erm a giant mass of strings n wings

close but no cigar

one variant of Catalina?

sorry but no. Think WWII British Aircraft manufacturer with a history of seaplanes.

Is that DeHavilland Hornet part of the question? Its one of my favourite fighters. I can tell that its a Hornet F mk3 too because it has the extended tail fin.

No idea about the bi plane though. Looks a bit like a Sunderland though so maybe its an earlier plane built by Shorts?

Yeah De Haviland Sea Hornet
and no not a Shorts.

lol Damn it. I can even see the arrester hook. Its a F.mk20 then. (naval version of the F.mk3)

Win, now only the seaplane to go

Well I had to look in a book to find out what it is. I guess thats cheating so I wont say what it is. I will give a clue though lol............ I am the Great Sea Eggman.

haha maybe not

Nice...on that basis I will say the Supermarine Walrus.

Excellent clueing there my friend!

Congratulations
Supermarine Walrus
and
De Haviland Sea Hornet

whats this?

something like a Do-305 or something like that

nope sorry
close though

Do-335 Pfeil

Do-335

Edit: shucks to slow

What is this plane?

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x...bigolplane.jpg

convair xb 36?

yep

B-36 "Peacemaker

Ugly

Used to fly from Burtonwood, Noisy buggers.

it's amazing to see what kinda PLanes came out in the 50'ies and 60'ies!
first they went all out Jet Propulled and later Models with Piston Engines came back?!

Convair B-36 "Peacemaker"..... the piston engines suffered from overheating pronlems because of the pusher arrangement.

The jets were to assist take off and climbing to altitude when burdened with maximum payload. Once at the desired altitude they were shut down to conserve fuel.

The aircraft had two seperate fule systems for each engine type.

Some carried a Lockheed Goblin in tests or F-84 as a "parasite fighter" during the Korean War.

pussher props also had another problem
like with jets they had a higher stalling speed cos the prop pushes air over the wing faster than the air speed with a jet or pusher prop that doesnt happen

YAY design flaws

Whoever said B-36 first wins

Here's an easy one just for Wissam24:

Boeing 747??
















;)

vulcan's is a Sud se-210 caravelle, and Flynlion's is a traffic cop with a bad attitude and an ah-64 apache.

What's with the funny hat choppers like that one wear sometimes

2 points for KozzmO :grin:

The funny hat is an electronics package carried by the "longbow' version of the Apache to snoop over terrain. I love that picture, though I suspect it is probably a photoshop. It was sent to me by a good buddy who was an Apache pilot in Iraq. Here's one of him giving his little girl a flying lesson:

I'm not quite sure I believe that, it looks like maybe the rotor broke so they had to reattach it with a giant nail.

The longbow will be in trouble if it encounters enemies with flying hammers.

An aircraft with a funny hat deserves to be followed by one with a funny name:

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...ozz/plane3.jpg

all identifying marks have been blurred out, so no use looking for them.

is it a mirage maybe a rafel?

Mirage III?

And yeah, the Apache photo is a photoshop.

On the other hand, this one isn't..

http://pacojonnes.files.wordpress.co...chool-sign.jpg

Haha, bonus if you can name THAT plane

Dassalt Mirage III

All good guesses but wrong... remember, funny name

For another hint, the production of this plane involved spies and stolen plans.

The plane in the tree is a Huff-Daland Duster. Leaving the N-number visible is an invitation to cheat, so I did :D

No idea but did you hear the F-35 plans were stolen?

Here's another one that is NOT a photoshop:

Some of the info was heisted via computer espionage, or something like that... but not all of it. It had something to do with lax security because of multiple countries having access to the information.

But in the case of the plane above, ALL the plans were stolen, in one of the biggest spy operations of the 20th century. That should be enough of a dead giveaway. If anyone gets mad when they figure it out, at least it's not an obscure prototype, and it is a different plane from the plans.

I think the f-35 plans may as well have been stolen, I believe it's an ill-conceived plane. The US DoD is always banking on multirole planes, the f-18 is a good one but the JSF as a plane that can do everything ends up with flaws in every department. In particular, the US has plenty of big carriers and it's not so vital to have a VTOL plane that can also fight, by adding the VTOL they had to weaken its fuselage to make the weight specs. So it's vulnerable to hits and flak, as currently designed, and it has no answer to the orbital-vectored thrust of the 4.5-generation Russian planes and upcoming PAK-FA.

