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jake21 04-15-2013 02:39 PM

betrayed isnt' really the word I would use... I think disappointed would be better way to express it. Disappointed because it was not as good (much less an improvement) but also disappointed because it is probably the last incarnation.

Hochopepa 04-15-2013 05:27 PM

Expected much better (improved) game.
It's definitely time for "King's Bounty II"
I will stick to the AP/CW in meantime.

kbounty1 04-17-2013 04:08 AM

[QUOTE=F-kid;501165]"Agreed.

Despite my disappointment with the game, I can't deny that it's still very addictive."
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Addictive indeed. And high replayability value. Just enjoyed Crossworlds campaign again (on impossible).

My favorite game was Heroes M&M 3, then it lost his "magic". Now it is King Bounty, it succeeded brillantly in capturing the Magic from the old New Wolrd Computing games with colorful graphics and great design.

A though while playing my campaign : a race (units) that would desserve maybe more attention is the Pirates. I'd love to see a full Pirates race with lvl 4/5 units.. wooden leg, eye patch, parrot.. and rhum!
From Tortuga bay to Dead Chest island. From Long Jhon Silver to Blackbeard.. there is so much materials, myths and legends (enjoyably already present in the game) that would fill very well a full KB story. Just an idea.

Perhaps a theme for a future KB game.

KB:WOTN release was clearly not polished and way too rushed.
But i dont feel the devs should re-invent the wheel. KB is good as it is. I'd just like a new adventure (islands/dungeons) theme and additional units.
Take ALL the units from the KB serie into a huge new adventure, that would be great.

Darkeonz 05-01-2013 08:26 AM

I have 2 big complaints about this game

One is that a huge part of it is reused maps from Legend. I was hoping for completely new lands to explore, and probably a lot more new units then what is in it.

the other one is the fact that randomization of the game seems a lot less then in crossworlds. It really REALLY kills the replay value of the game. I know I'm going to start out on 4 islands where I can get the same old vikings and nothing else. Also I agree. The flying horse makes it really easy even on the hardest. I almost wish flying horses wern't a part of the game. You can basically loot any map completely before fighting anyone. The good thing about crossworlds is the fact that you get the flying horse late in the game, so you have to fight a ton to get to that level.

hippo 05-02-2013 06:00 AM

I hope developers are working now on King's Bounty 3 with new lands, units, new engine etc.
Please devs leave alone Legend, Armored Princess, Crossworlds and WotN and create a NEW adventure.

F-kid 05-03-2013 03:10 PM

After a long while I finished the game. All I can say is that by the end I was struggling to keep playing, so boring and just countless easy battles one after another.

Last boss was a joke compared to any of the bosses in AP/CW, beat him with absolutely no effort.

I agree with the poster above me. Forget this game and concentrate your efforts on something new, and please don't release it until it's really finished.

Anti-global 06-01-2013 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by F-kid (Post 500711)
What happened on the development of this game?

I was expecting an epic game just like its ancestors, but I get more and more disappointed as I play.

I haven't finished the game yet (currently at level 52), but I can list MANY things that should have improved or at least kept the same way.

Minor spoilers below:

1- Crashes: As I do with most games, I waited a few months after the release, so the patches would correct almost every bug. I was mistaken, this game crashes A LOT, specially on big battles. Quite annoying having to start a massive/boss battle over and hope for the game not to crash again.

2- Difficulty: As with the other games from the series, I played on impossible. The challenge is fine until the big spider. After that, I get so much land to explore and collect leadership and money that everything gets easy. I remember that in AP I had a very hard time choosing which battle I should fight first, they were all classified as "deadly" or "invincible. In WotN I arrive at a new area and I get surprisingly easy battles almost every time. I also get to fly too early in the game, making it even easier to kite enemies and collect treasures behind them.

3- Money: too easy to get and too useless as well. I got over 6 million and nothing to buy. The things I do want can't be found anywhere in the game so far, such as some scrolls or set items.

4- Quests: mosts quests in this game are boring and pointless. Tons of uninteresting text that in 95% of the cases are absolutely useless. Quests rewarding ridiculously low. Getting 3000 gold as a reward for a quest that you complete at level 40+ is completely nonsense.

5- Quest items: I remember that in CW many of the quest items had a use apart from the quest itself, like trying myself some potion that is to be delivered and getting some bonuses for it. Now I don't even bother what they are, and consider all as a package that has to be delivered.

6- Balance: As soon as I got past the big spiders, I got myself an army of knights, paladins, archmages, rune mages and inquisitors. Never had to change my army. Right before the castle in greenworth became unavailable I also purchased every unit to keep these stacks in reserve (after all gold is so abundant that it wasn't even 20% of what I had). The enemy armies are also too weak at certain areas that just opened.

7- Bosses: The big spider AGAIN? Come on 1C, you should be good at creating boss battles. I saw 3 bosses so far (ONLY 3!! And I'm at level 52!) and 2 of them are from other games.

8- Enemy rating: anything rated strong/very strong/deadly/invincible should actually be challenging. My army can often manage deadly/invincible fights (even with an enemy hero) without losses on the first try. It doesn't seem right. Don't use the words "impossible" and "invincible" if the game doesn't even come close to that.

9- Achievements and titles: achievements should be given upon challenges that are an addition to the game, such as winning 100 consecutive battles without losses or getting all medals to level 3. Killing a demon that is mandatory (and not challenging at all) for the story and being awarded a title (for what?) and an achievement for that seems a little too much.

10- Power ups: not only the enemies are too easy, there are countless power ups to improve your army even more: talents, songs, valkyrie passives, valkyrie pre-combat abilities, pre-combat scrolls, criticals, medal bonuses. The impossible difficulty setting should have an impact on those.

11- Graphics: As far as I noticed, the graphics are exactly the same since the Legend. Not that I really care for that, it's the least significant of all issues from this game, but it would be nice to play something that doesn't look like just an add-on to a previous game.

That's probably enough for now. I hope that 1C takes these critics as a positive thing and use it on the next king's bounty. I got disappointed with this one but I think that 1C can and will make a better job in the future.

And don't forget the patches for WotN, there are still plenty issues to be fixed.


I agree.

And, personally, Armored Princess is the best King's Bounty game.

Totoro 06-01-2013 12:56 PM

I disagree with points 1, 2, 3, 6 and 10

I started a new game about two weeks ago. Now played 70 hours. I haven't experienced a single crash.

I'm playing on Impossible and I find the game quite challenging also after the big spider and I'm not playing 100% no-loss. I actually have to think what I'm doing and what monsters to face. Maybe you are just too skillful players for this game. According to Steam statistics, only 0,9% of players have finished this game on Impossible difficulty. So I believe that for majority of players the difficulty is just fine even though they don't let anyone know about that on these forums.

Also, of course you muster big piles of gold when you never lose any troops. But if you're not so skillful player and you buy all the equipment, you're going to need that gold.

Also, I think the constant power-ups are the salt of this game. I find improving my capabilities very interesting.

DGDobrev 06-02-2013 07:55 AM

I am still lurking on the forums, waiting to see an update, but there has been none for quite a while... And I don't really like what people post :(

Totoro 06-02-2013 08:49 AM

I don't think there are going to be anymore updates. And I don't think they are even necessary. The game is very enjoyable now as it is.


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