S!

Black Death average went from 47 to 70FPS :) Nice boost. But the minimum in same track dropped from 11 to 3.

Nearly finished uploading

Ohhh that really is a shame :( That is the only thing i was looking forward to from this patch is smooth FPS on take off roll...really the only thing i was looking forward too. It's not my hardware, I have a 680 GTX also. I am willing to bet this was high on the list for most people too.

Oh well, thanks 1C for releasing the patch, very excited still. :)

Patch! :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plWnm7UpsXk

Hi All
Thanks to everyone involved in trying to get the patch sorted.

Downloaded and installed patch, ran a single mission, seemed to be an improvement, ran a lot smoother only a slight stutter when hitting aircraft.
I tried airfield attack , flying as LW in single mission, and got a launcher stopped working crash, will keep trying other missions and give feedback.

Intel Q6600@ 2.4
AMD 6870 1gb

4gb Ram

Win7 32 bit

Cheers

Enyaw

Alleluja!

Thank.

How are the new sounds? Sounds like they added quite a few of them in the release notes. Is the old good sun rises/lighting back?

I don't download beta patches so happy testing guys! I look forward to your feedback and screens/videos.

So can anyone confirm if there is low fps on take-off roll / landing? I am going to test myself in a few minutes i really hope for the best.

Thanks!

Im i the only one having the game crash when trying to start it?

improvement
 

Ran black death with everything maxed except Number of Buildings set to "high", not "Unlimited".
Went from 38FPS average to 50. But my minimum FPS dropped by 1 from 4 to 3.
Seems stable. I love the new reflected shockwave effect of the explosions!
Back to do more testing-

Just installed new ATI 12.4 driver for my AMD 7970! Lets see how than plays out! Patch is still downloading!

Alternative Beta Patch downloadlink Gamefront
 

http://www.gamefront.com/files/21658...2COD_17582.rar

BTW this is the international version not the russian

Hm. Interesting. My fps stay at a rock steady 30fps no matter what. Even attacking bombers over London with everything maxed out - even land shading on original. I think the increase is there but something on my system or in the game has put a ceiling on it. It makes the game run very smoothly to be sure and I am not a high fps freak anyway. Definately no cloud shadow though.

Thx for the patch ! some improvement fps even when i reset the mission with the clouds : average 10fps more ingame. Your challenge in 25% improvement is succesful...
May i say you saved your head ? ;)

They actually said the fps shot up twice

Well i'm not on my own.

Haven`t tried it yet, but downloading!

Thx for the patch! Try it tomorrow just called my wingman!

+1

Lol Tree ! you bugger ! :) they promised at minima 25% and maxima 50%... so please consider the glass as half full !

Over all the Performance is better. But the FPS thing is such a Fake. They Disabled the Clouds... muhahahahaha... Without Clouds i had same effects. At my Machine no difference to before this Beta Patch in FPS. I think it was better before, because that was WITH CLOUDS!!!

Machine:
i7 980 XTreme, Asus Rampage II, 12 GB DDR3 RAM in Tripple Channel Mode, 2x590 GTX NVIDIA with 3 GB DDR 5 RAM, Win7 HE.

Sorry, how can i put it back to the Version before the Fake?

Oh yeah!!! ;)

So let me get this straight.

You removed a load of fps eaters and then we report an increase in fps and all are happy?

THX alot Shea !

~S~ :)

You can delete CoD "Local Content" using Steam and then simply re-install. This patch is a fake :) A 6+ month fake. Also, the cockpits look a bit low-res to me than before, but I suppose I need to re-install old version to really confirm this.

:) houaaa

I was just about to download the patch but after reading the changelog and comments I decided to wait another couple of month.

Disabling Clouds? Hardly surprising that some noted FPS increase.....

Great FPS increases here on my ole Core2Duo E8600 at 4.4GHz,3GB RAM and GTX295 -Win 7 HP 64Bit .Very happy .Thanks.

Bad. Ran the Black Death track before and after patch. I emptied the cache. The fps is worst, the game has a lot more of stutter, with settings maxed out. Here are the figures:

Before : avg/max/min 28/61/3
After : 24/44/1 (not fluid at all)

Settings maxed out:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...sVideoCloD.jpg

But maybe the Death Track isn't good because it has clouds and grass ... ???

