http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/attachm...1&d=1316372425

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/attachm...1&d=1316372472

Like I sayed if you want to fly the IIa on MP join a server that has that plane if not don't.

That was on the ATAG full real servers and at least 20 of those were bombers...
And i never said the 109 had no chances against Spit Is or hurris.

To me it looks like you dont want to get it.
Again: The planeset spit Is and hurris against 109s stands for interestiung fights fo both sides.
Spit IIa against whatever stands for slaughterhouse with blue cattle.

That other shot you made was obviously made on one of the repka servers. I mean comeon. On this server everyone can make kills that can aim well. There is permanently anyone fighting against anyone and there also is someone getting into a fight catching somebody by surprise. Someone with a good aim and strong weapon can make kills en masse there.
A good shooter in a spit could make just as many kills with the right belting.

Winger

I didnt start this thread because one server introduced the spit IIa after that patch... They all did. Thank god the only (and up to now best) full real server with people on it (ATAG) now has taken it out and both sides have fun there i believe.

Winger

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...5-24_00006.jpg

Well to be honest about that pic sir, we would have to know how long you were flying on the server, wouldn't we?

And your score proves nothing about the Spit IIa, and mostly says something about your skills and the lack therof of your opponents.

:cool:

Congratulations...

And that wasnt the last of them either...stupidly easy to rack up kills in that thing

My point is and as I've said hundreds of time, the stats mean nothing in this game currently, I posted this on the back end of what Winger posted above..

Makes me laugh on the futile attempts of people trying to justify why this plane should be in the servers or not.....still

I think the stats show some tendencies and as such are valid.

It is still fact that all planes except the spit 2a are undermodelled. This does not make the Spit 2a overmodelled but we need historic performance for ALL aircraft. What's there to discuss about?

At last..

I really didnt think it was that hard for everyone to understand as to why were having a discussion here..but it seems we keep going backwards and the whole ''yea but i just shot down 2 Spit2's with my 109'' comes up OR ''I just got owned by a 109 in my Spit2 so whats the problem?''

Its nothing to do with Pilot Skill, nothing to do with Stats..its to do with FM's that are not modeled correctly

Give me strength..

It really doesn't matter if it a n isle map and people just cant wait to fly into a furball, rinse and repeat..leave it in them servers, after all they are stupidly easy to fly and are great fun..but for big map mission based FR servers leave them out because they are 'not fair'.. not fair being 2 words that i hope just sums it up really

How can this be? Sure, you're not listening when they said, that the Spit II is actually not a good aircraft. Then sitting into and shoot down nearly forty aircraft. Great. And then what about the reds? http://www.pumaszallas.hu/forum/imag...ies/motz_7.gif

Nice points anyway ;)

One day, I tried the same test, but with Spit Ia. I collected 7-8 points and one KIA (chute did not open), but there was no time to continue. All I've done, I didn't pushed on zero meters below the dogfights, climb when I did not see anyone, and (who neurasthenic do not read further) i left the target, when another 109 appears... :rolleyes: