No worry, happens to everyone from time to time.

But do post your impressive work in The virtual cockpit thread.

Artist

OMRON part numbers

Trigger: B3M-6009. http://www.omron.com/ecb/products/pdf/en-b3m.pdf

Buttons 2/3/4: B3FS-1002. http://www.components.omron.com/components/web/pdflib.nsf/0/7A04F73D25AF4A8785257201007DD542/$file/B3FS_1110.pdf

They are less than $1 per button. The problem you will run into is finding a distributer that will sell them in a small quantity, like 5-10. I don't need a 100-button bag.

Is there any way to make the sidewinder software work on Win 7 X64 now?

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Wow - I've been using these sticks for a dozen years and I completely forgot they originally came with software. Do you need something the software does? If so, what's that? I haven't ever used the software.

no :(

The software enables you to adjust return-to-center tension and feedback forces.

You can do this with FEdit (Force Feedback (efects) Editor) - include in MS DirectX 8.1 SDK - download here:

http://airwarfare.com/sow/index.php/...dback/41-fedit

If need map butons (of game GUI) use JoyToKey, SVMapper, XPadder...

Sokol1

I've tried FEDIT several times over the last years. But I failed to save any changes I made to the .ff files.

If you meant that Fedit did not save the changes into the .ffe - then check if you've got the right version (right click on the file, properties, version tab): There's one going around with version "1.0.0.1" which in fact does not save properly and another with Version "5.4.0.2904" which does work correctly.

Artist

Thanks for the info. I've spent 1 hour looking for the correct version on the web but failed. Could you please upload a copy to the forum?

Thank you, Artist! The program works like a charm!

Another question. How can I adjust the hardware dead zone of the stick?

I used to achieve this goal using DXTweak2. But it seems that the program is not compatible with X52, of which I use the throttle together with FFB2. And it doesn't save the dead zone settings.

I don't know what happen to the Screen shot's thread but can we have it back?
http://www.qmmv.info/12.jpg
http://www.qmmv.info/13.jpg
http://www.qmmv.info/14.jpg

Where can I find FEdit version 5?

Also has anyone managed to change the effect of firing the Mk108 in the 109 to something more manageable? I think it uses shake instead of auto cannon.

I actually doubt its existence - I just downloaded DX8.1 SDK, which still contains the V1 version.
Now, where could the V5 be? In DX9? DX10 or DX11?

Sorry for replying to an old thread, but this caught my eye. Did you figure out a way to get rid of the machine gun and cannon shakes without turning off the force feedback from a stall warning? How do I access the GUI?

Thanks,

Woke Up Dead

I guess(and/or hope) it works now the way it should, of course I can't compare.
http://www.rdox.info/01.jpghttp://www.rdox.info/02.jpghttp://www.rdox.info/8.jpghttp://www.rdox.info/04.jpg

Yeah that's a bummer.. I hope TD can do something about that.

I primarily use the stick forces... I dont use the full FFB because of that ALT+TAB thing.

Hey Crash you the same Crash with a lady named Jen? The one that sent me some switches a while back?

MSFFB2 Switches
 

Links courtesy of Troll2K

Trigger Omron B3M-6009 http://www.digikey.com/product-searc...omron+b3m-6009

Hat(4 pieces) Omron B3F-3122 (150g) http://www.digikey.com/scripts/DkSea...=0&y=0&cur=USD

Switches 2-4 Omron B3F-1002(150g) http://www.digikey.com/scripts/DkSea...=0&y=0&cur=USD

Base Omron B3F-1002(150g) http://www.digikey.com/scripts/DkSea...=0&y=0&cur=USD

Can you be more specific about the stick forces used and not the full FFB? I'm a new user of this type of joystick! Thanks!

Have a look at page one of the thread at force feedback editor :)

I have a FF2 with a stuffed power board. If anyone has a power board for within the stick, let me know.

I could sell the stick I have very cheap, or possibly buy the power board. Either way we save another stick.

Is it that board? If you know which voltage(s) it supplies, you could use an external power brick to replace it.
A laptop or other regulated power supply would do. Make sure it's regulated though, most wall warts deliver higher voltages than they're supposed to, with a very shaky quality as well.

OK thanks for that. I'll ask around. That's actually what I thought.

Does anyone know what voltage it supplies ? It must be standard with these boards.

add .ffe file
 

hello!

