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jameson 03-05-2012 11:42 PM

Fatcat aka FC99 here is a member of TD. He said on 12th Feb. 2012.

"There will be some changes regarding MW50 in 4.11.1 "

Which we all hope will be with us shortly. Read the thread 4.11 and overheat, page 2, post #15.

jermin 03-06-2012 12:56 AM

LOL. Oleg built this entire game using what you called cut and paste data.

It sounds as if you have worked on WW2 German fighters for a long time and is a real expert on MW-50 boost system who dare to question historical facts.

I'd like to see some non-cut-and-paste test result from you to prove the historical data was wrong instead of those sour words.

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jameson 03-06-2012 04:20 AM

If you flew 2x 10 mins @110% with mw50, total flight time would be about 35mins. I rest my case.

jermin 03-06-2012 04:45 AM

I fail to see the logic here. Please explain.

I'm still waiting for your evidence.

jameson 03-06-2012 05:43 AM

That you fail to see the logic, makes this exercise a bit pointless really.

Shardur 03-06-2012 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jameson (Post 396934)
If you flew 2x 10 mins @110% with mw50, total flight time would be about 35mins. I rest my case.

Poor combat range of the German fighters is a well known fact. However if you are intercepting enemy formations over your own territory 35min of flight time is enough. Nobody says you have to use full engine power for 20min (2x 10min) and if you need more range you shouldn't, but it was historically possible to do so therefore there is no reason why it shouldn't be possible in the game.

Upthair 03-07-2012 11:15 AM

Someone was trying to behave like a really highly intelligent guy.

HundertneunGustav 03-09-2012 10:50 AM

flying by the numbers. by the goddamn numbers, and down to the last percentage and second. The numbers, the holy Data.
Thats what FSX is made for...
f'n ell!!

IL2 1946 4.11 (+mods? dare i say?) is a piece of art, so give some tolerance for artistic licence.
The Pilots back then didnt fly be the numbers either.
ridiculous.

WTE_Galway 03-10-2012 03:09 AM

MW50 is not a magic cure all, it just made up for low octane fuel allowing more power with poor fuels.

How people got the idea it was some magical effect that allowed the pilot ten minutes of totally trashing the engine without damage is beyond me.

If your behaviour is bad for the engine without MW50 engaged such behaviour will be as bad or worse for it with the extra power MW50 provided.

The way some people talk you should be able to park a bf109 with chocks on the ground, run the engine up to full throttle and engage mw50 and then expect the engine to last ten minutes because the "book" said that was the maximum time for mw50.

Sillyness.

Whacker 03-10-2012 03:45 AM

Here's another idea. How about we try to take all the emotion and armchair mechanicness out of this and try and find some actual sources of data?

I started looking and found this link from the wikipedia DB601 entry: http://www.scribd.com/doc/71362812/1...r-DB-601-A-u-B

Can any of our german speaking friends lese through this bitte and then reporten zu backen hier was ist gesayin ist? :cool:


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