working right now even if you set it to 8.

Another thing that is bugging me a bit is that the colours on my Radeon seem quite washed out compared to some Nvidia screens I see. And I have three horizontal blue lines on my horizon often (like mentioned in other posts as well). Will post a screenshot when I get back home.

But yeah, game runs rather smooth most of the time for me now.

Fansadox 04-08-2011 10:28 AM

"Tower this Puma" "FPS still terrible, stuttering all over the place request for landing."

Intel core I7 920 @ 3.8Ghz
Ocz 12GB DDR3 Reaper
Gigabyte GA-EX58 Extreme bios version F12
Zalman ZM1000-hp 1000w PSU
Gigabyte GTX480
Nvidia 270.51 drivers
Windows 7 64bit Pro Servicepack 1

JG5_emil 04-08-2011 10:45 AM

couple of small graphical issues I noticed

I shot at a Do17 and when I hit the engine a tree/shrub/bush flew out of it.

When hit by a 110 I saw tracers flying out the side of my aircraft.

Performance has increased for me and I can run forests with virtually no hit to fps which is nice and makes the landscape look fantastic. Still having to run a much lower resolution and still getting micro stutters when buildings pop up. Sound is a little messed up also.

Feathered_IV 04-08-2011 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 56RAF_Witch (Post 256643)
installed beta patch.

Damage model, when I damage enemy planes a tree comes out of the damaged area?

Witch

I've just got to see a screenshot of that! :grin:

Buzpilot 04-08-2011 11:06 AM

Quote:

Views
I had TrackIR problems originally where the TIR seemed to be unpredictable and repositioned my head very often, especially left and right. It still does it but either its not so much or I am just getting used to it. It is a pain though and if there's anything that can be done that would be great. I am constantly pressing my "Centre TrackIR" button. I get a similar but far less effect in IL-2 (I know thats a mod but its also a reference). Worst of all is the vertical range I get with TIR. It seems I can only look up and down by a limited amount. If I centre TIR on my gunsight I can move my view quite a way upwards but only down to the bottom of the instrument panel. If I centre it on the instrument panel I can then look down at the lower controls but I can't look much above the front canopy frame. I don't think it's a TIR problem as the TIR scale/grid view continues to move beyond the cockpit range.

Could be 'TrueView', if it's on try disable it in your Trackir profile.

senseispcc 04-08-2011 11:18 AM

I see that the flaps and landing gear has been fixed, thanks.

A fine GAME nearly a simulation.

mayestdo 04-08-2011 11:24 AM

Before installing the patch, a question: Can it be uninstalled if things get worse? How do I uninstall it?

BobTuck 04-08-2011 11:31 AM

The patch has made a slight FPS improvement for me at all settings and test missions, and has changed the nature of the stutters from big random ones, to small, regularly spaced stutters. In the test results below, stutters are present unless otherwise stated.

Test settings are as follows:

CPU = Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 (2.4GHz)
RAM = 4GB
Graphics = GeForce GTX460
OS = Windows7 Prof 64bit

Resolution = 1280x800
Fullscreen = yes
Anti-Alias = x2
Detail = High
F10 panel = off
Clouds = off
user ini files = tweaked :) - see them here (around page 10): http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=20055

Tests:

Quick Mission 2 - Freeflight - England
flying over Dover:
original FPS = 9 to 12
post-patch FPS = 14 to 17

flying over Shepherdswell & countryside:
original FPS = 17 to 22
post-patch FPS = 20 to 25

Quick Mission 4 - Freeflight - London
low flying over Thames:
original FPS = 3 to 7
post-patch FPS = 4 to 8

Quick Mission 1 - Freeflight - Channel
stutters = No
original FPS = 50
post-patch FPS = 52

Quick Mission 5 - Cross Country - England
flying low just after takeoff:
original FPS = 20
post-patch FPS = 25


I also noticed several things:
  • The control tower has been fixed!
  • Crash animation much faster and smoother :oops:
  • Waving grass fast and smooth
  • land shading from crash site smoke was occasionally glitching with black triangle shape


Regards,
BobTuck.

Flanker35M 04-08-2011 11:32 AM

S!

You can make a back-up of the game in Steam. OR you can first extract the patch in a folder, check which files/folders it has and copy originals to a safe place :)

plokkum 04-08-2011 11:38 AM

I run a

QX6800
8GB RAM.
XFX 8800GTX

Never had any trouble running any game on maxed out settings, but Il-2 COD runs at an awful 2 to 5 frames per second. Even though I'm above the recommended specs. The beta patch didn't fix anything for me.

It's so unplayable I'm going to put my CH-joystick setup back in the closet until everything is fixed. I'm thankful for 1C releasing COD, though. Let's just iron out those bugs (of which I didn't know until I bought the game).

dragon9 04-08-2011 11:54 AM

Firstly only getting a slight inprovement in fps up high but at ground level there is still stuttering in graphics. My settings are 1680x1050 at medium settings.The game is playable but needs further improvement.

My main concern atm is Multiplayer I had it working fine until the patch. We do not have a Menu anymore to change planes and spawn new aircraft.Once i get in on the mission i can only look from the outside. I can not spawn in any aircraft.

my specs
windows 7 64bit home premium
intel dual core 6850
4 gb ram
gigabyte nvidia 560 TI 1gb ram
xfx 680 lt motherboard

thanks and goodluck with the next patch

Ali Fish 04-08-2011 12:25 PM

a possible point to note : whilst iam applying this patch for testing iam noticing that within steam, IL2 is "always" reverting back to the keep me updated setting, every time i set it & launch the game & exit i have to reset it again. on many occasions i have noticed the small steam box "steam has finished updating IL2. im sure this is causing some anomolies when testing.

minus10 04-08-2011 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ali Fish (Post 256791)
a possible point to note : whilst iam applying this patch for testing iam noticing that within steam, IL2 is "always" reverting back to the keep me updated setting, every time i set it & launch the game & exit i have to reset it again. on many occasions i have noticed the small steam box "steam has finished updating IL2. im sure this is causing some anomolies when testing.

I noticed the same. At least the Cloud setting stays as you set it, i.e. off. The idea of having two rigs running CoD and sharing a config is amusing.

Hatch 04-08-2011 01:03 PM

Wouldn't it be of more use to accompany your findings with a log file like this?

http://forums.techarena.in/windows-software/1111018.htm

Might make it easier to compile statistics.

ZaltysZ 04-08-2011 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragon9 (Post 256756)
My main concern atm is Multiplayer I had it working fine until the patch. We do not have a Menu anymore to change planes and spawn new aircraft.Once i get in on the mission i can only look from the outside. I can not spawn in any aircraft.

Click small icons on map. Create/select planes commands are accessible through them.

adonys 04-08-2011 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mayestdo (Post 256715)
Before installing the patch, a question: Can it be uninstalled if things get worse? How do I uninstall it?

Use JSGME. There are a few utils all gamers should know about and use. This is one of the most important of them.

BigPickle 04-08-2011 01:31 PM

right click on your game in steam-select properties-select update and click on verify game cache. It will revert it back to original game.

When offical patch comes out its signed so you wont be able to revert this way.

meltac 04-08-2011 02:07 PM

the new beta-patch very slightly improved my performance ingame.
Nevertheless i get very good fps rates in all situations:

config:

AMD Phenom II X4 955 3,2GHz
4GB RAM
Asus HD6950 2GB RAM

Game config:

anti-aliasing: 8x
model-detail: full
effects: full
damage-model: full
trees: very low
buildings: few
shadows: off

any other details level on "mid"

resolution: 1440x900

FPS over Water with 12 planes: between 90 and 120

FPS over ground with towns: 50 - 80

well, this is very acceptable for me and i think that it depends to 90% on the graphics card that it is running so well. So as the already mentioned in the manual, that u need the latest hardware by 2011, u mainly need to upgrade ur graphics card to get acceptable playable fps . thats the main spot u should consider.
The game itself is great and evertime i shoot a spit/hurri my breast fills with pride (flying under 95% realistic conditions).

i only can go down on my knees before the 1c team for doing such a great game and i'm sure that it will be better and better with every new patch!

jt_medina 04-08-2011 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by :fi:wardog (Post 256532)
Hi

I installed the patch as directed and when I tried to fly a quick mission the game launcher failed and shut the game down.

I was looking forward to trying this out to see if there was an increase in FPS over land but no joy.

1- Remove the con.ini a new one will be created.
2-Go to the graphical configuration, set your graphics settings and leave the game.
3-Go back in again. It worked for me.

bigchump 04-08-2011 02:49 PM

i-7 970, 2xGTX560 270.51, 12gb cheap ram, W7/64U 1680x1050 all settings high except grass=off, building amount=small and forest=low.

Getting a black screen on startup every time. That didn't happen before patch.
Stutters when flying low over ground have gotten worse.

Wandalen 04-08-2011 03:40 PM

Improved game with a 10% fps. More stable and playable.
Still some Loader.exe crash in multiplayer.

Rigge1988 04-08-2011 03:58 PM

No difference for me, still stuttering over land and low fps in general, all medium settings except buildings set to low and trees to very low.

Average fps is about 15.

Specs: i7-920 @ 2.80ghz, 6gb ram, s-ata2 HDD, ATi Radeon HD5770 1gb GDDR5, W7 64x Ultimate.

satan 04-09-2011 07:08 AM

map error
 
i found this map error -sunken rectangle of terrain.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/thetins...1779/lightbox/

jf1981 04-09-2011 07:19 AM

Hi

No significant improvement of FPS.

Rather looks like the graphic card is not really used cause my spec is quite high,
NVidia GTX 260
AMD Phenom 4 core
4 Gb Ram

Osprey 04-09-2011 09:11 PM

I'm confused. I've updated via Steam and my game version is now 1.00.13954
This appears to be later than the advertised patch. Is this correct or should I be downloading and running the patch??

Sauf 04-09-2011 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Osprey (Post 258566)
I'm confused. I've updated via Steam and my game version is now 1.00.13954
This appears to be later than the advertised patch. Is this correct or should I be downloading and running the patch??

1.00.13954 is the correct one mate, it was auto updated via steam overwriting the beta patch which was a manual install to test for bugs.

klem 04-09-2011 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigchump (Post 257016)
i-7 970, 2xGTX560 270.51, 12gb cheap ram, W7/64U 1680x1050 all settings high except grass=off, building amount=small and forest=low.

Getting a black screen on startup every time. That didn't happen before patch.
Stutters when flying low over ground have gotten worse.

I heard that if you click on the opening 'cross-hair' screen it will prevent the black screen.

Osprey 04-09-2011 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sauf (Post 258569)
1.00.13954 is the correct one mate, it was auto updated via steam overwriting the beta patch which was a manual install to test for bugs.

Thanks mate

matsher 04-09-2011 10:36 PM

Good and bad
 
Hi guys,

The new patch had some interesting results.

Overall -
1. far less stuttering but still there every +-12 - 20sec - Plays a bit Smoother
2. Bullet splashes on water/ground no longer effect fps (before patch splashes would make fps 0-1) so good improvement there.
2. Smoke still crushes FPS to 3-4 fps for a few seconds
3. COD is now crashing/freezing forcing restart... Sometimes it crashes the whole PC - Very bad... It can't run even for an hour - mostly less till crash/freeze
4. Noticable difference between cockpit on and cockpit off +/- 4-5 fps in wonderview.
5. I loaded up Calais dog fight and Dover dogfight Quick missions, both couldn't do more than 1 fps - on 1280x960 (Med - low settings settings- no grass, Very low trees, low building, med land shading, Model high, effects med etc

Its a step in the right direction - but still a ways to go yet. Thanks for the effort.


