Well yes, Egypt and areas under British control. Most ( all? ) went to the SAAF. I tend to lump it all into North Africa as that is where most of the later combat was. Early on it would have been against the RA of course.

Here Here!
 

I agree! I am so tired of hearing "I got you covered" and then seeing my wingman go off after a target on his own.

With that being said, some Air Forces seem to have had better teamwork than others. For example American unit discipline appears to have been very strong while, from my reading, the Japanese were less team players...

Indeed. Teamwork had little place in their cultural ethos of the Samurai, at least as far as fighter pilots went. The Japanese air services clung to an outdated tactical dicta, that of one on one aerial combat. And quite honestly, in the early stages of the war, they had the best trained pilots in the world in the art of dogfighting. The Army and Navy flight schools washed out many, many good pilots to crew positions, that would have been aces in any other air force.

This of course came back to bite them hard as they were unable to quickly replace ever growing losses from 1943 onwards. New Guinea in particular became a meat grinder for Imperial Japanese Army Air Corps pilots, as the Allies better understood how to use their faster, more heavily built aircraft against the Japanese. There is an amazing statistic the book "Fire in The Sky", the Japanese army lost 350 veteran pilots that had over 500 combat hours in New Guinea. This gutted their base of experienced pilots and they never fully recovered.

The battles of the Coral Sea and Midway did for the IJN what NG did for the IJA. The early Japanese successes were only possible because of the excellent pilot qualities, and when these pilots were lost, the IJN had no advantage left.

This Samurai attitude btw. wasn't even limited to the air forces, same was true for about every branch of armed forces the Japanese. The Japanese were supposed to be superior soldiers to make up for low numbers and bad equipment. If your cannon doesn't penetrate the enemies armour while his cannon can pierce yours at 2000m, you'll still win because you're the better soldier. Or not. In some aspects, the Japanese attitude was quite extreme.

But this is going off topic. :oops:

hi all can we have an option in 4.12 to "take out" "see no pilot/ crew" from the inside and outside the planes in IL2 the fighters and bombers look better with out them :-P

Hey TD, good work, however, Could we include Nationalist and Republic Spain Air force because we are missing some very important countries.

As in WWII time period of Il-2 Sturmovik 1946, We need to include more squadrons for France, because there are more than just one.

Also we are missing Countries like South Africa, plus Yugoslavia is needed to be added because German and Italy attack them. Plus Denmark, Greece, Belgium, and Norway should be added because they were involved in World War II. Plus how can we miss China ? China is a Major country and It was under attacked by Japan in World War II.

Also I request that we should need more Polish Aircraft such as PLZ 24 (Also served in Greece) and we also would need Polish Bombers and I would request that we need more French Fighters and we need some French Bombers along during the 1940 period.

Nationalist China is out I'm guessing for current political (read, sales) reasons.

Just have to make do with skins.

That, and MatManager has an option to sub out one of the nationalities for nationalists China. Of course, this only applies to the aircraft markings, not the pilot voices.

awesome td! thanks for the Ki-45 ;)

Ooooh, that plane is going to be so much fun :grin:

war is never been so much fun )))

Another great addition.

If there was a new map I would ask for inmediate release just with this features.

I'm so happy to see the flyable Hawk-75 coming along, finally haha!
Even though it will have a Finnish cockpit, I'll be happy to fly it on the Burma map. The RAF had two squadrons in Burma from mid-42 til Jan 44. Not too much air to air combat but mostly escort and ground strafing and dropping light bombs. Thanks TD!

Maybe an idea to restore on-line confidence again.

As we know everyone is concerned about the validity of FMs ,DMs and other goodies when flying online. Is it possible for TD produce a 'secure' server (vanilla, certain mods) as it used to be.

This would go far in reinstating the original online confidence that IL2 used to have.
:)

I can't wait to see the P-40 updates :)

*Insert drool smilie here*

:cool:

I have links to info on teh jug having a constant speed prop and that teh 50 cal. used a loadout of 4 api and 1 apit round in it's belt but for some reason i cannot copy and paste to here.

Please look into this for 4.12.

The HE round has been in the game since the beginning, and it's one of the reasons the .50 BMG has been less effective than it was historically. It was deleted in 4.11.1

The new belting is far better.

The in game P 47 has always had a constant speed prop, all US aircraft have them.

From the 4.11.1 readme...

El....then why can't teh Jug have auto prop pitch settings? And you are right about teh he round. but it is still week with having 2 ap rounds instead of adding 2 more api rounds. The power rating is higher for api or apit. Would be a harder hitting belt load.