I did not download the patch and tried it but they said that they did not turn off clouds in general only far and medium distant clouds. So actually you should still have clouds but only close distance ones. Of course this will explain a good deal of the fps gain.

Direct download mirror for the International Version:
http://senect.com/hadal/files/il-2_c...2COD_17582.rar

I'll leave it there for the forseeable future ;)

So everything on max even SSAO turned on i got smooth flying even down low! Only Problem is some stutter over buildings! Average FPS 49!

But AI commands still dont work properly! Ai changes formation when commanded to do so but does not attac when ordered! And no Voice only written response! !

Big improvement for me with GTX260 - game now much smoother at low levels over land.

Tried the patch to see the fixed G50. Quick mission against hurricanes made me realize how broken the AI is and that Single player is still pretty much unplayable due to AI godly physics and FM defying 1337 flying skillz. Cannot believe that i actually paid for this. See ya at the next patch and do not expect me to buy Battle of Moscow or anything else you may be planing before if this s**t is not fixed.

Super quick test, free flight over London:
Looking down in cockpit at the city
Before Patch= 24 FPS
After Patch = 35 FPS
I fly with clouds off anyway, so it seems an improvement, on my machine at least.

Are you using nVidia Adaptive VSync (half refresh rate) by any chance?

Have you tried the modified AI in quick missions yet? It makes the AI a lot more realistic and you won't need to worry about the impossible maneuvering.

Guys I haven't been able to try it yet but one thing I notice is that many posters don't give their specs: Hardware including native resolution, OS, DX version, GPU manager settings and game settings. Thats really important if devs are going to assess and understand any problems.

Suggest you go back and edit your posts and add any missing specs.

Just saying its great or its naff doesn't mean anything unless you say what you are trying to run.

Thanks 1C for giving us something to spend the time, the discussions on the forum were getting a bit of nonsence... :)

Nice weekend (what is left of it)

~S~

HTA,

checked with a track i made before the last patch.
I did first one run with the original game:

Avg./Max./Min. 26/42/9

Then i applied the patch and did several runs (cleared cache before):
1. 36/57/23
2. 32/52/17
3. 31/53/19
4. 31/54/20
5. 31/53/17
6. 31/54/19

So definitely faster and on my system it seemed smoother as well.
Interestingly the first run with a cleared cache folder was the fastest ....


k2600/ stock speed
8GB Ram
ATI 6950/2GB
Win 7/64

Doh! Thanks for that.

Vsync
 

Thanks B6 .
I tried the patch at verious settings then went to Max settings with Vsync & ssao off .Frame rates took a big leap up.

Any ETA on when a DX9 friendly version of the patch will be ready?

My FPS is horrible now. I set graphics to medium and turned off grass and set low on buildings and trees, which was not needed before, i used to play with most setting high. It was somewhat ok offline. When i tried online my FPS during take off and fight was simply unplayable. Then when i got hit and tried to bail out i got CTD (after having played for 10 mins maybe). Well back to ROF again. This looks like we are moving nowhere.

Well emptied all my cache prior to installing the patch, installed patch and kept my settings the same as before the patch my FPS dropped by at least 25FPS, increased my settings and my FPS nearly went into single figures!

Windows 7 64bit
5770 ATI 1 GigRam GDDR5
8mg Free Ram
ASUS Motherboard

Awesome, downloaded very fast ;)



Maybe you have Vsync enabled and triple buffering turned off? If so, i think that with a 60Hz monitor you are limited to 60FPS or non-decimal increments thereof (60, 30, 15), ie: if you are in a situation where your PC can only push 45 FPS instead of 60, with these settings you will get 30FPS.

If you want to really see what the system can do you can simply disable Vsync for a while. However, the fact that you get solid FPS with Vsync on is also very encouraging, because it's usually the fluctuations in FPS that cause stutters. For me, as long as it stays at 30 or more and it's steady, i'm perfectly happy.

EDIT: I just saw your question was answered and it was Vsync related :-P


I never used this track for testing. Just like in the previous IL2 series, tracks made on older versions of the sim tend to have erratic behaviour when viewed on a newer version.

What i do is fly a couple of quick missions and compare the average FPS between different versions. It's not 100% accurate this way because it depends on how i fly (low, high, near terrain or not, etc), but i still think it's better than using a track made on a previous version.

Plus, if you do the same things each time, it doesn't skew the results much.