BEFORE PATCH
Trying to fly over channel 2v2 or 1v2 spit v 109
1680x1080 (native res) - Grass off - trees off- roads off- all ground details lowest. Model High, damage med effects: high
average:8fps or so cockpit off: 9-10fps
Major stutters and slow downs.
Coudn't fly over land at all - average: 3-5fps in 1st training mission.

AFTER NEWEST PATCH 1.03954
Far less stutter - almost playable over water average 10-11 fps
with cockpit off - about 14-18fps
Now can go over land but still not good 8-11 fps

Lowered my res to 1280x960 and can actually fight over water. YAY!
Still big stuttered but not so frequent. I also increased my setting a little bit.
Over land between 6-19 fps up and down a lot (Freeflight)
Tried calais and Dover dogfight missions - 1 fps for both in cockpit :(

PC:
Win XP SP3 - DX9
Mobo: Asus M2N-SLI Deluxe
CPU: AMD Phenom II x4 955BE - 3.2
GPU: Nvid 260 GTX - 896mb
Ram: 3gb DDR2 667 (In Game only uses 1.6gb RAM - Also running the pc as well - it that important???)
HD: 200gb - 7200rpm (Its quite full - maybe 15gb free space)

bob_baer 04-10-2011 10:15 AM

Map
 
It seems the little map is not working. Will you put a plane manual on line or it's not in your plan?
Thanks

wedmonds 04-10-2011 01:58 PM

Since the patch I have keys stopping working.
I get purple sea at times when I never had this before the patch
I get hangs on the graphics but continue to hear the sounds as if the game is still playing.
On occasion the game freezes and I lose keyboard and mouse functions and power!. Reboot required. (does not sound like it would be the game but it has not happend on anything else but this game so I have added it)

* graphics were pretty darn good before patch and the FPS were fine so dont have anything to compare against to show if there is improvement.

Bang0o 09-07-2011 02:07 PM

after the patch game does not start anymore

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
Intel C2Q 9550
4 GB DDR2 Ram
ATI HD4890 (latest drivers installed)
Resolution: 2048x1152

Raggz 09-07-2011 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bang0o (Post 332600)
after the patch game does not start anymore

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
Intel C2Q 9550
4 GB DDR2 Ram
ATI HD4890 (latest drivers installed)
Resolution: 2048x1152

Well, that might be that this thread is dead old and if you downloaded THIS beta patch, then you got an old one. Wake up :P

wolf74 09-07-2011 06:58 PM

With new beta patch, I have a degrade in fps, about 5-10 fps without cloud (in free flight quick mission) and a major fps hit (10-15) with more clouds, in particoular in quick mission "british attack - bridge" and "british attack - column". Stutter is the same, still present but playable.
My PC:
Intel Q6600@3,2 Ghz
MB Asus P5K
GeForce GTX275 968MB
RAM DDR2 4GB
Audio Card: Xonar DX
Resolution 1920*1080

Game config:
terrain: high
forest: low
damage decal: high
model: high
building detail: very low
building number: low
texture: high
AA: 2x
full screen
terrain shadow: medium
shadow: no
street: yes
grass: yes
Ciao.

Cataplasma 09-07-2011 07:16 PM

no sli
 
...still no SLI support, why?


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seagate Barracuda 1.5TB SATA2 32MB
microsoft Windows 7 Home Prem 64bit
acer GD245HQ 24" HD 1920x1080 3D 120Hz 2ms 80000:1
nvidia 3D vision bundle

mazex 09-07-2011 07:23 PM

Take this thread out behind a shed and shoot it. It's really confusing as it's about a patch that is months old...

Cataplasma 09-07-2011 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mazex (Post 332789)
Take this thread out behind a shed and shoot it. It's really confusing as it's about a patch that is months old...


this is the right thread...
Old beta, new beta...it doesn't matter!
we all mean "beta"!

Cataplasma 09-07-2011 07:30 PM

you just have to say "beta" and be happy!

Vengeanze 09-07-2011 07:52 PM

I was insanely happy for about 23 seconds.

Friggin newbees.

Bobb4 09-07-2011 08:36 PM

Can an admin PLEASE remove this thread..................;)


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