Thanks for showing-explain and share.

I just want to ask is possible to add new .ffe file. Im sure is not easy

Thanks!

It is often easier to improvise using parts from old Microsoft products than to find the 'official' replacement--open up that old USB controller or defunct wireless mouse and look for the parts that look familiar or similar.

I just fixed the bottom half of my POV hat by pulling one of the switches off of an old 8-button Microsoft game controller; I have also cannibalized the odd mouse for parts (although the reason one usually discards a mouse is because the left click button is worn out...).

cheers

horseback

For anyone interested in the electronics side of the FFB2, Roland van Roy has an excellent guide up on simprojects.nl

The PSU voltage is 24 volts, as it turns out.

Nice vid of his work

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcIpXSaVEa4

MSFFB2 Potentiometers
 

Can anyone give me a part number for the optical pots that are used in the MSFFB 2? What is the proper name of this type of potentiometer?

Thanks in advance.

FC

I recently bought a FFB2 off ebay and am using it with an X-52 throttle and Saitek pedals, but the stick is having some weird issues. It'll work normally the first time I run IL-2, but after a while the stick goes totally slack and only vibrates during stalls or weapon firing, but does not return to center. Sometimes when this happens pressing the main trigger will sharply center it, and while the trigger is pressed it seems like the force feedback is enabled, but it goes slack after depressed.

The stick will also sometimes work fine in Rise of Flight, but other times it will start to bounce when you pull it in any direction, like the sensors can't decide if it should center the stick or pull it in another direction. Is all this caused by driver issues, or did I just get a dud off ebay?

Clean the laser sensor holes top and bottom of the handle, on the inside,
you will see small holes that fill with skin and dirt from your hand.

When you place your hand on the handle the light should get brighter and dull when released, this tells you the sensor is working.











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The sensors should be clean, I've checked each time to make sure the light is brighter when I'm holding the stick, but I'll give them a cleaning just in case. Thanks for the help.

Have you re-calibrated it on your PC ?

I have, it didn't seem to make much of a difference. The stick has been behaving a little more normally recently, but it sometimes still cuts out, and I've had it cut out once when I pulled the trigger.

Good news
 

MSFFB2 Windows 8.1

No longer looses FFB when going to desktop and returning to the game.

wow
 

I had a Logitech force pro stick just go dead on me , and after looking for a replacement and not finding any with FF I ended up buying a new used sidewinder ff2 . WOW! What a difference ! I can actually aim now . I was hating my Logitech and the elevator function was fading out on it . The Sidewinder is so much better of a stick with much much more feedback it's amazing . I was getting tired of my sims with the old stick but now it's gotten interesting once again . Way more finesse and way more range in movement with this stick . Worth every penny of the 120 I paid for it .

Curious posting. Where do you buy a new Sidewinder FF2?
They haven't made them in about 10 years AFAIK.

I have one, and I've held onto and maintained it carefully all these years.

It would be indeed good news, if MSFT was making it again.

I have a CH Products package including the programmable keyboard. Never a problem, works great.
Still I love the SWFF2, because the pedals can be a nuisance. Just twisting the stick for rudder does make things easier.
You don't have the feel or immersion of flying, but that isn't that big a deal when the ole lady reminds you to quit... dinner is on the table.

Umm yeah that's why I said a new (to me) USED stick .If you re-read my post you'll see the word used beside new ;) Immersion level is fine for me , I really couldn't picture myself getting rudder pedals . The twist grip works well

Did I make any spelling mistakes?

Relax, this is forums for informal discussions.

What I said, or you said won't make the papers. :)

Enjoy!

Fixin My MSFFB2
 

So my FFB2 fell off my desk and now the stick does not work i still get the resistance but no in game control the throttle still works in game but nothing on the stick its self its only fallen once and theirs no external damage is it possible one of the boards inside it has been chipped or cracked?

Id like to keep this beast working for a longer time

Could be a loose connector. Only one way to find out - open it up.
There are manuals for that on the Internet.

Hi all,

I'm trying to fix up my poor neglected ffb2 stick, and I think the twist spring is broken on one side. The spring is straighter and seems slightly shorter on one side. I'm fairly sure it's engaged in the stick properly but the spring return only works in one direction.

Anyone out there have a spare, or know where I might track one down? I thought if someone had 'locked' their rudder twist they might still have the spring...

Any suggestions welcome!

Cheers.