Standard Layout / PAD
 

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Dear friends,

This message is directed at those of you who fly with the Standard Layout on the pad.

I tried all I could think of to replicate this layout in a custom layout, but unfortunately it just won't work. The problem is that when the rudder and throttle are assigned to the right stick, pushing down on the stick (R3 button) for free view and moving the stick up/down or left/right will not only give you free view, but will also move the throttle and/or rudder, something which clearly doesn't happen in Standard Layout.

Like I said, I tried all combinations I could think of. No success. It must be an oversight by the programmers not to allow a combination of buttons to cancel single button functions.

As a consequence, in my opinion, it is unfortunately totally useless to make a Standard Layout custom layout on the pad. What's the point of having an unwanted throttle/rudder input any time you want to look around - you just don't have control any more.

Just to save you the time, I also tried to assign the rudders to L2/R2 (the trigger-like buttons in front and down on the pad) in the hope that this would result in the same analogue fine control over the rudder, but found that this doesn't work since these buttons behave just like the digital L1/R1 buttons. Not analogue at all.

So, as I see it, you have a two choices:

1. continue flying with the Standard Layout. Of course this is possible, but you will have a big disadvantage when playing in Club rules. The P51 in this setting stalls much sooner and much more violently than with a customised setting.

2. take the hard road and change over custom aviator layout. I know this is a lot to ask having played with your usual layout for a long time. It is gonna be hard for some time, but well worth the work.

Clearly, I recommend you the second option. Here's why:

- airplane behaviour and response: much much better in custom aviator
- free view: in custom aviator you can always look freely and at the same time operate all controls
- rudder: while it's true that you don't have the same fine control over the rudder, you do have good control since even though L1/L2 are digital, the rudder input is quite slow and gradual. Similar effect as with analogue but timing is more important.
- other functions (fire/flaps/map/etc.): you can still assign them as is best for you.

Hope this makes sense and you can follow my logic. If you need any help with changing I'll be glad to assist.

Best,

MAC

In SIM I have been playing with the pad, custom layout 3.
It works ok, if you can do without rudder control.

some pics of p51

Our Club goes International!
 

http://www.33ff.com/flags/S_flags/flags_of_Italy.gif http://www.33ff.com/flags/S_flags/flags_of_Germany.gif http://www.33ff.com/flags/S_flags/flags_of_France.gif http://www.33ff.com/flags/S_flags/flags_of_Russia.gif http://www.33ff.com/flags/S_flags/flags_of_Spain.gif

Dear all,

Today I added links to Google translate to the first post of this thread. The translated languages are French, Russian, Spanish, German and Italian.
While the translations are not perfect, they seem mostly okay and I think this is a great way of bridging the language barrier.

If you want to join the club but don't speak English, or you have some comment or questions,
you can just reply on this thread in one of these languages.

Best,

MAC

Thanks buddy, nice pictures! Did you already do your custom setup?

See you soon!

MAC

:-P

yes i custome the settings for elevators,rudder in details and all of that in details as u say me,but i have a probs with the settings of control plane(pad)when i want to do it my blue ray game stop and my ps3 restart at the ps3 menu!don't know if i do a bad manipulation or if my ps3 start to be "tired"...i will retry and i will say u the results
great games last night "teacher" macademic!!!!!
see u soon ,good hunting and thanks a lot bud to translate in many languages,really very sympathetic!!

welcome "777",great night of fight last night with u , "teacher" mac,mage and brigg,really fun.
go,go normandie-niemen!!!lol

First time I hear of such a problem. There are a few things that behave strangely when you use a custom layout (like when you respawn you have a strange noise) but none of them make the PS3 crash as far as I know.

Please check again your settings and let me know if that problem continues.

MAC

One Step Closer to the Real Thing: No Map!
 

http://longstreet.typepad.com/thesci...s_german_2.jpg

NO MAP GAMES!

Last night we tried a variation of the game that brings us one step closer to the real thing: flying without using the map. We did one game as CTA with one airfield which worked very well, and a team battle in Britain where the mission objective was to defend Dover harbour. This also worked very well.

I found that never looking at the map but scanning the sky adds a lot to the immersive experience of 'being there'. Flying by look and see, and by 'lose the sight, lose the fight' is a thrill and closer to the real thing.

Now I think that games without using the map should remain Special Club games, not become a general rule. Most of the maps are just too large to find one another.