What i usually do is select the ground attack quick mission where blue attacks manston. I put myself in a flight of four 110s with bombs, set the enemy flight that starts on the ground to defiants and set every other flight to zero aircraft. Then i go and bomb the trucks/train at the edge of the airfield and strafe the defiants as they are taxing for take-off.

This let me see all that i need to know in terms of FPS in a practical scenario:
- Does it stutter when i get close to ground/zoom into the gunsight?
- Does it stutter when buildings and trees load or explosions happen?
- Is the FPS stable when transitioning between flight over water to flight over land and different altitudes?
etc etc.

It's a low level mission so it has some graphics load, the attack profile i need to fly is very specific (i just pop-up a couple of miles outside manston and then dive bomb at 40 degree angle or so with a delay fuse on the bombs) and the opposition is on the ground, so it's easy to repeat a very similar flight each time and test for FPS differences between patches because i don't have to evade enemy AI. I just fly the same attack each time and note the differences in FPS.

You could even record a track for each of the two sorties if you wanted and then it would be easier to compare, because you would be able to watch each track on the version it was made on and be able to both have reliable track playback and also be free to monitor your FPS instead of also flying at the same time. ;)

Have you tried to clear you cache folder?
Also, what version was the server running? It never works well for any game when you join a server that runs a different version than your local installation.

Awesome

*
I tried the patch. It installed (copy) itself without any trouble and the game started without any problem, no cache cleaning needed.
In my case I did not see a big improvement in fps, especially above London the minimum fps is still very low, seven (7), the max is higher 70 before it was 50 so the medium is a little higher also 30. The clouds have a big impact.
Over London the stutter seems 20% better and there is less stutter near the ground.
Radio communications are simplified and the other pilots do obey to them. But the ground control does not but this I should test again.
:grin:
All in all for the moment I love it, thanks to the team of creators.:-P

The patch does what it says, does not give more fps, the cabins are more blurred, so you lose quality, and the terrain textures also lose quality, are not at full quality

I have the same fps as before, 25, and I have this computer:

I5 2500K 3400mhz
Asus p8z68 v gen3
8 GB ram ddr3 1600mhz kingston hyperx xmp
antec 1000w
gtx 550 ti 970 mhz


thank goodness I did a backup before installing it, that's not the way, and if you follow so the expansion of Russia will have few buyers.

a game with my team have to give 60fps minimum, below 60 is a very big decision, we are in 2012 and can not be required unless, remind me to pay € 69.90 for a game that does not work as it should

another link
http://dl.free.fr/mdX24c7n5 (international)

Thank you for the hard work & have a nice weekend!

Thx x the patch but...................is this a joke or something?
No improvment on fps,still stutters with grass even with res 1440x900,still stutters with low trees no grass at 1920x1080,with dust during landing 2-3 fps ahahahah!!!!!!!!Was hoping a boost in graphic.....yeah right same thing noting changed!!!!!!
See ya` x next patch very disappointed!!!!!

Download it, installed it, had a look around, FPS samey for me, new sounds nice (especially G.50 engine sounds and breda safat MG sounds). More bugs introduced than fixed though, see ya'll when the "real" patch is out, good luck with the beta testing. :)

Haven´t installed yet, but i´m thinking that anybody that touched conf.ini to mannually asign cores should set that to automatic???

Yep, sums it up nicely. Back to RoF.

Thanks, downloading now.

New build here, I7-E 3960X six core @ 4,6 GHz, 16 GB ram, GTX 680 ETC, re-installed Il2 CoD earlier and am looking fwd to trying this patch.

Yay.

Patch notes and user feedback is leaving me feeling rather underwhelmed.

Certainly doesn't sound like the game changer i was hoping for.

Just tried online and had the dreaded CTD after 20 mins on my first sortie.

It used to be about 45mins and now its 20mins so that's improved then....6 months for this?

Stutters worse.
FPS slightly improved but no clouds so im guessing that's the improvement.
Ground textures worse.
Blurry dials.
Sound odd.
Plane textures on 109 all blocky.
Particles cause MAJOR FPS drop STILL.

But by far the most disappointing aspect is the online CTD is NOT FIXED!!!

Agreed.

disappointed just doesn't quite express it.

After a few hours of flying.......
 