They expect air combat to be all about beyond-visual range and avionics in the future, they thought the same thing in the 60's and it didn't work. Except when it's not a big war.

[crouches waiting for the swarm of f-35 defenders to attack]

No idea from me. I am very intrigued however, so could you pm me the answer, and I publicly swear I won't reveal the answer

Were the plans stolen from Dassalt?

Why would the F-35 have defenders? Its garbage, they only want it because its far cheaper than the F-22.

I am biased because I love the F-22. A shame that our inept leadership cancelled the thing.

Not sure if this one has been posted yet, I dont feel like going through all the pages. I am pretty sure I know who will guess this one. My bad on the poor quality. :(

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...0182/guess.jpg
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...182/guess2.jpg

Gotta be a B-29 superfortress ;)

Edit: Oh and what looks like a model B-29 with russian markings

Gotta agree about the F-35. What good is a VSTOL combat plane if you can't get fuel, ammo, MTX and other support to it in the field? Are they planning on flying all that stuff to it by helicopter or V-22?

Has the F-22 been cancelled or just reduced in number? Seems like there's a squadron in Langley that's already flying the thing. It is a bad assed plane, but I personally don't feel like paying for it. What's it going to fight that can't be dealt with by a few updated F-15s ?

It's the Russian B-29, called the "Bull".

Better known not as the 'Russian B-29', but the actual Soviet designation 'Tu-4 Bull'. :D

Ahh right, learn something everyday :grin:

Edit: so it's my turn now right?

Ok, here is my next one.

This one is with it's wings removed
http://www303.blibs.com/editor/worki...5272?738492026

And here it is WITH wings. (Edited it to make it easier to see and to avoid Cheaters ;))
http://www303.blibs.com/editor/worki...5272?493372976

Same picture.

One of teh saabs? viggen?

That sounds like concord :grin:

Dassault dagger

ok final hint before I reveal the answer: yes, it was, in fact, stolen from Dassault.

I guess the f-35 lovers didn't materialize but it's a good thing I didn't say anything bad about the f-22. Though I think it put all its eggs in the BVR basket too, at least as far as combat vs OVT planes is concerned. [ducks]

I considered posting the Viggen, actually, I like the fighters that can land on roads. More sensible than putting vtol on a plane and then still calling it a fighter.

Northrop tiger II?

time's up, the plane I posted is the IAI Kfir. Mirage3 + stolen plans = Kfir. The Mirage 3's plans were stolen by the Mossad after France embargoed Israel. Israel added their own, better engine and their own avionics and a few other things.

so now you know

Thunderbird 2?

Are you sure about that? I mean Mossad stealing France's blueprints of the Mirage 3. Because I remember reading somewhere, that since France was supplying Israel with planes, tanks, and weapons (before the US took over as the main contributor,) they gave the Israeli's the Mirage 3 because it was becoming outdated for the French Air Force. And also, that's how they got other Mirage's like the IV and another early Mirage (by buying them, and then suiting them up for their own uses, not stealing the prints).

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/b...warrior/as.jpg
and another mass of strings and wings
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/b...arrior/sus.jpg

Shackelton?

yes A.V.Roe Shackleton
now only my seaplane to go.

Sorry about that, strange because when i posted it, it was 2 seperate photos.

Ahhh well, here is the image that was supposed to be there, Give it a go ;)

http://sonicbomb.com/albums/album51/...ini_VVA_14.jpg

Haha, you had me fooled for a moment there. BUT, you can't fool a Soviet Ace. :P

Anyway, the answer is a Bartini VVA-14 Long-Rage Seaplane. It was supposed to be able to take off from the water, VTOL style, but failed because of the engines or something? My Encyclopedia of Soviet Aircraft is always good. ;)

France did end up selling Mirage's to Israel, but at the time, Charles De Gaulle was refusing to sell them so they had to steal Mirage 3. It was being produced outside France, Switzerland if I remember right, and a Mossad agent managed to get ahold of several hundred copies of the design.

But that's not a funny name

Ahhh crap, i was hoping one of you russians didn't show up.

And yes that is correct and so is the information on it. God your good

Reminder to everyone: Dont bother posting russian planes, theres hardly any point, Right Soviet ;)

Well I do have like 10+ books all about Soviet planes from 1920s-1991. I don't know them all off hand, but I'm sure if you post a soviet plane, I'll be sure to find it somewhere in one of my books. ;) I actually wish I had one of those VVA-14 sea planes. It would be SWEEEET. :D

No bloody wonder! Your knowledge combined with 10+ books is enough for world domination.