So here's two 'NO MAP' Special Club games that can be played without using the map:

1. ANY CTA WITH ONLY ONE AIRFIELD.

2. 'DEFEND LOCATION XYZ'. Any dogfight or teambattle with the special mission objective to defend a specified airspace. That means that the place of the action has to be clearly defined and easily recognizable, and that all pilots seek to defend the airspace there against the enemy. Suitable locations for a 'Defend location XYZA' Special Club game: Lake Lentini; Catania Airfield; Berlin Tempelhof Airfield; and, any single airfield CTA can be played as a 'Defend location XYZ' teambattle, meaning that no one is supposed to land and all the action is to take place in the sky only.

Before starting such a game, it is important that all players understand and agree that this game is a 'NO MAP' game and will not use their maps during the game. Only exception of course is when in respawning the map is displayed.

Hope we'll all have lots of fun with these new special games!

See you in the skies soon!

MAC

Well. Maybe its time to get back on and join in.

I like the Fox and Hound round. Cant wait to play!

Well you certainly have chosen the right nick on the BOP forum ;) !
Happy to welcome reaper1526 to the Club. Would you mind letting us know what you're using for your flight controls (Pad, Flight Stick,...) and what kind of setting (Standard/Aviator/Custom,...)?

Look forward to flying with you in the Club - FOX AND HOUNDS is plenty of fun, other games too!

MAC

I do! Cant help but love the 51.
I use the Thrustmaster stick on the Thrustmaster1 setting. I think ill at least spend an hour in Training mode perfecting the skills ill need!

Have you thought about a P-51 acrobatics team?

I forgot how bad SD is. You get so used to 720P :-x. In fairness my tv doesn't handle analogue too well, so the combination makes for some PS2-like draw distance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Y_ZrdcBTWs

Dover at morning/day plane just disappears into soup @ 1:56.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdXV1qz_7kw

Still messing around with it. Have to figure out why it's outputting the recordings at 4:3 when I'm sure everything is set to 16:9. The second vid suffers a bit from being compressed back to 16:9 as a result.

It would be awesome if everyone had an in-cockpit camera and you could could see the same dogfight from multiple perspectives. Maybe, since we can take pics in BoP we can record gameplay to youtube in the inevitable sequel.

Zaitochi how can you record movie while flying? Thanks

I connect my PS3 to my DVD Recorder via RCA, and then DVDR to TV as normal. You can't record in High-def using the HDMI with DVDR, unfortunately.

Thanks reaper1526. Yes, training, training, training is the key to mastering the wild horses! Aerobatics would fit and suit our club very nicely, been doing some formation flying but ready to do some more of that sort!

See you soon!

MAC

Great recordings tagemandbagem, I would like to host 'The Duell' between you and dbnk777 at your earliest convenience. Best would be in my opinion to have two P51s sorting it out 'at dawn' with you recording the thing. For reasons of fairness, since you'd be handicapped due to low res, I'd set up a clear weather daylight setting. Who first dies 5 times loses.

You'd then post the video here. Would be a very fine way of restoring the peace.

MACADEMIC

P.S: and yes it would be fantastic if everyone could record and we could then edit the best matches!

Well I'll be up for some formation flying/landing/taking off whenever im on!

Looking forward!

MAC

hello buds

just to present a design for the club,"teacher" mac know it but i want to present it to the others members.i don't do this pic(i m not able to do it!!lol!!)just add the text...

Olife,

Very very nice picture, many thanks!
With your permission, I put it on the first post of this thread. Looks fabulous!

See you soon,

MAC

Italian Soccer Girl had to go home...
 

Following Italy's demise yesterday sadly the lovely Italian soccer girl had to go home as well...some say it was her fault that the Azzurri didn't do that well this year.

Happy to announce we've found replacements. Hope this will make you happy, especially Mage.

;-)

MAC

wow i wouldnt mind borrowing them for a month

hello,

no probs,pleasure is mine!!!

thanks a lot "teacher"!!
very honored!

lol!!!!those replacement team have really a lot of qualities!!!!lol!!!!
i m the first supporter of "the bo-obs football"!!!!!
very nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What are you talking about? These are the official support girls of the 'P51 Mustang Purist Club' football team (massagists, cheerleaders, etc...)

;)

MAC

PS: Anyone manage to get beyond the picture and read about Aerial Football yet?

hehe!!for the " repose of the warriors "!!