The skins of the aircraft have lost their beautiful faded texture, I cannot seem to recapture it with the weathering slider.......paint still chipped, but paint jobs themselves look like they just left the factory at Castle Bromwich or Fiat.
It is now all I can do to even catch a CR-42 in a Hurricane :(
Nice uptick in FPS but at the expense of clouds. Occasionally it seems I will lose my tracers?
I haven't really noticed the decrease in resolution of the pits, not sure why this is being reported. Driver issue?
Wingmen still recalcitrant when it comes to following orders.
Huge FPS drop when you damage a plane in front of you with your guns. I never noticed that before.
Very difficult much of the time to see through the new prop texture.
All in all, not sure there is alot to cheer about. It seems most of the things they wouldn't release the patch about a week ago are still here.
I think alot of people might find this a little confusing...............
Positive side:
AI very aggressive now in quick missions.
Shadows do not shimmer anymore.
Hurricane & Spit now overheat if you push them.
No crashes (never had them )
Nice bump in FPS (wasn't a problem on my rig before though)
Anyone tried taking off in the Blenheim yet?

Thanks for your answer. Yep i tried to clear the cache, not that it was needed, it automatically updated the files inside but anyways ... i did. I ran the ATAG beta server, i hope it was meant for this beta test. I gave it another try and it went much better after i disabled anti-aliasing. I was able to get smooth FPS high in the air but low near urban areas it was not so impressive. So ok i can live without anti-aliasing.

Awesome news !
Thanks for your hard work !
Downloading right now, will report if something goes wrong :grin:

So I just successfully flew my 1st all human Ju88 sortie in formation without a crash. 4 of us flew from Tramcourt to England (1.5 hour sortie) and not a single one of us crashed. Before as we were forming up / taking off we'd crash one by one within 10 minutes flying together. A big improvement there.

Even just with that aspect, that opens up a whole bunch of possibilities for the guys wanting to fly proper bomber sorties. More to test, but I've yet to have a crash.. A good sign and a step in the right direction.

good news from ATAG

btw there is still very random results from a rig to another
maybe 1c should get more video cards to run their tests

thanks, I have big improvement in fps.

CTD again after 3 mins of flying. Good night and happy testing.

Well i dont know whats going on Bliss, ive tried 2 sorties on ATAG and 2 CTD's,
1st 20mins in a 109.
2nd 10mins in a spit1.

Have not run the patch yet, however, I'll probably wait till its "improved". I've had the same problem with my 3gig 580 before the patch...landing fps at 3/4 and when your guns hit planes in front of you..fps drops 40%. Basically particle effect issues. So the patch doesn't look like its solved those, and alpha testing is just not for me. Thanks for the hard work, hopefully it will bear real fruit one day, I just dont think that day is today.

Six months for this? the comunity found more bugs now that you developers could find in all this time??

I think they dont know what to do, please hand over the game to another company or release the sdk and everything to the comunity, im sure there are a lot of talented people who can save this sim.

haven't installed yet but...finally!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX5tfRdkoY0
cheers!

Ok so I extracted the patch into Steam /Common /il2cliffs folder and clicked over write all files . Meanwhile when I start it up in the top right hand screen it stills says 1.05.15950 . What am I doing wrong?:confused:

+1

Plus everyone that still gets CTDs please send your crash dump files to 1C as per Blacksix request.

Turn vsynk off. If you need it make sure to force triple buffering ON with a 3rd party utility (check my sig). Vsynk traps fps to 60, 30 or 15.

Anybody?

Use this tool to fine tune AI http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=31573

They just have their "Advanced Flying" skill set too high by default.

Thanks for the patch Devs.

After some poor reports and against my better judgement I risked installing the patch and I'm pleasantly surprised. CloD already ran well on my system (spec below) but stutter is now non-existent and I'd say I'm getting a 10-15fps boost as well. I'm running without clouds and fps are 70-120 with Vsync on (120hz monitor) For me credit where credit is due...well done Devs!

I did have a 'white' Spitfire' on take off on the Airfield Attack QM but other than that no problems as yet. I reckon it's worth a re-boot after patch installation if things don't seem right.

The Hurricane FM now feels a bit like what it must be like to fly a double decker bus IMO :-)

Intel I5 2500k @ 4.6
8GB Ram
Gigabyte HD7950 Windforce
Windows 7 64 bit

Check folder paths and copy folder by folder to appropriate locations again.

