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LEXX 09-15-2008 03:21 AM

I prefer Avro Lincoln and HP Victor.

I get flamed on the Lancaster forums ("you is arcade") and also on the Vulcan webboards ("a traitor you are sir"). so I hide out here.

IvanK 09-15-2008 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bloblast (Post 49174)
Yes, but this was later on. Would be intresting when this done, Oleg could include this improvement some time in the BOB campaign.

Otherwise flutter would remain during whole BOB campaign.

Ill ask Oleg.

Actually Boblast it depends exactly what you mean by later on.

All Spitfires,Hurricanes and were converted to Constant Speed units by 16August 1940.

Spitfires were the first to be converted commencing on 24June 1940. There conversion being completed earlier than 16 Aug 1940.

Ref : Spitfire the History By Morgan and Shacklady. Pages 53 and 54 under the heading of "The Switch to Constant Speed Propellers"

Bloblast 09-15-2008 06:59 PM

I do not exactly know when conversion started and was completed for Spitfires and Hurricanes. A the beginning of BOB say around June 40 may be a small percentage was converted.

IvanK 09-16-2008 06:07 AM

As in my previous post:

Spitfires were the first to be converted commencing on 24June 1940.
All Spitfires,Hurricanes and were converted to Constant Speed units by 16August 1940.

Thunderbolt56 09-16-2008 12:34 PM

Can't say I have a preference right now, but honestly looking more forward to flying the Emils than the Spits.

They're both so close in performance that it should be a white-knuckle affair every time.

mondo 09-16-2008 01:07 PM

I'm personally more interested in flying the Beaufighter and some of the other aircraft.

mazex 09-17-2008 08:19 PM

My decision is purely emotional...

Three reasons for the Spit during BoB:

Is there a more beautiful plane EVER than the Spitfire?

I like playing the under dog - and during BoB that further strengthens my choice...

Emil is too crude, Fredrich is too weak. Gustav - now we talk!

/Mazex

Lodestone 09-22-2008 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mazex (Post 49753)
Three reasons for the Spit during BoB:

Is there a more beautiful plane EVER than the Spitfire?

I like playing the under dog - and during BoB that further strengthens my choice...

Emil is too crude, Fredrich is too weak. Gustav - now we talk!

1) no, never has been and likely never will be (opinion of course)

2) I agree here too, being the underdog is more fun

3) Friedrich too weak? Maybe the MG 151/15 is weak, but not Friedrich! 109-F is in my opinion the best of all 109's when compared to its adversaries. Nothing in 1941 can touch the F-4 (with MG 151/20 especially)

Also, are we going to fight over England? If so, I want a Spit so I can fight for longer than 10 minutes. If we are going to fight over France then I will happilly fly Emil :)

Final answer.......SPITTY!

mazex 09-22-2008 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lodestone (Post 50323)
3) Friedrich too weak? Maybe the MG 151/15 is weak, but not Friedrich! 109-F is in my opinion the best of all 109's when compared to its adversaries. Nothing in 1941 can touch the F-4 (with MG 151/20 especially)

You´re right - I do specifically mean the F2 with the 15mm MG 151. I'm like Galland - who refused to fly the F series until the F4 was introduced... Anyway - I do like the added firepower that was introduced in the G6 when they dropped the MG17 for the MG 131. In the F2 you have two 7.92mm and one 15mm. That's not enough for a 1940 fighter in my opinion...

EDIT: Speaking about looks (that the Spit has in excess) - subjective soft/undefinable stuff also makes me think of the Friedrich as "weak". It looks so clean an nimble compared to the other me:s. The E is blocky and looks mean. The G and K have their bumps and stuff that also gives them a brute look in some way... An Me is never beautiful to me - but it can look like a menacing war machine, accept the F :)

Avimimus 09-22-2008 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Biggs (Post 49200)
"also are you planning on including the Spitfire mkII? squadrons started conversion to them in September '40."

Oleg's answer: No.

^that last answer is unfortunate. i dont really see why it wont be included, its not like there needs to be a completely reworked model, just a slightly changed FM. oh well. :(

Addon most likely...


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