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Soviet Ace 08-02-2009 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dennis580 (Post 86453)
The fact is they are WWII flight games one may be more hardcore, but as WWII flight games they are still directing competing against other. They are both WWII flight games, and that is the bottom line at the end of the day.

I admit I am not at all a hardcore flight sim fan, and that is why I am leaning towards Heros Over Eruope, but if Birds of Prey got far better reviews I would mostly like get it instead.

That's like saying Wolfenstein and Call of Duty are competing with each other because they're both WW2 games, which neither is competing with one another.

David603 08-02-2009 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Soviet Ace (Post 86458)
That's like saying Wolfenstein and Call of Duty are competing with each other because they're both WW2 games, which neither is competing with one another.

Well, if Wolfenstein and Modern Warfare 2 both came out on the same day I think the impact on Wolfenstein's sales would make you realise they are competing against each other after all.

Heroes Over Europe and Birds of Prey aren't really competing against each other for the arcade and sim gamers, but there is a large proportion of the market who have not yet decided to buy either game, and the game that comes out first is more likely to secure impulse purchases.

versapak 08-02-2009 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by David603 (Post 86463)
Well, if Wolfenstein and Modern Warfare 2 both came out on the same day I think the impact on Wolfenstein's sales would make you realise they are competing against each other after all.

Heroes Over Europe and Birds of Prey aren't really competing against each other for the arcade and sim gamers, but there is a large proportion of the market who have not yet decided to buy either game, and the game that comes out first is more likely to secure impulse purchases.

The number of casuals that buy games on day one isn't exactly that high.


The people that buy games on day one are generally people that have been waiting for that game, and are informed about it.



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David603 08-02-2009 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by versapak (Post 86466)
The number of casuals that buy games on day one isn't exactly that high.


The people that buy games on day one are generally people that have been waiting for that game, and are informed about it.

Or they walk into the store, see the big signs and the trailer running on the screen behind the counter and decide the game is worth a look, even though they haven't heard about it before. It does actually happen quite a lot.

versapak 08-02-2009 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by David603 (Post 86468)
Or they walk into the store, see the big signs and the trailer running on the screen behind the counter and decide the game is worth a look, even though they haven't heard about it before. It does actually happen quite a lot.

We are talking ONE week.


Seriously... The number of sales that they are likely to lose to casual gamers in that time is not that huge.

How much money do you seriously think Ubisoft is going to throw into pushing HOE? Customers aren't going to walk into the store and be hit by a media blitz for it.


It is a niche audience, and its advertising budget will reflect that.



BoP already has an excellent demo out there, and they have positive word of mouth from that going into release.

HOE has none of that. Far fewer people have even heard of HOE.


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haitch40 08-02-2009 04:44 PM

ok lets do this like a scientist
1. do a servey
2. get a test subject :D
3. ask the test subject about the 2 games
4. uv got an answer and because u got a test subject without a licence 20 years in jail :D

haitch40 08-02-2009 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by haitch40 (Post 86473)
ok lets do this like a scientist
1. do a servey
2. get a test subject :D
3. ask the test subject about the 2 games
4. uv got an answer and because u got a test subject without a licence 20 years in jail :D

oh and i got a ps3 so i could play granturismo5 but i wont now it takes to long :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
damn this was suposed to be in the message above :(

MAYAman 08-02-2009 05:06 PM

dennis your logic is faulty and the fact that you would go by reviews instead of renting the game and find out for yourself doesn't bode well for your gaming hobby. Don't trust the opinion of a jaded game reviewer, rent the game, play it and make up your mind yourself. Your hobby will be more satisfying and you could potentially be passing up on hidden gems if you trust others for everything.


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