Constant speed is not the same as auto pitch.

With constant speed prop the pilot selects the rpm and the prop will adjust the blade angles to keep constant rpm no matter where the throttle is set, within the prop's range of course.

Auto pitch is like the German system on Bf 109 and FW 190, a very different thing.

awww ok. I see said the blind man. So we have no way of setting a constant rpm on the Jug then to make use of it. I will continue to have to adjust prop pitch.

You cannot adjust prop pitch, you can only change rpm.

Indeed - the HUD message is misleading.

Will the "shared kill" also be available online (DF servers and COOPS) ?

Been over at the CoD forum for a very long time. Back here now. Apologies if this has been asked already, but are there any plans to add a South East England/Channel Map in 4.12? Pretty please ....

PPP

Asked many times.
Clear NO for that because of CoD.
But you can UP3RC and DBW your Game and there are plenty of them.

Righto, thanks Spad.

PPP

... and can anyone tell me if FMB triggers and/or off-runway starts (in coops) are now a possibility or in the pipeline?

Thanks

PPP

Off-runway starts are possible online, but only for humans. And they work very well. Total change in inmersion.

In 4.12, the AI will have that possibility too. It's one of the first updates in the thread: http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=31724

So are you saying I am not really changing prop pitch even tho that is what is set in my keys it's really jsut adjusting rpm?

Yes, that is how a real constant speed prop works.

The pilot cannot choose the angle of the blades, he chooses the rpm and the blades adjust automatically to keep the desired rpm, so that for instance, in a dive the blades would get more and more coarse to try to keep the desired RPM as speed increased, and in a climb they would go to finer pitch to keep RPM up as the aircraft slowed.

The lone exception to this on US aircraft is the Curtiss Electric Propeller. It could work in 2 modes, as a normal constant speed prop, as described above, or the pilot could go to a manual mode where it worked as a variable pitch prop, like a 109 with it's auto prop disabled, where the pilot directly sets the blade angle. It is not modeled correctly in the sim on the P 40 and P 38 aircraft that used the Curtiss Prop.

tropicalised Hurricanes
 

can we see a tropicalised Hurricane with a Vokes engine dust filter in the sim like the mk IID. also a repaint of the hurricanes joystick would be great:-P

Bombsights
 

Pleaaaaase fix the bomb sights!

The bombers that use the same sight as HE-111 are useless... please just swap it for the russian bombers sights, those work.

Whats wrong with them? I've done precision bombing from medium altitudes in most bombers and while there are a few quirks.. on the whole the He111 bombsight works just fine. As does the one on the Ju88A-4.

The altimeters in the bombardier's position in the bomber are barely functionable and the bombardier's interface also seems to have problems with the speed indicators on the aircraft do not seem to work past 10,000 feet. It is impossible to gauge your altitude correctly from up there. The airspeed indicators do not give you altitude and it's practically impossible to drop the bombs while operating with "no speed bars" difficulty mode. It's useless to set the altitude and velocity without the speed bar. There are no tutorials in the game on how to read gauges on the aircraft or what they look like or how to fly with gauges shot out. I wish there could be tutorials in the game on how to read a tachometer or an altimeter or a fuel gauge, for those people out there, unlike me, who don't know aviation.

I wish there could be training aircraft and training tutorials for basic flight instruction or more detailed take off procedures for various aircraft. It's like you have to be a trained pilot to operate anything in the sense of being like Chuck Yeager, and it's not real friendly towards those who are beginning to understand aviation and flying planes.
I'm not looking for arcade sim, either. They never read properly above 10,000 feet.

Flying in the games without the white words and having those disabled when flying to add more realism is impossible. Forget it. Setting the bombing altitude, velocity, and bombsight settings is completely impossible because you are unable to know what altitude you're setting it at and you can not see it at all and you do not see it in the bomb interface, even though the bombsight would probably have the set altitude displayed in the sight mechanism and all that. It would tell you what altitude you're flying at.

Setting it without the letters is impossible. The game as a whole is useless when you disable the white words on the right hand screen. Is there a way to remedy that?

Also engine seizures are difficult to deal with, instead of cutting back power, the whole engine just seems to run until it can't run anymore. Are they any complex ways to deal with it? I hope so. Engine seizures are annoying.

Patchman, suggest you register at M4T. Where you will find this:
http://www.mission4today.com/index.p...p=show&kid=283
or you could try this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPFy2...eature=related
M4T also has instructions on how to dive bomb using the bomb sight in a JU88, if you're really keen. You can stop whining now.

any news about 4.12?

