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KG26_Alpha 12-16-2011 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by robtek (Post 370752)
The players became so used to their crutches, they want to keep them instead of running free.

Unfortunately CoD has no legs to let us run free at present.

Chivas 12-16-2011 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha (Post 370798)
Unfortunately CoD has no legs to let us run free at present.

I haven't flown much but have enjoyed some offline practice, mission building, and online missions. On line is quite good as you don't have to rely on the AI, or Commands.

Hopefully that will change, as the developers are still working.

KG26_Alpha 12-16-2011 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Chivas (Post 370800)
I haven't flown much but have enjoyed some offline practice, mission building, and online missions. On line is quite good as you don't have to rely on the AI, or Commands.

Hopefully that will change, as the developers are still working.

Hehe

It was meant in the sense to the post I was replying to.

;)

Frequent_Flyer 12-17-2011 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JG52Krupi (Post 369288)
TBF RoF is not fairing much better :( all it means is that the large companies producing the same old rubbish are drawing in the sheep as usual :evil:

And it was more like 60 ppl on ATAG...

I disagree with your assement. I consider myself the norm, I have two children in college, a career and a seemingly unending number of family obligations to attend to. My free time is very limited. I want the most streamlined approach possible in order to maximize my enjoyment. The vast majority of folks, for instance, play Call of Duty- MW3 ( 6 million copies sold on first day ) for the same reason ,log on and away you go play as long as you like no crash to desk top etc. The large well organized, well managed organizations will always succeed. For roughly the same price as CLOD anyone can pick up a " counsel game " of choice and it will work right out of the box. There is nothing evil about product development, implentation ,marketing and customer support. No computer settings, minimuim system requirements to screw with, etc.

My problem is an obsession with World War aircraft, and I am a private pilot.

I certainly hope CLOD is moved off " life support '. It would be best for 1c to sell what they have developed to a corporation with the resources to program all the features advertised post haste before the very limited interest, wanes completly.

There is nothing noble about an under funded enterprize with limited resources producing, or rather attempting to produce software for a nitche PC market. After all is said, weather in defense and support of, or in criticism both opinions equally justified, it comes down to satisfying the consumer. While i do not consider $ 50 expensive, my time is worth much more. Hopefully, they resolve the issues shortly.

Chivas 12-17-2011 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Frequent_Flyer (Post 370903)
I disagree with your assement. I consider myself the norm, I have two children in college, a career and a seemingly unending number of family obligations to attend to. My free time is very limited. I want the most streamlined approach possible in order to maximize my enjoyment. The vast majority of folks, for instance, play Call of Duty- MW3 ( 6 million copies sold on first day ) for the same reason ,log on and away you go play as long as you like no crash to desk top etc. The large well organized, well managed organizations will always succeed. For roughly the same price as CLOD anyone can pick up a " counsel game " of choice and it will work right out of the box. There is nothing evil about product development, implentation ,marketing and customer support. No computer settings, minimuim system requirements to screw with, etc.

My problem is an obsession with World War aircraft, and I am a private pilot.

I certainly hope CLOD is moved off " life support '. It would be best for 1c to sell what they have developed to a corporation with the resources to program all the features advertised post haste before the very limited interest, wanes completly.

There is nothing noble about an under funded enterprize with limited resources producing, or rather attempting to produce software for a nitche PC market. After all is said, weather in defense and support of, or in criticism both opinions equally justified, it comes down to satisfying the consumer. While i do not consider $ 50 expensive, my time is worth much more. Hopefully, they resolve the issues shortly.

Only one problem with this, big companies aren't interested in small genre low profit sims. Thats why the only people developing them are companies formed from small groups of like minded WW2 combat sim enthusiasts. Like you say these small groups are overwhelmed by the complexity we all want in these sims, but without them the genre is finished.

Frequent_Flyer 12-17-2011 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Chivas (Post 370919)
Only one problem with this, big companies aren't interested in small genre low profit sims. Thats why the only people developing them are companies formed from small groups of like minded WW2 combat sim enthusiasts. Like you say these small groups are overwhelmed by the complexity we all want in these sims, but without them the genre is finished.

By no means do I claim to be knowledgeable in software programing. However, I have been in business world for 30 years. If I were in the corner office at 1C. It seems to me the" New Engine" in all its glory real or potential would easily lend itself to more lucrative revenue streams. For example, Lucas Arts/entertainment is doing a " Red Tails" movie. Why not develop a flight sim along with software engineered for movie and /or documentry applications. Modern Warfare has a huge following for its on-line land battles with some air warefare, although very arcadeish. However, you get the point.

Electronic Arts buys small and not so small software companies constantly. Look at SIMS an obscure idea for a niche, that turned out to be the all time leading game/sim of all times. It can be done, just not in Russia.

Chivas 12-17-2011 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Frequent_Flyer (Post 370945)
By no means do I claim to be knowledgeable in software programing. However, I have been in business world for 30 years. If I were in the corner office at 1C. It seems to me the" New Engine" in all its glory real or potential would easily lend itself to more lucrative revenue streams. For example, Lucas Arts/entertainment is doing a " Red Tails" movie. Why not develop a flight sim along with software engineered for movie and /or documentry applications. Modern Warfare has a huge following for its on-line land battles with some air warefare, although very arcadeish. However, you get the point.

Electronic Arts buys small and not so small software companies constantly. Look at SIMS an obscure idea for a niche, that turned out to be the all time leading game/sim of all times. It can be done, just not in Russia.

CGI movies was one of the applications Maddox Games was considering when building the new game engine for the new IL-2 series. They've obviously had problems with the graphic engine so that application is still up in the air, although they wouldn't have worry about getting playable frame rates when doing computer generated effects for movies.

RazzyMan 12-17-2011 08:41 PM

Great potential but all so very dissapointing so far.
 
This game has great potential but all so very dissapointing so far.:razz:
Visials are great, framerates on the quad core & GTX560Ti (OCD to 1.1MHz) are great, gameplay not so good. Wierd AI (enough said) is one of the most annoying aspects in the strange campaign. Multiplayer is not bad but does not seem busy enough (not surprising I guess).
I'm a busy chap, done some real flying in the past and dabble in this game occasionally and will continue to do so (also the awesome 1946) but I will not purchase anything further from this developer unless it takes some big strides in the right direction.
This forum is astoundingly good and gives great insights that the developers should take guidance from.

Richie 12-17-2011 09:36 PM

So am I understanding that the next patch will inclued this Battle For Moscow or is that months away?

addman 12-17-2011 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Richie (Post 370972)
So am I understanding that the next patch will inclued this Battle For Moscow or is that months away?

ROFLMAO!! Good one, BoM included in the patch! Phuuuff! Almost lost my breath there.....


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