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Dano 10-02-2010 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Tree_UK (Post 186556)
Oleg has never said he doesn't want the competetion to see it, anyway , what competetion? If what we have been told is true the game is all but finished other than bugs, so the imaginary competeion will see it soon anyway? Doh!!

Wrong again, maybe you should take the time to review Oleg's postings before spouting rubbish. Oh wait, you couldn't even be bothered to read what he said about the bonus video this week let alone anything he's said in the past so I guess that's not going to happen.

philip.ed 10-02-2010 10:43 AM

Tree's point is, simply, that he feels it isn't up to 2010 standards. Ideally, Oleg would reply to this and say whether they are still working on it or not. Read between the lines, it isn't hard.

furbs 10-02-2010 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by philip.ed (Post 186560)

cheers :)

Dano 10-02-2010 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by philip.ed (Post 186563)
Tree's point is, simply, that he feels it isn't up to 2010 standards. Ideally, Oleg would reply to this and say whether they are still working on it or not. Read between the lines, it isn't hard.

Hahahahahahhaha! This from somebody who can't even read what Oleg actually posts? LMAO!

furbs 10-02-2010 11:01 AM

Well...im also dissapointed "so far" with the landscape that we have seen. im hoping it will be much better by the time i get to play the game myself.

Like ive said before...we dont know what settings or setup Oleg is running to take screenshots, so its hard to judge the final look of the landscape.

Everything else Oleg has shown, from aircraft, ground units, clouds, damage model and crew has been fantastic and will set a new standard for flight sim.

The stuff he hasnt shown like, flight model, sound and others stuff im sure will also be great.
Taking all that into account, for me thats why im dissapointed "so far" with the landscape.

kendo65 10-02-2010 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Tree_UK (Post 186548)
I think its more to do with some of the things Oleg has said, for example Oleg was very dismissive of the 'Wings Of Prey' terrain, claiming that SOW would be far better, to date its simply not unless of course Oleg is holding something back which seems bizarre if we are as close to release as they would have us believe. Cinematic, and real time weather have been promised along with manning AA guns and DX11 etc , but so far we have not seen anything of these at this late date, so i think a lot of expectations have been brought about by the devs, who it seems maybe struggling to live up to them.
...

I think that's a fair point, but the main thing is that we've all filled in the blanks where there was a lack of information. We've assumed standards that maybe were just too high.

The reality was always going to have a hard time matching the dream we've all built up about this. It's inevitable given just how sky-high the expectations were. In our dreams it really was perfect.

A few months back people were resisting the idea that when they bailed out over England they wouldn't be able to interact in a completely life-like way with a fully realised miniature 1940s world - with cars, buses, cows in the fields, people walking around, etc as they made it back to their airfield on foot or swam the Channel.

Now Oleg did mention buses and traffic on the roads, also animals - but not in the way that some people latched onto it.

In truth, the landscape isn't scaling the heights that I'd hoped for (dreamt of...?) yet either, but unlike some others I don't think it's that far off. A little tweaking of colours / lighting to get away from the pastel effect - some of the 'polishing' that Oleg referred to, and some higher quality settings, AA, etc.

KG26_Alpha 10-02-2010 11:22 AM

This thread needs cleaning up.

Oleg

99% are grateful for your time and hard work giving us an update on Friday's.
1% are never going to be grateful or appreciative of your unique approach as a developer.

Keep smiling :)

ATAG_Dutch 10-02-2010 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Dutch_851 (Post 186421)
Tumbleweed floats and bounces gently across the screen..............:grin:

In answer to my own post it seems to me to be the contrast between the darkness of the trees and the paleness of the fields at this altitude in the SoW shots.
For the fields to be that pale, I'd expect the trees to be less black green and more green green, yet when we get lower, they seem more green green relative to the surrounding landscape.
Maybe a simple colour contrasting thing.
Anyone?:confused:

Ah, well......:rolleyes:

philip.ed 10-02-2010 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Dano (Post 186565)
Hahahahahahhaha! This from somebody who can't even read what Oleg actually posts? LMAO!

Show me. What have I done to upset you? I posted saying I wasn't happy with the clouds, and I think they could do with a bit of work to look 2010 quality.
I have always been grateful of Oleg's work; if I wasn't, I wouldn't send him dozens of research pages that he asked me to send him. What have you done to help him? Nothing.
Thankyou.

My original post. What is ungrateful about this:
Oleg, are the clouds shown final? They look quite nice, but IMHO are a bit grey? Also, they still look quite cotton-ballish. I hope this makes sense. I am sure it can be a feature that will always be tweaked from release, but this is just my two pence. Have a great weekend

Just my honest opinion from looking at the shots. No-one can tell me otherwise what I will think, or indeed try to put words in my mouth. Oleg has not said much on the clouds, other than the fact it won't be a cloud sim. I agree with him here, but I think they could be refined.
I posted a quote about this type of clouds. If you take my humble question, and try and twist it and laugh at me, then I will always reply to you. Can't we just enjoy the updates in our own way? I'd rather write a few lines on aspects that I feel need a bit of work compared to essays of praise (which I could easily write BTW).

Insuber 10-02-2010 11:37 AM

Nearmiss,

I suggest to limit these threads to 10 pages. IMHO 90% of posts beyond page 10 aren't worth reading, or are simply private quarrels between the usual people, repeating again and again the same 3 concepts and polluting any interesting debate.

Cheers,
Insuber


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