There was a point where New Zealand was more "American" than America where it came to economic policy. This was after the collapse of the interventionist Keynesian regime that spent large sums on giant steelmills that made a huge loss, which in turn was after the collapse caused by Britain joining the EEC and not buying NZ's exports any more. The hyper-American free-marketeers dismantled the state as far as possible, privatising everything, then there was a third collapse symbolised by the loss of electrical supply to Auckland because the distributor cut maintenance to boost profits until their network broke. I'd like to learn more of NZ's troubled history, it's grisly but fascinating.

Aw crud, now I have something else to research. Damn you :). I thought they just had a bunch of really weird animals.

Galway, I'll have to think on what you said. I am not sure they were completely inexperienced with such things given how powerful some companies were (like the East India Trading Company if I remember them correctly). There were many things they could not have envisioned, but none of those have invalidated their thoughts that they put down on parchment.

Example: They could never have envisioned the internet and yet their views on free speech still hold true.

Seldom do I ever read a thread that makes me think or re-think positions or that uncover anything interesting enough to send me off on a research jaunt.

Did this thread go off topic? Ummm, yeah, and I participated in it. Was it useful? Again I would say yes because while I saw a bunch of tired old arguments and prejudices that could not be substantiated, I also saw things that made me want to go do a little research. I think everyone should have their notions challenged on a regular basis to see if what they believe still holds true. It's healthy even when minds are not changed.

Of course, I agree with Mr. Churchill on an individual's evolution of political opinion :).

Splitter

Madfish (Cuddlefish) I couldn't careless if a nuke is modelled in SOW or not and that also goes for gore. I love il2 and it has neither. A nuke or gore in game will change what in your life........... nothing thats what. I take issue with all the whinning and crying, it sounds like a stinking nursery in here. The only reason people are protesting these issues is to say look at me, I'm evolved, I'm smarter than you, I'm morally superior to you............ I believe thats called moral narcissism. In other words get over your self and your better than tho attitude. If this doesn't apply to you:eek: than ignore the above.

Hunden, you seem to be under the impression that your opinions in this thread matter. They don't. Get over it.

I could say the same for you Andy, didn't I give you a spanking last I remember. LMAO:eek: I guess the above applies to you...........

That is called "total war", and has really nothing to do with leftist/rightist.

I think some people need a copy of this ....

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...gh/explode.jpg

IF S.O.W. in future not have blood for pilot dead in dogfight not have good explosion not have real crash not have all airplane ww2 not have nuke bomb not have chemichal bomb i not CALL this ww2 simulator.
I NOT CALL SIMULATOR of WW2 i repeat this is WORLD WAR 2 not a pacific flight and clean army.
ALLIED AND AXIS have secret army and illegal army during WW2.

we are combat pilotsand fly in one important and dangerous mission is fantastic.
YES TOTAL WAR this is WORLD WAR 2 no peace but all type of violence and all type of army is admited.

ok you don't want it ok play at a simple mission only dogfight and cooperative but need strategy need dangerous army need risk need adrenaline.

mmmmm ok if SOW have nuke program you locked whit money acces if you have much money you build NUKE or CHEMICAL or PROTOTYPE airplane for new dangerous mission and unlooked that type of army.

BASICAL AND LOGICA in one WORLD WAR is a MONEY yes MONEY if you dont't have it not WAR.

-MONEY
-FUEL OIL
-MAN
-FOOD
-TECNOLOGY

i have DEFCOM is a good program whit nuke bomb total war but not is a simulator is a TATICAl.

i have much idea for S.O.W. but in this moment i not put it now this post not just for it.

Chemical weapons weren't used in WWII, so it is irrelevant. We'll have have most of the planes that flew in Battle of Britain, even the Italian ones, and they'll burn and crash just fine. The only thing you won't have is blood and innards all over the place, and the nuclear bomb which did not exist during the Battle of Britain anyway.

I strongly suggest you go and find a nuclear strike game if that is so important to you.