Hello!

mita kuuluu kaveri?

my god! i m an "experte" of the finnish language!!LOOOOOL!!!!!
...i think i must try to speak the french correctly before to show off!!lol!!

good hunting great ace!!

New member dbnfk777
 

Proud to introduce our latest Mustang-Warrior to our Club: fukarei.

Welcome!

hi guys.. nice to meet you guys..

Nice to meet you too! :D

Update
 

1. AERIAL FOOTBALL

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Last night football season started for the P51 club.

Mirgervin, Vdomini, Briggboy, tagemandbagem, Mage016, o_life and I played the inaugural session of Aerial football. After sorting out most of the uncertainties about the rules (these soccer girls!), we got a great game on the way. Fun!

The more players, the better the game. Should you not be familar with the rules yet, you can find them here (warning: picture may cause you distraction!).


2. Special Club game: OTHER AIRPLANES

http://www.richard-seaman.com/Wallpa...shkosh2003.jpg

Later on we unsaddled our Mustangs and got into two Russian planes to see how they go with Club rules (except for the airplane type). We flew the I-16 and the Yak-3. It worked out well so we'll make a new Special Club game: OTHER AIRPLANES

While the Club should clearly remain focused on our beloved wild horses (if you can ride them, you can ride anything), testing our hard earned skills on other airplane types under Club rules will just add fun and experience.

The Special Club game can be played under three conditions:

1. only airplanes with cockpits are allowed
2. Club rules except for airplane type
3. all players have to fly the same airplane

All games as applicable can be played as this Special Club game.

See you all soon!

MAC

As predicted, Germany scores four. Take that Octopus Paul! :-P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3o4SlD7K-bE#t=6m15s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCx-R40jAyA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATyR4y54Pcg

Very nice tagem! This is twice the fun! Thanks!

MAC

PS: First game was not a club game as far as I remember (hence the HUD).

The Dogfight? That was just a normal game so Vdomini could kill us all in his Yak-3. :-P

Did the P-51 have luminescent cockpit instruments in real life? I could barely make out my artifical horizon half the time.

very coooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool videos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Congratulations and thanks

LOOL

Oh My God can hear me talking by phone with my wife on first video!! lol

Np, I'll try and get the other game up from the D5's perspective.

:-P The full dogfight is in the other video section. I didn't expect that .VOB file to upload so I just left it on uncut when it worked.

Tagem's videos
 

Is it just me or are the videos gone?

MAC

Sorry, just seems to be a bug of Safari, my browser. After restarting the browser the videos are back.

MAC

hellos guys

just to add a feminime touch for the club
here are miss june(too late i know...but for fun)and miss july
if u like it ,i will add 1 per month

good hunting guys

...and an old paper

Thank you olife!
 

Just too nice not to see those in full size...

;)

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/attachm...7&d=1278194753

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/attachm...8&d=1278194789

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/attachm...7&d=1278196383

Beautiful!! Great job Olife! And that magazine was great too.. :)

Great pics, Olife!

Anyone see this before? http://bombshellbeauties.com/ :eek:

hello guys

thanks a lot for those nice words,very sympathetic from u!!!!happy u like it!!
thanks a lot mac to add in full size

good hunting guys

Since when did they snap a shot of me in my I-16 dogfighting some Bosh bastards? :cool:

Disgrace!!!
 

AWww!!! Yesterday i've had such beautifull fight in club mode against the strong dbfk777, both on p51, using my hard tweaked custom layout, and i was quite happy about it because 51 flying smooth.

Then i went back into aviator settings and then back again in custom layout and.... ALL SETTINGS SADLY GONE!!! Hours of offline testing wasted....

Does anyone knows how to "work around" this problem? Or it's just happened to me? :evil:

Thanks

No problem for me switching forth and back between Custom and Aviator layouts! Maybe another bug is biting us again, this time perhaps an Italian kind?

I would recommend you this:

- Make a new custom layout (as much as you remember)
- Save your Game Data to a USB stick
- try switching forth and back with aviator again
- see if Custom is still there

If it has disappeared again, it's perhaps your system language Italian that causes the problems. In that case it's perhaps better to play the game with system language set to English. Once you copy the game data from the USB stick back to the PS3 you will have your Custom layout back.

Let me know how it goes please. Good luck!

MAC

Okay i will tryout what you told! Great advice! thanks ;)

That's very cute!

