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Richie 01-20-2012 05:32 AM

I like that :)

Ataros 01-20-2012 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ElAurens (Post 381719)
Just once I'd like to see a film about WW2 aviation that was as good as Das Boot, and I don't really care which side it would be about.

This one is the best from a VVS perspective.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud0ofWIg_cs
(aircrafts are not historical except for Po-2/U-2)

bw_wolverine 01-20-2012 02:15 PM

I watched an interview with George Lucas about the film and he said that he was trying to get this story out to the masses to showcase the heroism of the tuskegee airmen, 'real american heroes' as it were.

However, I think the amount of 'bending' of reality in this film is going to hurt that intention. It just makes the story seem less believable and I bet a lot of people are going to come away from the movie saying "yeah yeah, but that's not really what happened". And no, it isn't what happened (or so it sounds like), but the opportunity to get this story to the public in any real and meaningful way will be lost.

This film SHOULD have been made as real as they could have made it. It should have been done in the style of Band of Brothers. Hell, it would have been better served even if they'd done it in the style of Memphis Belle. I'll probably see it, but I'll wait til it's rentable.

Korn 01-20-2012 03:43 PM

Nevermind what George Lucas said. What he was trying to do is get a big pile of money. He's probably going to achieve that yet again... yeah he's taking advantage of this story of people facing adversity and coming out on top, you think he cares? He's not the first and won't be the last; i can only wish his movies wouldn't suck so much. But they do, what is the last decent film he made? You really have to go a way back.

DoolittleRaider 01-20-2012 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ElAurens (Post 381719)
Anyone who has the slightest knowledge of WW2 aviation knew this movie was going to be bad, on many levels.

Correct. I live in Vegas and wish they would have taken wagers on Redtails being Crap.


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And just for the sake of historical accuracy...

The 99th. lost 25 B17s that they were escorting, they did not have a perfect record in this regard, unlike the mythology that has built up around them.
Correct. The myth that "they never lost an escorted Bomber" lasted for six decades...Still, I was surprised that the trailer for Redtails didn't repeat that myth.


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Just once I'd like to see a film about WW2 aviation that was as good as Das Boot, and I don't really care which side it would be about.
See the Czech movie "Dark Blue World" about Czechs in RAF in BoB.

DoolittleRaider 01-20-2012 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Korn (Post 382267)
Nevermind what George Lucas said. What he was trying to do is get a big pile of money. He's probably going to achieve that yet again...

I think the movie is going to be a flop once the Word gets out that it is no good, from any perspective.

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yeah he's taking advantage of this story of people facing adversity and coming out on top, you think he cares? He's not the first and won't be the last; i can only wish his movies wouldn't suck so much. But they do, what is the last decent film he made? You really have to go a way back.
Lucas= Star Wars = XWing and Tie Fighters = laughable Fantasy Physics for aerial action in Red Tails. Totally predictable.

JG52Uther 01-20-2012 09:25 PM

Unfortunately if it does flop, other people will lose interest in making films in the same genre.

swiss 01-20-2012 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DoolittleRaider (Post 382429)
I think the movie is going to be a flop once the Word gets out that it is no good, from any perspective.


Do you really think the average audience does base it's judgment on the FM of planes?
No, they don't.
This is a Popcorn Movie - personally I don't care either, the planes can handle like Space Shuttles for all I care, so what?
It's just fun.
Some of you guys are truly sorry nerds. Get a life.

robtek 01-21-2012 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by swiss (Post 382492)
Do you really think the average audience does base it's judgment on the FM of planes?
No, they don't.
This is a Popcorn Movie - personally I don't care either, the planes can handle like Space Shuttles for all I care, so what?
It's just fun.
Some of you guys are truly sorry nerds. Get a life.

One could cut realistic scenes as spectacular as those silly faked ones with the same amount of work, also the paintjobs could be realistic without hurting the movie.
Nothing against popcorn movies, but there really is no reason for those senseless falsifications, except a really dumb/careless audience is expected.

jg27_mc 01-21-2012 12:14 AM

The film (Dark Blue World) is ok... But come on, Bouchons instead of 109's? And the Revi sight placed on the left of the dashboard... give me a break! :confused:

The movie is porked at best! lol
Regards.


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