Ok I extracted Bob and Core seperatley into their folders . hopefully that works. Edit : Nope that didn't work either . DamBit ! Are you telling me that everyone on this sight installing the patch is extracting every folder sereatley into all their respective folders ? Am I doing the right thing by selecting over write files?

S!

Pencon, simpliest way is just to extract the package then COPY the PARTS folder that appears and drop it in the IL-2 Folder under STEAM :) Works.

Try to run it 2 times with FPS counter OFF and measure only the 3rd pass. It may take time for windows to cache new files, textures, etc.

Also original texture quality may cause issues.

With SSD file fragmentation should not be a huge issue, but try defragging the game folder after patching anyway.

You open archive and open game folder. Then you check folder names to see where which folder is located inside game folder. Then merge folders inside game folder with folders from the archive by dropping the latest to the game folder.

Good improvement for me, now FPS drops to about 20 only over London, but it is playable.
The game is finally fixed for me. Now it needs more content...

It seems that AA started to work at least on some systems. If you have lower FPS after the patch check if you have AA on in game and in drivers. AA puts a lot of load on GPU.

Compare before/after FPS under the same conditions - with AA off both in game and in drivers.

You mean I have to extract every single file and folder from the patch to the game folder files seperately? You'd think they could make it a little more simple for us noobs. I know I'm gonna screw this up . Black 6's instructions on page 1 says "Just install into the mainfolder , he doesn't say extract every folder seperately .. This is pretty confusing .....

Not every single file but 2 folders that you find in the archive.

1st Have you seen the bug thread?

2nd no more content for CLOD.

FPS is worse for me it would seem. Cleared cache, removed tress & grass... sigh.

Rubber banding and wild erratic fps in multiplayer. I suppose i give the final patch another go.. but i've lost all faith in this Dev team.

You mean Bob and Core ? I did that already . Didn't make a difference . I still have version 1.05.1595.0

Do I need to restart the computer? Is that why it ain't showing up?

If you look at Blacksix post he mentions the grass and clouds need optimizing and should take 3 days each to fix. thats why you may get low frames still on the ground.

Out of interest, I tried these same settings, except my resolution is at 1920 x 1080. I got:
avg/max/min 36/97/3

This also wasn’t fluid, with a lot of ‘delayed rendering’ errors. I then set everything to ‘High’, turned SSAO off, and got:
avg/max/min 42/99/7

With these settings there were none of the previous errors, and it was a lot more fluid. I didn’t test the max settings before the patch, but got similar frame rates to your original ones with much lower graphics settings. I have had a substantial increase in frame rates with the beta patch. My cpu speed is at 4.2GHz with a Corsair H100 cooler, psu is a 600W CoolerMaster.

Tried a restart , no difference, what number is it supposed to show?

ok tried this patch sadly its terrible for performance still , going to have to say goodbye to this series, move into another series that caters for everybody and there pcs, and has everything u could ask including performance and regular patch updates, farewell all.. may return in a year but for now am done with this.

DX10 vs DX9?
 

How can you tell which you have installed?

Win XP is DX9.

Vista and Win 7 will be DX10.

Go to your start button and type in the Run slot - dxdiag . It'll be on there . I have DX11 I hope that's not an issue . Not that I can even get the game patched at all .

+1

I can't stand when people complain that they can't run a game, if your computer is a piece of ****, buy a new one or shut up and play 1946 or WOV2 BOB, you know old games that don't require good PC's instead of bitching and begging the developer to make a game that looks like **** so you and everyone else can run it.

Ridiculous.

Very small minded opinion, unfortunately I can't post exactly how I feel about your comment or the thought process involved in making it because my post would be deleted...

Suffice it to say... I think 'your' view is small minded.

My system is top spec AND I have tested the game on a Alienware machine also... This game is just riddled with bugs and performance issues!

This patch goes some way to fixing the problems but from what I've read so far there is still a long...... long way to go!

As my name suggests I am far from happy at spending my well earned money on this game, how on earth something that performs this badly could ever be released to the public FOR SALE is beyond me!

At the very least they should have the decency to give the client some information about these performance issues BEFORE they pay for it!

My comp specs more than match the 'recommended' specs posted... it was not until I actually played the game online and then searched on the internet that I found out how many people are in the same boat!

Crazy world!

Refunds department????

Knock it off!