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Cryptic Phant0m 04-11-2011 01:45 PM

lol,:-P I know that the Fw-190 can not compete against Spits in BOP, I was just wondering about the real planes.

I just hope that in the "Sequel" that the planes will be more realistically portrayed *cough "P-51D" *cough:grin:

Cryptic Phant0m 04-11-2011 02:48 PM

Yes, but unfortunately even Sim has Radar on the Map display. So you can not have any form of surprise advantage unless the person is not looking around.

Robotic Pope 04-11-2011 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Cryptic Phant0m (Post 260155)
Yes, but unfortunately even Sim has Radar on the Map display. So you can not have any form of surprise advantage unless the person is not looking around.

Yeah that was his point. If you were able to force map dots off, Speed and firepower would then become the most important factor instead of turn rates. The game would be much less active though and man would your eyes be tired after all that sky scaning.

SEE 04-13-2011 04:18 PM

The better of the two depends on the pilot and who had height advantage. If a FW missed his prey in his initial dive then the Spit pilot could count himself very fortunate and not be suckered in trying to follow him in that dive. That FW will distance itself, use its energy to gain height rapidly and attempt another altitude bounce. The FW is a bird of prey and in the right hands (with altitude advantage) a reall killer with awesome capability!

Robotic Pope 04-13-2011 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SEE (Post 262067)
The better of the two depends on the pilot and who had height advantage. If a FW missed his prey in his initial dive then the Spit pilot could count himself very fortunate and not be suckered in trying to follow him in that dive. That FW will distance itself, use its energy to gain height rapidly and attempt another altitude bounce. The FW is a bird of prey and in the right hands (with altitude advantage) a reall killer with awesome capability!

That's what should happen.

In BoP though half the time the spitfire will be able to turn around and follow the 190, quickly accelerate with WEP to match its speed an then as soon as the 190 trys to climb again he's dead thanks to the unbelieveable climb rate of the spitfire and the laser bullets.
I think you know who the pilot of the Spitfire is ;)

bobbysocks 04-13-2011 06:56 PM

the only one you might get away with that is the Ta...which is an Fw but not and Fw. i took one last night just to mess around and had a spit chase me for 10+ minutes all over britian. was kind of funny. i had taken just enough damage i could stay ahead of him but not enough to get the room to turn back for a head on. some of the advantages the real ac are not evident in the game...and thats too bad really.

SEE 04-13-2011 09:16 PM

All ac performance in BOP are exaggerated and there is little point in using the correct tactics or making any worthwhile comparisons. For any sense of realistic modelling you need a PC with IL1946 installed, the latest patch, a very watchfull eye, lots of altitude and weave constantly if there are FW's about.........:grin:

Cryptic Phant0m 04-13-2011 09:21 PM

Aahhh, I love the Ta-152:grin: the updated Fw 190.

Fast in and Fast out.

With that baby I like to dive from 75 degree angle, pull a few rounds off and climb back up to its loft perch.:grin:

In reality though err that is BOP reality, the Ta 152 handles like a Tugboat while its fast like a speed boat, even when its at its proper flight ceiling.

Excuse the boat terms.

Robotic Pope 04-14-2011 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by SEE (Post 262272)
All ac performance in BOP are exaggerated and there is little point in using the correct tactics or making any worthwhile comparisons. For any sense of realistic modelling you need a PC with IL1946 installed, the latest patch, a very watchfull eye, lots of altitude and weave constantly if there are FW's about.........:grin:

I'm sure we have had this conversation before on here lol, I get some big deja vu.

I was playing 1946 tonight doing a USAAF campaign on full realistic. Damn those Zeros come out of nowhere and my P40 has absolutely no climbing ability and stalls the instant I try to follow a zero in a turn. Its fun :)


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