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Rambo Rich 360 04-15-2011 06:49 PM

Hope they come out with a demo to check it out first. Sounds like it may be interesting...

KAV 04-16-2011 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Slothboy (Post 263048)
Well, the ground units have a lot better detail than BOP, that's for sure. Everything else looks pretty cartoon-y. They also seem to feature bombers heavily. Which might be cool.

Sorry to disagree with you. The way the soldiers blow up in pink pool of blood, made laugh out loud.
The year is 2011 and we are past the Wolfenstein bloodsplash of the 90´s.

Dementia_Seven 04-17-2011 11:52 PM

lol ... i`watshed the trailer and it was like i said. good pictures but in movement you see that its an arcarde game like the heros over europe and so on... i hope something like a simulator is in there... otherwise it will not kick il2. lets wait for the demo...

AND BY THE WAY!!! THESE PROGRAMMERS OVERRATE EVERYTHING BUT NOT THE BF109. WHERE ARE BOMBS? WHAT IS WRONG WITH GERMAN AIRFRAMES???

Gilly 04-18-2011 08:50 AM

Totally agree that it's no IL2 sadly. I would hope though that a little competition in the marketplace will mean that at least an IL2 sequel may be considered for consoles. And yes I know what Anton said in his interview but that was about as convincing as Gaddaffi is currently being.

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Originally Posted by Dementia_Seven (Post 266371)

AND BY THE WAY!!! THESE PROGRAMMERS OVERRATE EVERYTHING BUT NOT THE BF109. WHERE ARE BOMBS? WHAT IS WRONG WITH GERMAN AIRFRAMES???

Why? Because the sad fact is that history is always written by the victor. Harsh perhaps, but sadly that's the way it is! Anyone with half an ounce of intelligence knows that these things tend to be biased. IL2M/ IL10's for example!!!!

PS: SHOUTY CAPS not needed as these convey an aggressive attitude

Dementia_Seven 04-19-2011 12:43 AM

jojojo bro but i suffer under the shitty overrating of allyplanes cause the german airframes like fw190 me262 bf109 where absolutly top on thier appearing times and nothing competetive could be put in the air by the allys.
its so sad the the constructors are hornored that way... they made the best airplanes during ww2

and by the way youre right with the il 10 and so on... i read the russians also did inflated the kills against germany by 500%!!!

so thats overrated ^^

Cryptic Phant0m 04-19-2011 03:02 PM

*Sigh* The only Flight-Sim that I have found that portrayed Luftwaffe fighters pretty accurately is the original "WarBirds" on the Mac and PC.

Though, I have never played IL on the PC, so I don't really know how they portrayed the axis planes in that game.

If this game is good and thats a BIG if, I just hope they portray the planes fairly accurate.

Off Topic:

I really miss WarBirds, that was a great game, you could blow chunks off planes and still fly them...err...ride them to the ground. (Inside the Cockpit!!!)

bobbysocks 04-19-2011 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dementia_Seven (Post 267535)
jojojo bro but i suffer under the shitty overrating of allyplanes cause the german airframes like fw190 me262 bf109 where absolutly top on thier appearing times and nothing competetive could be put in the air by the allys.
its so sad the the constructors are hornored that way... they made the best airplanes during ww2

and by the way youre right with the il 10 and so on... i read the russians also did inflated the kills against germany by 500%!!!

so thats overrated ^^

just what allied planes are overrated? in this game the best all around crate is the 109 series with the G6 probably being the best. the earlier emils, friedrichs, and gustovs lacked the guns but there are few things that will out turn a F or a G2. the P 51 which could go toe to toe with them in real life flies like a brick, the 47 is a little better but lacks the speed and turning ability. the B17 is the best US aircraft in this game! for the uk ac...the hurri flies slightly faster than a cessna 150 but is a buzz saw with all its guns and the spit series perfrom great ( but not traumatically better than a 109 ) once you learn how not to spin out. the yaks fly well but lack the guns. the Il series are basically bullit proof....so that one i will hand you. but the 153 is slow and the I-16 is spin cycle with wings. for the LW ac, the 190/152 series handles absurdly but not any worse than the 51s. the 262 is fast, has guns, but the turn radius of the moon. the 163 is actually a good dogfighter where it wasnt in real life and the 162 isnt that bad either. both of those perfrom better than they did in real life. the 110 did well in the BoB but after that was pretty much eaten alive by the raf. if anything the LW planes here are top dogs and other ac are underrated. you are correct in saying the 109s and 190s in real life when they came out were superior to everything but within a few years ( by 1942 ) the LW had to play catch up modding them to compete with raf and us crates. so if you are having a hard time being competitive with a 109 in here its not the plane. the plane will out fly you and me...

Dementia_Seven 04-19-2011 08:16 PM

he bobby, its right what u say.
i mean the LWplanes did not have the right original weaponarys to choose like bombs or rockets. first underrating

i was flying bf 109s everytime and in much fights. since a few days i juse spitfires and i see a pretty much difference. u need just a burst to destroy a target or demage it so much to easiely engage it. i read somewhere of laserbullets, thats an accurate discription. and the turns are... just so sharp!
since i can control spitfire with my expirience of 109 i have the feeling that the spits did have double as much performence skills...second underrating

the rocket and me 262 is ok but they shall not be compareable with realety

one example, too?
one la7 and il10 in team a did beat us 5 pilots in spits bf s etc. so easily, that was a joke. russian planes where dominateing even outnumbered and we had defenetly the better pilots. and another game was one il10 against seve 109 k4s and it was a desaster to the 109s.

ah forget it back to the topic... ^^

uh ih uh ah ah :-)

bobbysocks 04-19-2011 08:26 PM

i agree with you there, D7! it would be nice to have the R4m rockets on the 262 and some other goodies as well... :grin:

Gilly 04-19-2011 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbysocks (Post 268290)
i agree with you there, D7! it would be nice to have the R4m rockets on the 262 and some other goodies as well... :grin:

Goodies...we like 'goodies'
http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/a...l/348cf5ae.jpg
not these kind though (one for the 70's brits!!)
http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/a...l/333f1ed9.jpg


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