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philip.ed 02-26-2011 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Zappatime (Post 228837)
I recall one of the veterans in the recent 70th anniversay programmes saying that 'dropping in the drink' you only had a few minutes survival time due to the cold waters, unless you were near a passing boat you'd very little chance as loss of feeling in your limbs was rapid.

Yes, very true. Kit improvements helped this later on, but in the BoB, the RAF were not really prepared for such enventualities.

JAMF 02-27-2011 12:05 AM

They weren't issued Mea Wests? And the sea temperature in the time period of BoB should be the warmer time, right? It's not the GIUK gap we'll be floating in.

Skoshi Tiger 02-27-2011 02:51 AM

Hopefully the prevailing winds will be blowing towards England!

Does anyone know if the crash rescue boats will be doing their job?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...eed_Launch.jpg

Cheers!

http://battleofbritain.devhub.com/bl...-pilot-rescue/

Hood 02-27-2011 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by philip.ed (Post 228829)
My post is raising a serious issue. I'm happy for the game to decide my fate (depending on where I am and what difficulty settings I have the game set to) but I can't see the reason for it to turn into a type of RPG

Serious issue but easy answer. Flight sims are RPGs by their nature - let's see what the developers have in store for us. I'd love there to be things that I can discover rather than being dissected on these forums.

philip.ed 02-27-2011 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by JAMF (Post 228870)
They weren't issued Mea Wests? And the sea temperature in the time period of BoB should be the warmer time, right? It's not the GIUK gap we'll be floating in.

No, they were issued mae-wests, but they weren't satisfactory for the purpose. They did the job of keeping one alfoat, but unfortunately they weren't suited to anything other than that. They had no dye-markers (until later) no torch, no provision for a mirror or anything like that. They even had no compartment for a mobile-phone. :-P

JAMF 02-27-2011 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by philip.ed (Post 228948)
No, they were issued mae-wests, but they weren't satisfactory for the purpose. They did the job of keeping one alfoat, but unfortunately they weren't suited to anything other than that. They had no dye-markers (until later) no torch, no provision for a mirror or anything like that. They even had no compartment for a mobile-phone. :-P

:-P

Anyone have the numbers of British aircraft/fighters that didn't make it to base and then these separated into numbers that landed in the field, made a parachute landing on land, belly-landed on the water and made a parachute landing on water?

Heliocon 02-27-2011 01:56 PM

WOP has this during simulator missions. When you die you jump int othe plane of a wingman/squadmember and fly them. They called it strategic or tactical respanw (something like that).

JAMF 02-27-2011 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rodolphe (Post 228903)
With a water temperature of 15.5 to 21°C, some individuals wearing a Personal Flotation Device, could suffer from hypothermia within 2 hrs. ;)

http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/Hypothermia.jpg

So in the summer and early autumn months of the battle, between 2 an 7 hours of consciousness and up to 40 hours of survival (60-70). In the Thames estuary and close to shore even longer. If the bay of Biscay were on the map, it would be in the upper zone of 70-80F.

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/4341/613289976147.gif

(Maximum sea temperature is reached in the last week of August)

Skoshi Tiger 02-27-2011 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JAMF (Post 228985)
In the Thames estuary and close to shore even longer.

Apparently you had a worse chance of survival in the Thames Estuary due to strong currents.

Cheers!

BadAim 02-27-2011 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JAMF (Post 228976)
:-P

Anyone have the numbers of British aircraft/fighters that didn't make it to base and then these separated into numbers that landed in the field, made a parachute landing on land, belly-landed on the water and made a parachute landing on water?

All joking aside, that would be some interesting information, I should think that there would be a somewhat higher chance for Germans trying to get home with damaged planes ending up "in the drink" than Brits, who even if the made interception over the channel would be quickly chasing their quarry back over land. Of course that's only a guess.


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