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klem 12-09-2012 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by nearmiss (Post 486207)
Starving animals always smell food when there is none...

... sniff sniff... real Merlins? No... its.... its more like a Wasp. No... wait... is that a Shvetzov?

LoBiSoMeM 12-09-2012 04:43 PM

:(
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Originally Posted by Trumper (Post 486218)
About time they employed an English speaking person to stop all this crap translation /rumours/misunderstanding

+1000.

1C is a joke.

zapatista 12-09-2012 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by podvoxx (Post 485345)
Gradually we make DEDA tell us new information :)

http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/showthrea...=1#post1936502

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Originally Posted by DEDA
Colleagues, I do not know what else to suggest thinner? The man who gets the head of the project, knows that we want all these long years. He made it clear this is not just empty words: no long-term construction, the invention of new engines for the simulator or patching up the old, no stupid cows and tens of micro cards. No fancy today IMO, though not excluded content sales ... virtual pilot needs simulator and honest war in the air and not another attempt to pile all the genres in the world.
podvox,

thanks for passing on the information,........but........ i see many problems with what is said (or implied) there by DEDA
- The man who gets the head of the project, knows that we want all these long years. He made it clear this is not just empty words:: so far so good, sounds like they found an experienced manager to run the project
- no long-term construction, the invention of new engines for the simulator or patching up the old, : the only way to get BoM out the door soon is to use the CoD engine, which is fine, t runs well now, but what about the "patching up the old" ? we obviously still need significant further fixes for the new CoD engine, why speak of no fixes or patches ?
- no stupid cows and tens of micro cards (meaning small maps probably ?). No fancy today MMO (good news, diverting to an MMO project after barely fixing CoD would be a disaster imho, we now need BoM as the next installment and have it run well at release time before any other projects are considered, would be very bad management indeed to now try and change horses mid stream
- virtual pilot needs simulator and honest war in the air and not another attempt to pile all the genres in the world. this is the biggest problem i see with DEDA's perspective, sounds like they want to dumb down the grand vision oleg had (which was created after years of feedback from the community), to now chuck out all the grand elements we wanted (rearm and refuel, dynamic campaign, detailed campaign engine that can run 24/7, dynamic weather, detailed AI routines for ground traffic of civilian roads and rail (as well as military movements), some limited control of ground vehicles and ships (no not a full extra sim, but they built the features so let us ave them please), detailed ground grafix with "moving grass" etc...

most of those advanced elements are already built into the sim, and took years to create. to chuck all of that out because some new pen pusher is taking over the project would be a tremendous waste imho, you'd end up with a bland empty world like RoF, which doesnt touch on the depth of what sims like falcon4 and mig-alley had 15 yrs ago. and yes please, when i come in for my emergency landing with a damaged aircraft in some french farmers field, i'd like to see the the cows in the paddock scatter and run for their lives, is that really to much to ask in 2013 ? i fear we might be going back to a soviet style gameplay with no sophistication or imagination. NO LADA OR TRABANT STYLE FLIGHTSIM PLEASE, WE WANT OLEGS GRAND VISION REALIZED !!. just fix the freakin thing and activate all the grand complex elements that have been worked on for years (most of which are near completion already), or release those parts to the community to work on !

zapatista 12-09-2012 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ATAG_Colander (Post 486211)
We have, however, to read between the lines.

For example....

This is pure speculation from my part but it sounds like the "sequel" will be made using the ROF engine to me!

you better put your glasses on

RoF is directX8 and its poor little performance is so overstretched they cant squeze anything more out of it, they cant even model flight physics in real time and rely on canned and scripted modeling

to many people are deluded by a few shiny things they see and believe all that glitters is gold, RoF is totally useless for any of us that aim to obtain realistic flight physics in a next gen grafix environment

and no, for the feeble minded for who this reality check will trigger a knee jerk reaction from, dont derail this thread with your RoF fanboy chants your in the wrong department, go to your own den in the defunk toy department in the basement and keep that nonsense out of here

furbs 12-09-2012 05:46 PM

Of course they will fix it Zap, the fixes are easy and simple, according to what you have told me.

MiGCap 12-09-2012 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by zapatista (Post 486244)
no lada or trabant style flightsim please, we want olegs grand vision realized !!


+1! :!:

ATAG_Colander 12-09-2012 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by zapatista (Post 486246)
you better put your glasses on

RoF is directX8 and its poor little performance is so overstretched they cant squeze anything more out of it, they cant even model flight physics in real time and rely on canned and scripted modeling

to many people are deluded by a few shiny things they see and believe all that glitters is gold, RoF is totally useless for any of us that aim to obtain realistic flight physics in a next gen grafix environment

and no, for the feeble minded for who this reality check will trigger a knee jerk reaction from, dont derail this thread with your RoF fanboy chants your in the wrong department, go to your own den in the defunk toy department in the basement and keep that nonsense out of here


1.- I said in my post "don't shoot the messenger" and that's exactly what you are doing.
2.- I don't own ROF so the "ROF fanboy" attack does not work with me.
3.- Glasses are needed by those who can't read.

ElAurens 12-09-2012 10:54 PM

NO way the R0F engine will work for a WW2 sim.

It cannot handle even modest numbers of ground objects. How are you going to simulate proper ground attack, which is the heart of the air war in the East?

R0F is very enjoyable, but it is also very, very limited in it's capabilities. One look at it's sterile, picture post card world environment should be a big clue.

Freycinet 12-09-2012 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ATAG_Colander (Post 486280)
1.- I said in my post "don't shoot the messenger" and that's exactly what you are doing.
2.- I don't own ROF so the "ROF fanboy" attack does not work with me.
3.- Glasses are needed by those who can't read.

Colander, please don't waste your time on these people who have only ever contributed hate and negativity. You cannot change them, nothing can, and they are not worth it at all.

podvoxx 12-10-2012 10:24 AM

New rumors
http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/showthrea...=1#post1940229

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http://forum.aviaskins.com/showpost....postcount=1258
Ребята, привет.
Общался с B6. Кстати, он здесь тоже зарегистрирован.
Просто ждём анонса от 1С.
С уважением, Sparr
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http://forum.aviaskins.com/showpost....postcount=1261
Ребята, не бойтесь. Я не фанат БОБ и серии вообще, скорее даже противник, но я кое-что выяснил в процессе частной переписки с Александром Тимашковым B6. Приведу цитаты вопросов и ответов:

В: "скажите а это правда что БОБ заброшен и Битвы за Москву не будет?"

О: "Да, проект БОБ был полностью закрыт этой осенью после выпуска финального патча. 1С сейчас занимается разработкой сиквела, скоро будет официальный анонс."
В: "Скажите, а слухи про увольнение сотрудников MG это вранье?"
О: "У нас произошла реорганизация отдела разработки симуляторов, об этом будет рассказано в анонсе"


Вся переписка происходила по несколько иному поводу, но заодно так сказать и прояснил для себя, а то на Сухом устроили ад какой-то. Все вопросы и ответы имеют дату 06.12.12.
Если кому от этого станет чуть легче или как-то прояснит ситуацию, то я рад, что помог успокоиться нервным вирпилам.
Удачи мужики. Скоро праздники!!!

P.S.: Дмитрий меня даже опередил. Видимо его тоже осенило, что ответ надо узнавать у официальных людей в частном порядке.
Счастливого Нового Года!
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Black Six
http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/showthrea...=1#post1940242
Все таки привычка давать даже в личной переписке тока официальные ответы без какого-либо эксклюзива выручает. Но напротив товарища Грохота галочку поставил)


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