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IvanK 11-04-2012 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ataros (Post 477232)
VAC is a server side setting. Recently servers started to use it.

However VAC needs correct definitions to catch cheats. Please if you are concerned about cheaters and VAC contact Steam and inform them of some methods of changing game files (e.g. send them files from the mod section of the forums). If you did not inform Steam I am sure they will not be looking for CloD cheaters themselves. This is how Punkbuster works too: players report cheats to them and they add them to DB.

No point to post about VAC here IMO.

So how do you know if a sever is running VAC ? How does a server set up VAC to run ?

David198502 11-04-2012 09:12 AM

when i looked in the conf.ini file to see whether i could get rid of the visibility-disappearing-bug, i saw that there is a line VAC=1

maybe thats how they do it?
but again thats strange, as it is set to 1 by default ever since,....and people were/are cheating online...

major_setback 11-04-2012 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by David198502 (Post 477238)

but on the other hand,...ive seen some threads, which refer to very good pilots and the suspicion of cheating....fact is, there are aces out there who will kill you within seconds, too fast that you realise what your mistake was...

Yes. I haven't played CoD online yet, but I used to play FB/1946 online a lot. I never cheated, but was accused of it many times. If you play well, keep up your speed and energy and use height to build up power and have a good eye for a shot you can easily be called a cheat. People should be careful before they accuse someone of it. It is very unpleasant to be on the receiving end of such an accusation.

David198502 11-04-2012 09:21 AM

yeah ive been accused of cheating as well many times already in cliffs of dover...
its really unpleasant, as you cant really prove your victims wrong...especially when cheating is possible...

Steuben 11-04-2012 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by David198502 (Post 477226)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68C1GoAH2gc


read the comments as well


btw,....this cheat, and no problem to get to altitude????and the devs do not manage it?

Exactly what i thought when i saw this!

tintifaxl 11-04-2012 09:30 AM

Looks like online play takes a hit, too. That's what I don't like about competitive online play - the cheaters turn up. And you can hardly, if ever catch the cautious ones, who only cheat very subtly.

notafinger! 11-04-2012 10:26 AM

For such a tiny community I highly doubt that anybody is cheating. The regulars who play often know what is possible and what is not. Part of the problem is most of the people who are accusing only fly the aircraft for one side, so they do not understand the capabilities of their opponents machines. Any multiplayer game there are people who will push the game to the absolute limit of what is possible, far beyond the understand or ability of the average player.

Also, I have played multiplayer games on Steam for a long time now and besides games developed by Valve (CS, TF2, L4D, etc..) I have not seen any indication that VAC is effective whatsoever. Red Orchestra had a small community and VAC enabled servers but nobody was ever caught by VAC even though we had known cheaters who were caught in competitive play by watching their demos. Even Valve games, where VAC should work, still aren't 100% protected. I played on a competitive TF2 team in several leagues and little did any of us know that our sniper was cheating. Not until after he head shot several cloaked spies in a match was he caught by the community, not VAC.

Anyway, there is like less than 200 players actively playing this game online. Cheating is not a problem currently but ignorance is.

Robo. 11-04-2012 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by notafinger! (Post 477267)
For such a tiny community I highly doubt that anybody is cheating. The regulars who play often know what is possible and what is not. Part of the problem is most of the people who are accusing only fly the aircraft for one side, so they do not understand the capabilities of their opponents machines. Any multiplayer game there are people who will push the game to the absolute limit of what is possible, far beyond the understand or ability of the average player.

Also, I have played multiplayer games on Steam for a long time now and besides games developed by Valve (CS, TF2, L4D, etc..) I have not seen any indication that VAC is effective whatsoever. Red Orchestra had a small community and VAC enabled servers but nobody was ever caught by VAC even though we had known cheaters who were caught in competitive play by watching their demos. Even Valve games, where VAC should work, still aren't 100% protected. I played on a competitive TF2 team in several leagues and little did any of us know that our sniper was cheating. Not until after he head shot several cloaked spies in a match was he caught by the community, not VAC.

Anyway, there is like less than 200 players actively playing this game online. Cheating is not a problem currently but ignorance is.

Well said mate.

vranac 11-04-2012 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notafinger! (Post 477267)
For such a tiny community I highly doubt that anybody is cheating. The regulars who play often know what is possible and what is not. Part of the problem is most of the people who are accusing only fly the aircraft for one side, so they do not understand the capabilities of their opponents machines. Any multiplayer game there are people who will push the game to the absolute limit of what is possible, far beyond the understand or ability of the average player.

Also, I have played multiplayer games on Steam for a long time now and besides games developed by Valve (CS, TF2, L4D, etc..) I have not seen any indication that VAC is effective whatsoever. Red Orchestra had a small community and VAC enabled servers but nobody was ever caught by VAC even though we had known cheaters who were caught in competitive play by watching their demos. Even Valve games, where VAC should work, still aren't 100% protected. I played on a competitive TF2 team in several leagues and little did any of us know that our sniper was cheating. Not until after he head shot several cloaked spies in a match was he caught by the community, not VAC.

Anyway, there is like less than 200 players actively playing this game online. Cheating is not a problem currently but ignorance is.

+1

I never saw any cheating online.
Only thing I saw is the plane I was following start to go unrealistically faster and that is because disconnection from the server or the game crashed.

Ataros 11-04-2012 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by IvanK (Post 477241)
So how do you know if a sever is running VAC ? How does a server set up VAC to run ?

It is set in confs.ini with VAC=1 line.

When you click on a server in server browser on the right hand you see server information. One line reads as "security" (in RU version at least) if server has VAC on.

Quote:

Originally Posted by David198502 (Post 477243)
but again thats strange, as it is set to 1 by default ever since,....and people were/are cheating online...

I have not seen any cheating. I think these are just pure rumors spread by people who do not fly every day for 3-5 hours and are shot down by those who do.

If VAC is not working properly and you see any cheating please contact Steam VAC team and ask them to address the issue.


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