Wish we could custom our planes like this in 'The Sequel'.

:)

Hello Mac! Looks like i managed to restore
my sweet custom layout, now camera,
works, rudders are on l1 r1 and thrust
r2 l2, gear select but map button closer :)
Most importamt thing plane still stall but smoothly.

Hope this setting would last. i will use that
for club games.

Great! Sounds very similar to what I have. Did you have to change the system language?

MAC

no! It appears that now everything is working fine.

UHm, i have to be honest, while i was tweaking with layouts, i was reached my 6th beer... :rolleyes:

LOL!
:grin:

Question
 

Hello everybody,

The other day when we played Aerial Football, we noticed that the message 'Team A/B is capturing an airfield' didn't always come up for the 'football' following a successful landing. Does anyone understand why?

The message is important so the football can determine he has scored a goal and has to bail out.

I remember tagem suggested that it would be possible to substitute this message with the airfield symbol turning solid red/blue on the football's display. Could anyone verify this please (I am travelling at the moment and can't do this myself).

If it turns out correct, we'll change the rules accordingly!

Thanks in advance!

MAC

Howdo Mac,
I think this is sadly a bug. It seems to happen every now and again wherby it doesn't seem to register the touchdown even though your sat in the middle of the runway, similarly there are areas 'off' the airfield wherby it does 'tag' a landed player. Yet another chapter in the IL2 annoying quirks

hello bud

yes ,one of the last day i played capture airfield and land many times with my po2 ,the symbol red/blue appeared ,i stayed on the ground a sufficient time to have the credit of the capture but surprise no credit for the capture of the airfield!!!maybe a bug of connection....hope it will not disturbe the aerial football again and it was just a rarely connection prob...

Mac

Anything to do with hud off?

for me it was with the hud on and not in purist but in sim normal mode

Hmm...the funny thing was that when we played the game for the first time the message 'Team A/B is capturing an airfield' never appeared, but soon after the message 'Team A/B has captured an airfield' came up (which was unintentional, the football should never actually capture the airfield but bail out before that).

Thanks all for your inputs, let's keep investigating. Especially on tagem's suggestion if the colored airport symbol could give the football sufficient clue for knowing he has scored a goal. I think this might work.

MAC

Here it is from the P-51D's perspective:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQRN3hsyMSE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoHKA9c0cG0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AexxkZ2S9f4

I think everyone accidentally capped the airfield in all the matches.

Anyone Aerial Football tonight?
 

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_S0Gs6lA38l...rman-girls.jpg

WHO WILL JOIN US TO PLAY AERIAL FOOTBALL TONIGHT, WEDNESDAY 7 JULY AFTER THE FOOTBALL WORLD CUP SEMI FINAL GERMANY - SPAIN?

Come on guys, let's have some fun tonight!

Please note that there's a small change of rules in Aerial football to compensate for the glitch with the 'Team A/B is capturing an airfield' message. From now on, the football has scored a goal when he observes the airfield symbol on his normal display (not on the map!) turning a solid Red/Blue. He will then bail out and notify the goal via the chat (e.g. 'A score', or just 'A').

If you have time and feel like it, wax down your football shoes and join us! The more we are the better the game! Please take a minute to review the rules!

See you on the pit!

MAC

P.S.: Great videos tagem!

http://www.pressemeldungen.at/wp-con...terwaesche.jpg

Hello clubbers, i was thinking about something MAC said about some possibly extension of online games mode, and i've a new club game to propose, of course rules are not definitive and can be improved or changed if you got some idea. I'll try to explain.


Game name is: LAST PLANE STAND GAME

This game mechanic is quite simple, every player have only ONE attempt to shoot down enemy planes, like having just "one life", during a certain period of time, 10 minute could be fair enough.

If a player crash or get shoot down, he loose, no matter how kills he have scored.

If a player crash or get shoot down, he CAN NOT keep playng and HAVE TO leave the combat scene after respawning, flying far away and possibly land far away player still in game, so map with airfield, like berlin, could be highly advised to play this, every dead player can land on the same runaway and have a beer togheter while other still fight, avioding confusing them, awaiting in game the end of the fights.

The last plane still flying is the winner, no matter how many plane he's shoot down.

Every player should dive into combat, flying up and just wait everybody dies is not fair :mad:

Summing the rules:

1) respawn time 1 minute ( or more if supported )
2) Only one attempt. Once died, fly away combat scene and land.
3) Last plane still flying is the winner, no matter how many kills he scored.
4) Every plane that crash loose the game, no matter how many kills he scored.