Some new things was imported, I hope that will be soon video or any exactly info in update post.

I can't wait to see the P-40's wings fixed

+1000000000000000

:cool:

:grin:
Yeah, no kidding about that.

It's going to be great :)

Of course the downside is that my huge collection of skins will no longer work...

:(

Ying and Yang and for every Negative there is a positive.

!0-years of waiting (maybe a little less) and the P-40 gets a make-over.....20-years and the P-47 gets a new cockpit ;) ??

Cheers, MP

The old P-40 extreme wing dihedral is finally being tweaked? Or is this still wishful thinking?

Has this actually been announced by someone from TD? The only post about this is the recent comment from Fighterace, unless I've missed something.

It may only be wishes for now. It's one of the more glaring visual offenses that remain in the game and, frankly, I'm quite surprised it's persisted for so long.

I think that'll be a small price to pay ;)

True enough.

Is there anything new ? I haven't seen a single post about new updates of 4.12 since May 31st.

saturated )))

Then look at the updates' topic.

Well it looks like I might have to eat my little sailor hat... :-P

Excellent news, a brand new P-40E! (Presumably also M & M-105??)
Here's hoping for a couple of N's as well one day! :cool:

Probably.
As we cannot promise them 100% for 4.12, they didn't came up in the development update, but here I can tell you, that there is more in work too.

Very early WIP!

-K
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/68344843/DT%20Updates/P40K.jpg

-M
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/68344843/DT%20Updates/P40M.jpg

-N
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/68344843/DT%20Updates/P40N.jpg


I personally hope, there is time for an -F too. Let see, what Macwan is able to bring on. :cool:

Excellent update!

This forum REALLY needs a DROOL emote.


:grin:

Wow, a P-40N.

I cannot wait.

Looks great eh? Macwan is doing a fabulous Jon with these an I wish him a lot of luck in getting these finished. Excited to see the P-40 given some attention.

Thanks for the Multi-Gun feature TD. Great stuff.
It'll be nice eventually to see this feature integrated into other models, like the M3 Lee/Grant and others. But great to see it in the Russian multi turret tanks to start with.

Love it!!

Can't wait, the new P40 looks FAB! And there is possibly an N on the way, Just Christmas!

Cheers

Leady

So ... the new P-40 doesn't have its offset fin?

The fin on all short tail P-40s was offset to the left by 1 1/2 degrees (and the rudder trim tab was actually a trimmable balance tab). All long tails have zero fin offset and the trim tab no longer functioned as a balance tab.

Just beautiful!

Wow, just wow... :cool:

With an F as apossibility too? Speechless.
(Actually isn't an L just a K with an F (Merlin) nose?? ;) )

That looks so awesome...Best Update ever TD :)

great update i hope we do not have to wait untill Christmas :-P

Thanks TD this is great!
 

Excellent news!

Each time i read that something new is coming in the (good :) ) old IL2 sim, it makes my day...

Seriously IL2 1946 is still a giant, i feel like it could still aspire to "the-best-WW2-sim" title. Incredible.

TY Oleg Maddox and Team Daidalos!

This is looking fantastic. Congratulations to TD. The game just keeps getting better.

Cheers

thanks DT I wonder if we are going to have updates. I like the look of the P-40N. Also how is the B-24 project ?

Wow great news. But how about Italian G55 cockpits? Does we have a hope get its flyable in 4.12?

Since the later P-40 series are getting updated, will the P-40B/C's be updated too?

hip-hip-hip-hurrah! thanks very much TD for your work, it's great!
i hope is possible to have in future patches also a soviet planes "restoration" :)

Personally speaking, the P-40B is a rather good model with a nice texture, like the P-36 actually.
Only the H87/Warhawk series really needs an upgrade, I think.

BTW, thanks for the positive comments guys and I wish this model can be finished soon.

Cheers !

Probably not, sorry! :(

Legendary AC deserves a new model and pit !
 

MiG3, especially, really needs improvements, both the model and the cockpit.
What do you guys at TD think? Is there a hope to see it improved one day?

Just a wish, i'm already so happy with what you guys give us :)

Have to agree with Macwan here, the Hawk 81s and 75s in game are good 3D representations of those aircraft.

And thanks to you sir for your work on the new Hawks and all your skins over the years.

Indeed, I agree too, I'dd rather they focus on correcting the wings of the others and creating the new ones, I hope they'll also get opening canopies.

