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Winger 09-21-2011 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AARPRazorbacks (Post 339049)
Obviously I do get it.
You do not want the IIa in any server because you like to make yourself feel good by shooting down the under powered Spitfires.

The IIa was a better fighter then the 109 in a dog fight. did that mean thy never got shot down no.
When I first got into MP I knew that the Spitfires where not what thy should be.
I was told by the 109 pilots that it was not the plane but that the 109 pilots where better then the Spitfire pilots and the 109 where modeled right.

Now we hear that the 109 are not right.

When a pilot went out on his own during the war thy would be in big trouble if thy made it back with out being jumped by a group of enemy planes.

When thy talk about advantage thy where talking about numbers.

The 109 pilots would take on the IIa if and only if thy had the numbers to do so because thy knew it was a better plane.

What are you going to do when thy make the FM of the I and Ia fly like thy should?

Then theyll fix the 109 along with them and the 109 will still remain the better climber and faster plane. Like it really was.
And the balance remains like it currently is.

Winger

AARPRazorbacks 09-21-2011 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winger (Post 339050)
Then theyll fix the 109 along with them and the 109 will still remain the better climber and faster plane. Like it really was.
And the balance remains like it currently is.

Winger

You are right with the IIa in the severe's to give the balance.

Winger 09-21-2011 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AARPRazorbacks (Post 339051)
You are right with the IIa in the severe's to give the balance.

Hopeless. I am done with you:) Have fun in your UFO:P

winger

VO101_Tom 09-21-2011 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AARPRazorbacks (Post 339051)
Obviously I do get it.
You do not want the IIa in any server because you like to make yourself feel good by shooting down the under powered Spitfires.

That's the point. The 109 undermodelled too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AARPRazorbacks (Post 339051)
You are right with the IIa in the severe's to give the balance.

Read it slowly :rolleyes: : The performance of Spit I, Spit Ia, Hurri, 109 E-1, E-3, E-4 is undermodelled. The Spit II is not.
This is a huge and unfair advantage in parameters also, which should not. Do you understand why this problem? Relative to each other, there are no differences between the other aircrafts. The RAF planes turn better, the 109 climb better, and fastest a bit. The dive speeds almost equal. Spit is better at a manoeuvring ability, the Hurri more sluggish than the 109...

Ze-Jamz 09-21-2011 01:46 PM

I fear you can go over and over and over and over this same topic and 'some' people just do not get it and STILL think this is a big conspiracy to make it easier for the Blue side..

They really DO NOT get the whole ''undermoddeled/incorrect FM'' bit

trumps 09-21-2011 02:03 PM

dont waste your time trying to spell it out to him guys. i sort of miss the IIa now, especially when this flyer01 was online, he was my favorite person to vulch, lost track of the amount of times i pk'ed him, his little spaceship rarely blasted off ;)

Craig

Winger 09-21-2011 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ze-Jamz (Post 339083)
I fear you can go over and over and over and over this same topic and 'some' people just do not get it and STILL think this is a big conspiracy to make it easier for the Blue side..

They really DO NOT get the whole ''undermoddeled/incorrect FM'' bit

I dont think hes THAT dumb thou. I just think he doesnt WANT to get it:)
Or is it possible that he really is?

Winger

conio 09-21-2011 02:16 PM

Ok, lets see if this example makes people understand....

You have 3 cars:
1.- Ferrari
2.- Porsche
3.- Lamborghini

Ferrari and Porsche have the engine of a Volkswagen beetle (the old ones).
Lamborghini has a 12 cylinder 400HP engine.

Obviously, the Lamborghini has the correct engine but the Ferrari and Porsche are no match for it, making it an unfair race.
There are two solutions for this:
1.- Install the VW engine on the Lamborghini bringing them all to similar and competitive specs.
2.- Install the real engine on the Ferrari and Porsche.

Until 1 or 2 happens, Lamborghini should not be allowed in the race unless is a Lamborghini only race (Option 2 being the preferred/expected/desired/optimal/wanted solution).


The same logic applies if you replace:
Ferrari --> 109
Porsche --> spit I and/or Hurri
Lamborghini -> spit IIa

trumps 09-21-2011 02:42 PM

option 2 is the only real solution, this is a sim so it's got to be!

drewpee 09-21-2011 03:28 PM

LOL , The thought of a Ferrari with a ac 1300cc vdub engine is just too much for my mind to comprehend. I'd pay money to see a race of this sort. Maybe Top Gear could do it as a challenge.:grin:


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