Playing this in club rules could be fun and quick, we could try someday, let me now what you think!

take care! wach your 6!

Hi Vdomini!

Yes I remember I made a suggestion to the developers for the sequel (Last man standing), but much of the fun would be that you could stay in the game and watch as a 'ghost' with various perspectives on the remaining game and planes available, and unable to distract or take part in the action.

Maybe we could try something similar - to start with I would suggest a game for three players. The first who gets killed stays out of the action but can take up a viewing position nearby to watch how the remaining dogfight turns out. However he should only come near the action when the remaining players have already clearly engaged each other, this is when their red dots on the map have 'merged'. He should stay at good distance and above the dogfight and watch while making wide circles around. He really should avoid making any aggressive turns, descents, loops and so on in order not to confuse the active players.

It would then be the responsiblity of the active players to recognise a ghost as a ghost and not waste time trying to kill it, but to stay alive.

I'm not sure if this could work, but perhaps we'll try? If it works, we could think about increasing the number of players.

What do you think?

MAC

Dom's idea could work as a nomap game too. With a prearranged playground like the port of dover, berlin airfield etc. That way when you are landed near by you won't disturb other's and you'll see the action too.

By the way I would love to join you guys. I ordered new copy from amazon. Thanks for tip Mac.

Yeah, I agree with that. If people aren't involved and they're just flying about they'll be a distraction and if they just have to fly off the map they'll be somewhat bored. Although, when they are out of the game and are coming in to land they might cause a brief moment of confusion. Perhaps when someone is killed there should be an instant ceasefire until they have confirmed they have landed?

I think best way is to land and stay on the ground.

10 minutes are short, and unless you are very unlucky and crash very soon, you could have fun.

Also, the game timeout does not need to reach 0. If after 4 min everybody dies exept one player, the host can close the match. :cool:

agree with u too

hope u will have a new copy soon bud ace

great videos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
really good!!!

Last Man Standing, cont.
 

The landing thing brought me to another idea:

How about if anyone who's been killed has to drop landing gear and landing flaps and stay above and at a distance to watch? Or has the choice to land and watch should he prefer? And any active player will not drop landing gear?

An airplane with landing gear and landing flaps would be very easy to spot as a 'ghost'. I could imagine this working, even for a large number of players.

As Mage said it might make sense to center such a game around a known location as in the NO MAP games.

Comments?

MAC

P.S.: Mage hope you will join us soon!

For me a plane flying is just a distraction. Ghost player HAVE to land as soon as they respawn and wait.

When i open the map during fight, moving red spots distract me, so, in my opinion ghost red point on map have to be steady.

Also, i can see a plane with landing gear down and flaps ONLY when i come close to it, with the risk to waste time chasing a ghost.

To make this game work, ghost player have to land as soon ad the respawn, and leave the skybox clear ASAP.

Also, i think using map in this game will help. Whole game will end quicker so ghost player didn't have to wait too long.

hello guys

hope all is good for u
yesterday night was a great night of dogfight...and a greaf night of crashs for me!!lol!!!but it was funny and very good!!thanks to all of u guys!!!
hope see u in the bop skies very soon !!

OLIFE SAN ,721 ku squadron imperial jap navy (kamikaze squadron !!lol!!)happy sushi!!!

Okay, it was worth a try but I also found it didn't make much sense to fly around with gear and flaps down. Takes too long to get to the action and see anything...it got a bit boring to be a ghost. So my suggestion is we'll give it another try and follow Vdo's idea to make all ghosts land and stay on the ground. Best setting would be a single runway CTA (e.g. Catania) with maximum tickets.

Perhaps we can try tonight.

MAC

Yes, OLIFE SAN, great games yesterday! Good flying!

MAC

thanks teacher!!u too!!!!!!!!!!!!

for the story the 721 ku kamikaze squadron was born in october 1944 at konoik air base in japan
the 721 ku pilots realised a suicide attacks at okinawa with the a6m zero fighters and the jet human bombs ohka.

I don't think it should be played in CTA mode at all. You spawn right next to your teammate making it a quick kill, and before everyone knows it the game is practically over. We should just do what we did at the start; play in dogfight mode, everyone makes their way to the airfield, and no one engages until they are over it.