~S~

the p40s are ok in the sim its the bf109s that need new cockpits :-) also the gun buttons on the spitfires need a repaint/redone

BF-109 definitely needs new cockpit. BF-109 is one of the most important plane in IL-2 1946 with a lot of its versions. Compare it to the BF-110 where the cockpit is nice and with good quality. The BF-109's doesn't have many animations. The sound of this plane should also be changed because the actual one is weak (especially inside). Also I noticed a bug with BI-6 plane where the wing engines work even without fuel.

The P-40 cockpit isn't too bad... yes the Bf109 one is pretty old and fairly awful in comparison. Now on the exterior the Bf109 was lovingly crafted while the P-40E/M has a number of extremely obvious errors which it'll be great to have corrected.

You know the Bf109 cockpit isn't too bad considering it's one of the oldest in the game along with the IL-2, Yak, and MiG-3.

By the way, wasn't Kittyhawk MK IA (P-40E) fitted with underwing bomb racks? The current model doesn't have them.

Many wartime pictures suggest that the use of small size bombs under the wings was widespread from the P-40F onwards. On the other hand, some references suggest that small bombs were used also by P-40s in the Phlippines campaign (1941) but it's not clear what version carried them as there were both P40B/Cs and P-40Es operating together (source: Bloody Shambles vol. 1 by C. Shores)

Will the new P-40 models have an improved DM?

Yes, they will. At least the 3D, texture and collision boxes are much more detailled.

Cheers !

Macwan.

14th. Air Force P 40s were often armed with the bazooka type rocket launcher, as seen on the P47 in IL2.

I tend to disagree. While Bf109 do have awful texturing (old style), the 3D shape of the P-40 cockpits, especially the canopy frames, is really wrong.
So in summary, P-40 cockpits are wrong, while Bf109 ones are only ugly.

Many people won't notice when something is wrong, for lack of expertise, but they will surely notice when something is ugly :)

That's quotable :) Both could use some tlc but super happy about the P-40 in general!

P-40 cockpit frames are wrong AND ugly.

So, no more one shot knocking out the engine or damaging all control surfaces

Normally, no more. The following parts are separated : engine body (cylinders), radiator, carburator, oil tank, fuel tanks (x3), control cables (x4).
To my opinion, the radiator and wings fuel tanks are the less protected parts.
The other parts are pretty secured and well protected, actually.

Macwan.

This is the best news about the new P-40 IMHO. The Hawk 81 and 87 were nothing if not robust aircraft. Their very successful use in the fighter-bomber role in every theatre they operated in stands in stark contrast to the insta-stop DM of the aircraft in the sim.

This Curtiss fan boy thanks you from the bottom of his 100/130 pumping heart.

That makes 2 of us :grin:.

~S~

Some additional ground attack options on the various P-40s would be great too. I know they had a variety of under wing and under fuselage configurations. I think some of the late models had Bazooka tube rocket launchers too?

Also found this great video just this morning...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=BNYuq67uf4E

Never seen RAAF operations before...nevermind RAAF P-40 ops.

There are references for various loadout combinations (fuselage and wing bombs, rockets) and they are likely be included ;)

Thanks Gitano, great news.

IceFire, I've seen that one before, it's tarted up a bit, but the action footage is very good indeed. Can you imagine flying an IL2 P40 with that much wing damage and making it home?

:eek:

Oh yeah it's total propaganda reel stuff but I enjoy it just the same :)

I can hardly imagine what kind of 2 hour flight that must have been like. They show the guy looking pretty good on film but I bet it was a different story when he actually landed. They likely filmed it sometime after... they'd probably have to pull me from the cockpit.

I'd radio ahead for a bottle or six of Scotch to be waiting on the ramp for me.

:cool:

What about the Bristol Bombay transport as an AI plane ? like in the 4.12 wishlist thread, The famous intercept in MTO was when JG 27 Bf1-09s shot down a Bristol Bombay of the RAF 216 squadron carrying a new appointed 8th army Commander.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...d=1#post447280

While we are making wishes for new aircraft, how about one the P-40 could use as a target... One that was based in the Solomons and New Guinea, and often on IJN capital ships?

I give you the Mitusbishi F1M "Pete".

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/4240/pete3.jpg

http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/5294/pete2q.jpg


http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/9257/f1m38.jpg

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/6403/petebase.jpg

An IJN seaplane base somewhere in New Guinea, as seen from an Allied recon plane... 1943 or 44.

Yes please...May we have a F1M Pete for Il-21946 ?? :)