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Sven 12-20-2010 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by moilami (Post 205624)
Alright, as my last words I say "the coalition" would had got better results in Iraq by educating 1000 Iraquese women in Universities in USA, Sweden, and Finland in feminist studies and after that sending them back to Iraq :lol: :lol: :lol:

And as funny and ridiculous as that may sound, there is no reasonable doubts about it being by far much bigger win for the world than this "war against terrorism" xxxx.

(Note I totally deny being a feminist.)


Edit: Some may not get the strategy so I explain. The 1000 iraquese feminists would start a change where at first they would get free marriages for women. After that men would have to begin to please women in islamic countries, which would lead men begin to reinterpret the Koran in a way women want. The rest would be history.

Edit: Some may argue it is against Geneve rules of "fair play" and comparable to terrorism to send 1000 feminists to Iraq, but oh well, don't blame me, I am just specialized in creative solutions and someone asked for better solutions :lol:

Or those 1000 Iraquese women would be jailed or killed when criticising the Koran in Iraq. I dont think Islam would modernize anywhere in the near future in the Middle East, even in my home country they wont do so, the most that is.

moilami 12-20-2010 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sven (Post 205635)
Or those 1000 Iraquese women would be jailed or killed when criticising the Koran in Iraq. I dont think Islam would modernize anywhere in the near future in the Middle East, even in my home country they wont do so, the most that is.

No they would not. Remember I talked about University quality feminist studies students. They would not cross the line. Or maybe some would but it would make the rest of the "sisters" even more dedicated and careful.

Sven 12-20-2010 05:24 PM

Going so softly into the Islamic culture just isnt going to help in a short while, will take at least a 100 years if you slowly and carefully want the Islam to modernize that way.

I don't really care about the people who are following the Islam in the middle east in the way they do it, let them be, the only thing that annoys me that they wont change in my country, but that has little to do with Ethics of Pilots during WW2 isnt it?

Where were we, oh yeah, shooting shutes, right, if my superior would have forbidden me to do so I wouldn't shoot anyone on a shute, clear. If however my superior allows it, my instinct would rise up and say to me, if he lands walks back to base and kills you the other day, it would be better to end his life, or shoot off both arms so he cant fly any more, but that would be too cruel. If however the pilot you just shot down was clearly over your lines I think the ground troops would enjoy his presence by putting him in jail.

moilami 12-20-2010 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sven (Post 205658)
Going so softly into the Islamic culture just isnt going to help in a short while, will take at least a 100 years if you slowly and carefully want the Islam to modernize that way.

I don't really care about the people who are following the Islam in the middle east in the way they do it, let them be, the only thing that annoys me that they wont change in my country, but that has little to do with Ethics of Pilots during WW2 isnt it?

Where were we, oh yeah, shooting shutes, right, if my superior would have forbidden me to do so I wouldn't shoot anyone on a shute, clear. If however my superior allows it, my instinct would rise up and say to me, if he lands walks back to base and kills you the other day, it would be better to end his life, or shoot off both arms so he cant fly any more, but that would be too cruel. If however the pilot you just shot down was clearly over your lines I think the ground troops would enjoy his presence by putting him in jail.

By the way I have been thinking.

Could it be possible that I could fly with your squadron in Ostfront? I have a squadron though, but I would like to contribute in your efforts. It could happen that one other pilot from my current squadron could come help too.

Triggaaar 12-20-2010 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Sven (Post 205658)
Where were we, oh yeah, shooting shutes, right, if my superior would have forbidden me to do so I wouldn't shoot anyone on a shute, clear. If however my superior allows it, my instinct would rise up and say to me, if he lands walks back to base and kills you the other day, it would be better to end his life, or shoot off both arms so he cant fly any more, but that would be too cruel. If however the pilot you just shot down was clearly over your lines I think the ground troops would enjoy his presence by putting him in jail.

Same here. But then I guess you knew that :)

Theshark888 12-20-2010 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by moilami (Post 205581)
So, you got the oil and we got the xxxx.

Please check your facts as to where most Middle East oil goes to. If we were trying to control the ME oilfields, how come the price of fuel in the USA has doubled? How come we still pay for Iraqi oil?

moilami 12-20-2010 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Theshark888 (Post 205674)
Please check your facts as to where most Middle East oil goes to. If we were trying to control the ME oilfields, how come the price of fuel in the USA has doubled? How come we still pay for Iraqi oil?

You didn't even got oil then? What a fail :lol:

Triggaaar 12-20-2010 07:04 PM

Western governments don't get the oil, but the huge oil contracts go to western companies, and corrupt officials (*cough* bush) get massive payouts. The $millions make it easier for people like Blair and Bush to sleep and forget about the soldiers they've sacrificed for their greed.

moilami 12-20-2010 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Triggaaar (Post 205663)
Same here. But then I guess you knew that :)

I wish SoW would be released soon so Chute Shooters Club could do some Friday Night Specials :lol: SoW hopefully brings a new generation of not so emo pilots. Though I still guess how it goes in TS.

- omg they picked our server
- woot
- chute shooters
- lol i pwn them

<time passes and chute shooting happens>

- omg
- nooooo
- kick and ban them!!!


:lol: :lol: :lol:

I know I will be hated because of this, but it is ok :lol: Virtual Air Warfare needs some more passion and less "yay we all are friends k". It is supposed to be war and not some tea and bisquit party.


Edit: Seriously, this is simulation. I would expect Japanese to chute shoot me, if that happened in real for American pilots. I fly only for Axis though now, but in SoW I hope Polish squadrons will chute shoot me, if they did that in real. Will be more entertaining to watch what happens after I am forced to bailout.

Theshark888 12-20-2010 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Triggaaar (Post 205680)
Western governments don't get the oil, but the huge oil contracts go to western companies, and corrupt officials (*cough* bush) get massive payouts. The $millions make it easier for people like Blair and Bush to sleep and forget about the soldiers they've sacrificed for their greed.

What's the difference between a "corrupt" western corporations or a state run dictatorship "corrupt" corporation?

The USA is not large/rich enough so our president (Bush) attacked Iraq in order to make billions of dollars and settle down on his ranch and write a book? And Blair joined along to gain wealth also? :o Do you realize how foolish your conspiracy theories actually sound? Don't you think there are easier ways for a corporation or president for that matter, to make billions of dollars instead of going to war?


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