:grin: Well, the inevitable sequel should have a pacific campagin, according to Anton, so we should have a kamikaze squadron soon enough!

:grin: Well, the inevitable sequel should have a pacific campagin, according to Anton, so we should have a kamikaze squadron soon enough![/QUOTE]

i m sure i will be a very good kamikaze pilot!!!!i must be the " crash recordman "!!lol

We will show no mercy to our enemies.

Kamikazeeeee squaaaaaad! Attack!

http://i27.tinypic.com/mlrple.jpg

hehe yes!!!!!!!!lolllbanzai!!!!

nice movie of seppuku!!!!!!!

Right tagem, I remember shooting you down 5 seconds after game start. Sorry, I forgot. Of course you are correct.

So, another try to make 'Last Man Standing' work. Dogfight, Location Sicily the coast, no time limit, Airspace Catania Airfield and all to the South (Non-Combat Zone) reserved for Ghosts and non-hostile maneuvering. Active Combat Action only allowed to the North, excluding the airfield (i.e. Combat Zone)

At game start, all planes move to the Combat Zone to engage. Once arrived at the Combat Zone, active players are not allowed to leave it. Once shot down or crashing, aircraft have to leave Combat Zone immediately after respawning and land at Catania airport. (Alternately I could imagine to allow practice landings or dogfighting for Ghosts in the Non-Combat Zone, but always staying clear of the Combat Zone).

Winner is last man standing.

Could be played as NO MAP game as well (which would make it more interesting in my opinion).

Opinions? Sorry can't play for the next couple of days since I'm travelling. Hope you can, let me know how it's going.

Cheers,

MAC

I only really noticed it in our last game when Olife kept spawning right in front of me. I think the only way for the ghost spectating to work is if we all have more than one life before we are eliminated. Those games we played were over pretty quickly, although, that was only with four people.

I think no map in this mode is the most fun. Especially since we already know the general area where everyone is going to be located. This is how the mini-map should have worked from the beginning.

I haven't turned on my PS3 since thursday...it is incredibly humid here and I'm not sure the old girl could handle being powered up.

Some news about Custom Layouts
 

Hello all,

News about Custom Layouts:

A very useful discovery is that in fact it's possible to change the Controls and Custom Layouts during a game. When going to Pause/Menu while in game, you can press the Square button to get to the Layout/Custom Layout Menu and take it from there. When connected with headsets in a dogfight, this way it's very easy to help someone else doing the Custom Layout by talking them through. I'd encourage all Club members to give others a hand who want to benefit from having a Custom Layout.

Best,

MAC

Welcome new Club Member tommykocher
 

Very pleased to welcome the second German speaking member (besides myself) in our Club: tommykocher

Herzlich Willkommen!

MAC

gutten tag tommy and welcome
sorry my german is totally very bad even if i learned it at school(learn german or sleep during the german lessons,mmmm....the crab "olife" choose to sleep...please god save france!lol!!)
very happy to have u in the club tommy
see u guys

hello
pin up club

miss august is now here

...and again, with your kind permission. Thanks, MAC.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/attachm...5&d=1279972639

thanks a lot teacher mac
again u help me!!

Olife, please help firepilote!
 

Dear Olife San,

Could you please help firepilote do his Custom Layout? He told me today he can't fly the Mustang with Aviator and full sensitivity. It's actually quite easy since you both have mics and it can be done while you both are in dogfight mode. You could talk him through how he needs to set his controls.

Thank you in advance!

Best,

MAC

olife
Great pinup. Thanks, you got any pics from finnish customized mörkö-moranes (beast-morane)? Tag was ms-4xx I think.

Nice one, Olife!

I've never seen a woman so happy to see a fighter plane. :-P

no probs teacher,i will do it today by psn message

great fly this night,thanks for lessons!!!!

hello bud
thanks a lot
i haven't morko morane bud,if u have one send me it please

hello bud
thanks a lot

lol!!i want her for wife!!!!!!!

hey guys :)
 

Great club you got going here macademic. Care if I join? Its being a while so take it easy on me guys :)

Hello edal, really nice to see you! It will be a real pleasure to go against and with you again.

Welcome to club!

Mage

Hey Edal, welcome back! It's an honour to have you in our ranks. Thanks for joining and see you soon!

MAC

P.S.: What do you fly with, stick or pad, and if pad, what layout?

Welcome back! You be sticking around for other things aswell?