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Nevar 11-06-2012 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Xargon (Post 478069)
Well, you get that snake ring in return which may be even more useful - but only when upgraded. It will probably be impossible (or at least very hard, as one should be careful with the word "impossible" in this game) to do the upgrade fight before the spider boss, though. So keeping the staff until then sounds like a wise choice if you intend to use snakes on the boss...

I actually have 3 Snake Rings XD
Still, another boost would have been nice. They'd be doing... what? Triple their normal damage?

I wish there was a way to consistently summon snakes, though. Lunge doesn't count bonus damage form equips, iirc.

Harakiri 11-06-2012 11:18 AM

I actually think the fight is very very unfair for mages. All other fights - even the ones after are trivial in comparision

I played on normal i had about 3200 leadership so max 2 trolls, i killed every enemy before the spider, was level 19 i think on normal

I didnt find any resurrect scrolls, or mana spring or whatever. I tried multiple combinations of snakes, trolls, sea pirates etc - the problem was that every round - 3-4 spiders came and the stack grew. I would be able to clear the spiders but than i couldnt harm the giant one - or even with summoning level 3 animals - the spider just hits to hard - even using range attacks.

After 4 tries which each took about 20-25min i never got her below 5000 - and even if you killed the spider you need to kill the remaining spiders too.

So anyway, before i threw the game away for being such a ******* unfair game to a mage (the fight would be a cakewalk with double leadership) i cheated with shift+^ and set doublearmy to every of my troops except one - now, with basically 6400 leadership - the fight was done in 3 rounds.

cihank1 11-06-2012 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Harakiri (Post 478095)
I actually think the fight is very very unfair for mages. All other fights - even the ones after are trivial in comparision

I played on normal i had about 3200 leadership so max 2 trolls, i killed every enemy before the spider, was level 19 i think on normal

I didnt find any resurrect scrolls, or mana spring or whatever. I tried multiple combinations of snakes, trolls, sea pirates etc - the problem was that every round - 3-4 spiders came and the stack grew. I would be able to clear the spiders but than i couldnt harm the giant one - or even with summoning level 3 animals - the spider just hits to hard - even using range attacks.

After 4 tries which each took about 20-25min i never got her below 5000 - and even if you killed the spider you need to kill the remaining spiders too.

So anyway, before i threw the game away for being such a ******* unfair game to a mage (the fight would be a cakewalk with double leadership) i cheated with shift+^ and set doublearmy to every of my troops except one - now, with basically 6400 leadership - the fight was done in 3 rounds.

I hear you, buddy. But all you need to do is to buy some trolls, attack the giant spider with them and use your other troopes to destroy the little ones. Then it's actually quite easy.

This is a really stupid boss fight.

Kel 11-06-2012 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Harakiri (Post 478095)
I actually think the fight is very very unfair for mages.

As a mage the fight is also not really difficult. You just need a couple of hard hitting melee units. I used a stack of polar bears and Berserkers. Always attack the big spider with the melee units, the other 3 unit stacks attack the little spiders. Don't use range attacks against the big spider to avoid the web.

Nevar 11-06-2012 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Harakiri (Post 478095)
I actually think the fight is very very unfair for mages. All other fights - even the ones after are trivial in comparision

I agree that it CAN be hard. However, I had an Ancient Phoenix and Books of Evil at the time, so I was able to no loss it. There's honestly a lot of luck involved.

Harakiri 11-06-2012 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Kel (Post 478125)
As a mage the fight is also not really difficult. You just need a couple of hard hitting melee units. I used a stack of polar bears and Berserkers. Always attack the big spider with the melee units, the other 3 unit stacks attack the little spiders. Don't use range attacks against the big spider to avoid the web.

I had those, however due the counterattack from the spider the troops will be down to 0 after 4-5 hits - and i had no resurrection.

cihank1 11-06-2012 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Kel (Post 478125)
As a mage the fight is also not really difficult. You just need a couple of hard hitting melee units. I used a stack of polar bears and Berserkers. Always attack the big spider with the melee units, the other 3 unit stacks attack the little spiders. Don't use range attacks against the big spider to avoid the web.

I really don't get it. Are we even playing the same game? When I attack the giant spider with anything but trolls, the spider makes short work of them; even my toughest units (jarls and jotuns) can't survive against that monstrosity for long.

Saridu 11-06-2012 11:35 PM

Toughest, hmm what's your poison resistance oh right 0 :) Suspected the giant spider hits with physical and or poison. Try attack him with Royal snakes.

As for the babies, crowd control + frenzy , your Jarls have a very useful swing attack, Axemen too though I wouldn't suggest them. Still raving about Sea Dogs, used a stack for killing the babies, tri attack, dodge and run, worked really well.

ckdamascus 11-07-2012 02:13 AM

After spending many HOURS trying to do no-loss with trolls, I can assure you, Stoneskin works on the Giant Spider's attack. It is physical.

Bhruic 11-07-2012 02:20 AM

Head: 500-1000 physical
Left/Right feet: 700-1300 physical
Spit: 400-900 magical


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