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SaQSoN 11-06-2010 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 150GCT_Veltro (Post 195931)
Ju-88 inside the cockpit is incredible, really great!

http://rutube.ru/tracks/3743507.html...bc000730696f75

It looks, like nobody at the fair didn't find out, that the defensive guns could be controlled in 2 ways. I.e. in the Ju-88 rear gunner, you can also rotate the whole gun mount (circular window), plus the gun within it. Hence, this particular gun has 3 DoF. ;)

Richie 11-06-2010 07:53 AM

I get a kick out of that copilot. He looks like he's in deep shock. Something Like Buddy Hackett and Mickey Rooney in "The Mad Mad Mad Mad World" in that twin Beachcraft.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ir-3...eature=related

150GCT_Veltro 11-06-2010 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by SaQSoN (Post 195933)
It looks, like nobody at the fair didn't find out, that the defensive guns could be controlled in 2 ways. I.e. in the Ju-88 rear gunner, you can also rotate the whole gun mount (circular window), plus the gun within it. Hence, this particular gun has 3 DoF. ;)

Thank for the info.

I begin only now to understand the potentiality of this game. The Ju-88 is really cinematographic, and it will be a dream to fly. I can't imagine a night mission over England with this kinde of cockpit, really immersive.

However i'm still afraid about the hunting side of the sim for the Germans. One only Emil for us Spitfire hunters is not so good.

Have you info about other versions like E1, and may be E3 with armoured protection?

Peffi 11-06-2010 08:59 AM

Shadows on the windows. I don't like that shadows appear so much on the cockpit windows.Makes you feel as if the cockpit is full of smoke.The outside world is not in the shadow just because the cockpit is in the shadow. The shadows made by trees etc on the ground are too strong. The reflective lighting from the surroundings are not strong enough. The terrain colors are too vivid. Take a look at the small river. It looks as if someone poured a strong blue color into it. But who knows. Everything we see is not the final product. Maybe most of this is intentional by Oleg. To really be able to judge we have to wait for the final product, March 2011 it seems .....

Rodolphe 11-06-2010 10:11 AM

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An incompleted list of available vehicles : ;)

http://sukhoi.ru/forum/attachment.ph...3&d=1288997283

Protze Kfz. 69
http://www.autogallery.org.ru/k/k/kr...e_Baydeww2.jpg

Albion AM 463
http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/albion1.jpg


Fiat OCI 708
http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/OCI.jpg

The "could be" FN 63C tractor
http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/FN63.jpg


Sd. Kfz 252
http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/252i.jpg


Ford G917
http://www.autogallery.org.ru/k/f/39for3ton.jpg


Austin K2 ATV
http://newimages.fotopic.net/?iid=yw...=90&noresize=1


Sd. Kfz. 11
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ch%C3%BCtz.jpg


Opel Blitz
http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/pi...opel_blitz.jpg


30cwt Morris CDSW
http://www.ianhardy.net/gallery/main..._4032l_std.jpg


Unic P-107
http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/Unic.jpg


Morris CS8
http://www.reocities.com/vk3cz/cs8-12.jpg


SPA TL 37
http://www.centoventesimo.com/mezzi/...a_tl_37_06.jpg


BMW R 71
http://www.pwbrowning.com/r71/index-Images/0.jpg


Scammell Pioneer SV2S
http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/SV2.jpg


A.10 Tilly
http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/Tilly.jpg


Scammell Pioneer TRMU 30
http://www.armyvehicles.dk/images/scammelltrmu30_1.jpg


Austin K2
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi.../800px-K21.JPG

Sd. Kfz 10/1
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...enfahrzeug.jpg

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philip.ed 11-06-2010 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by SaQSoN (Post 195913)
If the fire is in cockpit, IRL you would be concerned how to get out ASAP and not how to extinguish it. Because oxygen, or not, you'll get a severe burns in the matter of seconds. IL-2, IMO is way more forgiving in that part, i.e. it gives you much more time when the plane is burning, then you'd have IRL.

PS. BTW, that's what AI does in game, they may try to extinguish the flames somehow, when a wing or tail burns. But if fire gets too close to the cockpit, they just bail out.

Yes, I agree! Although I'm sure I've read a pilot report where the fire was coming from the oxygen tank, and he turned it off (first) in order to stop the flames coming out of the mask! As the d-type oxygen mask uses an open-flow system.
This is quite complex though, and the fact that what you have said is programmed into the AI is awesome.

NSU 11-06-2010 10:24 AM

thx Rodolphe, nice listing :)

SaQSoN 11-06-2010 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by philip.ed (Post 195958)
I've read a pilot report where the fire was coming from the oxygen tank, and he turned it off (first) in order to stop the flames coming out of the mask! As the d-type oxygen mask uses an open-flow system.
This is quite complex though, and the fact that what you have said is programmed into the AI is awesome.

In the first place, it is rather rare happening. He, probably, got some oxygen lines between tank and mask partially severed, so the fire was sucked by air flow and brought into the mask.
It would require a lots of things programmed to get such situation possible, but would it be justified, taking in account, this situation may happen, like, once in million?

I think, you'd have enough bother, managing your fuel tanks and engines. :)

philip.ed 11-06-2010 11:43 AM

Yes, you're right, it was a very rare situation.
What wasn't rare, though, was for fire, which has gotten into the cockpit, to be pushed into the pilots face by the mask because the mask acted as a human blow torch :eek: Scary stuff. Turning off the oxygen supply to the mask would help stop this ;)

Rodolphe 11-06-2010 11:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SaQSoN (Post 195967)
In the first place, it is rather rare happening. He, probably, got some oxygen lines between tank and mask partially severed, so the fire was sucked by air flow and brought into the mask.


Though the Oxygen regulator gages are visible on the instrument panel, the Oxygen lines are, for some strange reason, missing on this WIP screen of the Hurricane. ;)

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/attachm...9&d=1287754248






Hurricane Mk I Air Publication 1564A

#59 Oxygen supply bayonet socket
http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/Cokcpit33a.jpg






Hurricane Mk II Air Publication 1564B & D

#6 Oxygen supply cock.
http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/Cokcpit17a.jpg

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