And it really would be pretty amazing to own one of those, they look so unusual that most will think its a spacecraft :grin:

LOL My knowledge, is those 10+ books. lol But its sinks in, so more knowledge can be given some room. :lol:

"Kfir" isn't a funny name?

I still don't even know how to pronounce it. There is a food called "kefir," but I don't know if it's pronounced like that, and even if it was, it would still sound funny.

Here's an interesting plane.

http://ram-home.com/ram-old/mig-8-1-sh2p243a.jpg

MiG 8, also known as the "Duck".

Cheater, looking at the URL. :P lol

Nope, never saw the URL, but I did cheat a little. At first I thought it might be a very early Rutan design, from before he got into composites. Then I remembered who posted the picture and knew it had to be Russian :-P
So I did a google for "Soviet Canard" and there it was LoL

Doesn't this one look fun?

It does indeed, a very sexy little plane i think.

flying pancake^^

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...0001745977.jpg
This one is at my work^^ The hint is it's a "Corben"

That pic is from WAAAY back in the thread and has since been reposted and answered on page 19.

Also Arn't Corben's kit planes. So every single plane is going to look slightly different? This one from the 30's.

This one for getting the Sea Hornet and cluing the Walrus.

http://i49.tinypic.com/2hyxpoh.jpg

That plane is from from Slipstream, flown to the sound of Then Jerichos Big Area
aka Optica OA7

Yup its the Optica, a weird plane designed for slowness lol. Your turn.

Supermarine Attacker? Sorry just incase it's already been answered btw!

ok pretty easy one
http://www.world-war-2-planes.com/im...ado-Ar-232.jpg

what, a luftwaffe plane I've never seen before?! I call hax!!!!

edit: oh, it's an arado 232, you really should change the name of the pics before you host them :)

Okay dont think this one will be too taxing on the the old grey matter
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/b...ewarrior/j.jpg



This one might be...
[IMG]http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/b...warrior/aa.jpg[/IMG]

That one is very easy, Jet Provost. Not sure about the other.

Danny, is that a Me262 prototype with a prop.

I think Sandylowlead's is a Corben Babyace, an early "homebuilt" from the 1920's. You can still get plans and kits for 'em today, though it's very rare to see one with a radial engine nowadays. The one in the photo must be pretty old, and it still drips oil! Where do you work Sandy? Place looks pretty cool in the photo :cool:

Nobody wants to guess at mine? Hint: It's a homebuilt from the '70's.

nope...

Danny NL's is the Heinkel fighter, He-99, which was in competition with the Bf-109 for the role as principle Luftwaffe fighter, during the 1930's.

Are you sure Panzer? The He-112 was a competitor with the Bf-109, and it was a tail-wheel plane. This one seems kinda odd with a nose gear up front sharing space with a big water-cooled engine, kinda wonder how it all fit. Maybe the nose wheel tucked up into the gap left by the inverted V? I can't find anything on the He-99 except that a few flew in Spain with the Condor Legion, no pictures. Now I'm curious to learn more about it....

Is it a lightning prototype? P1.A or something? Maybe a Short SB.5?

sorry but no.
Its the first entry in the 1959 edition of the obserbers book of aircraft

Well that certainly narrows it down LoL. To me it looks kinda like a Republic F-84 Thunderstreak, except the tail is wrong. What is it Vulcan?

Aerfer Ariete
Italian Interceptor Figheter
Fitted with Rolls Royce engines
first flew march 27th 1958

I looks like the front wheel twists sideways, rather like on a P-36 and P-40, to fold up flat. The chances are that it could be one of the "Austerity / Desperation" built utility fighters towards the end of the war, when materials were in short supply.

Russia had the LaGG-1 and LaGG-3, Britain had the Miles M-20 amd Finland had the "Reckless" (A wooden copy of the Buffalo powered by an I-16 engine).

I find the "also flew" fighters and bombers more interesting than the more familiar fare.

The accounts of the many dogfights between HS-123 bi-plane fighters and Soviet I-15 bi-planes is one forgotten part of the 1941 invasion of Russia.

The Chinese ace, "Fatty" Chung, scored all his kills with the Vultee P-66 Vanguard, despite also flying the fast but clumsy P-43 Lancer, which the P-47 Thunderbolt is a bigger version of.

Very cool :cool:
Here it is from a different angle, it looks much more "experimental" from the side.