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WTE_Galway 07-09-2010 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by kjwright (Post 168952)
I will strive to be the best P-38 pilot the likes of which most new people have ever seen. The Fork Tail Devil will rain supreme! Hopefully my joystick still works Its one of the older Sidewinder Pro sticks so i feel confident. Is there anyone good at the p38 like really good?

There is actually a p38 thread running at the moment over at ubizoo:

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...6291076078/p/1

Though as usual over there the thread gets way off topic at times.

One thing to note about the p38 online, the twins are worth twice the points online for a kill so you will get a lot of attention from the blue side :D

AndyJWest 07-09-2010 03:23 AM

I've not been able to find any handling notes for the P-38, though you will do ok if you just keep the airspeed up in combat, and don't get suckered into a turning fight.

You might find the pilots' manual for the real thing of interest: download here - http://aafcollection.info/items/deta...1!title!up!100. Though the sim doesn't model everything, you'll maybe get a few clues about how to make the best of the P-38, and maybe appreciate it a bit more too.

Schallmoser 07-09-2010 07:47 AM

Hi kjwright,

You can take a look at this original training film for the P38.
Even if IL2 doesn't model everything as Andy said, it might familarize you with the plane.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq_2UmiCoJk

Hope this helps, and welcome to the IL2 world :cool:

cheers
Schallmoser

Erkki 07-09-2010 01:45 PM

Nice to see that some people have actually moved from BOP to Il-2, the movement has been, I think, mainly the opposite mostly!

The P-38 is a real killer in the pacific front, being faster than anything the Japs have, except Ki-84 and J2M, that are, in realistic scenarios, limited to Home island defense mostly.

P-38 is not so good against its Luftwaffe opponents, remember that every 109 WILL give you hard time in a dogfight, as do 190s. USAAF, having early on nothing better, just had to stick with the P-38, before P-51 and P-47s with multiple droptanks. Remember that you are faster or as fast as 109s, so you dont usually have to fight them if they cant dive to you. But remember that rocket and bomb racks slow you down...

If you can get a 190 slow down, you can fight and win one, however online the 190 pilots often tend to know their machine inside out, and might still come on top. Dont let them use their superior roll and kill you early.

And as with every aircraft, never be alone, work together, attack from advantage only and fear the death, and you shall become fearsome! ;)

Borsch 07-09-2010 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Erkki (Post 169082)
Nice to see that some people have actually moved from BOP to Il-2, the movement has been, I think, mainly the opposite mostly!

;)

In my experience, most people who flew IL2 and gave WoP (~BoP) a try for a few days, and then started to wait for WoP Dev's promises to come to life. They posted on WoP forums about its patches and what need to be done, but returned to fly to Il2 (I was one of them). Now, patches no longer appear, WoP forums have dried up, most people have forgotten about it and carry on with IL2/RoF.

IL2 is FAR more advanced in damage modeling when compared to WoP/BoP, almost each kill is different (or it feels like it anyway) - chunks of planes are blown off, wounded planes stream smokes from different areas, oil is leaking etc. Exact part that was shot at becomes engulfed in flames (fuel tanks, engines, ammo storages). Wounded planes behave and sound completely different and exactly in accordance to the damage sustained.

This makes IL2 air-combat much more alive than the generic mega-flameout of WOP/BOP.

IL2 sounds BLOW AWAY the pathetic electric shaver attempt of WOP/BOP.

Campaigns/missions/ online play - once again IL2 humiliates WOP/BOP.

IL2 FM is not better by the same margin, but still significantly better- planes shudder at high angles of attack, snap rolls and stalling behavior are more alive...

Graphics wise- IL2 is no BOP, but still is beautiful looking. Its water is nicer than BoP's...

IL2 rules and is one of the greatest sims/games ever!:) THE greatest as far as I am concerned (although far from perfect:)

http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/a...rsch1/p38m.jpg

http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/a...h1/20b226a.jpg

http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/a...howcenter3.jpg

http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/a...4924062010.jpg

http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/a...0090-23-47.jpg

Not my photos - S! to all of their makers!

BadAim 07-10-2010 02:24 AM

Here is a great resource for all armchair pilots, newb or otherwise; http://www.zenoswarbirdvideos.com/main.html While the site is a business and they charge for the disks, there is a bunch of free content (including the vid posted earlier). I've learned a lot from watching these vids and reading the pdf's from here. It's an amazing testament to the historical accuracy built into IL2, that studying the real techniques and tactics used with the real aircraft is usually the best way to learn how they work in the game (The simplifications and imperfections being a given)

kjwright 07-10-2010 04:16 AM

Wow some enthusiastic pilots. I like this alot. Ill proably wait alittle like a week or so then get the game.What other planes do you guys fly. Im sure there are Squadrons for the Luftwaffe, USSR, USAAF, Royal Airforce and what not. I just think the P-38 is a well rounded fighter over all

kjwright 07-10-2010 04:19 AM

Favorite planes. p38, p47, p51, HellCat, Hurricane, Tempest, Spitfire, Corsair, Fw190, BF109, Also big fan of p61 black widow and the A20/B25's set up for anti-shipping and ground attack

Borsch 07-10-2010 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by kjwright (Post 169185)
Favorite planes. p38, p47, p51, HellCat, Hurricane, Tempest, Spitfire, Corsair, Fw190, BF109, Also big fan of p61 black widow and the A20/B25's set up for anti-shipping and ground attack

All of them apart from p61 are present in IL2 and I love to fly them too:) P39 Airacobra, LA5fn, Il2, Zero, Me-262 Shwalbe, Yak9, I16, Bf110, Ju 87 are my other favs. But, the beauty of Il2 is that eventually people try out missions/campaigns for lesser known craft like Fokker XXI, Gladiator, Buffalo etc etc etc - they are all great fun in Il2! PLus, even the "big names" have lots of variants represented and look and feel different to each other - the number of planes is almost a distraction in IL2:)

KnightFandragon 07-10-2010 11:29 AM

The P38 is a fun fighter and is over all my favorite Fighter mainly for its looks. ive tried to fly it a few times to dogfight bots....I suck w/ that thing haha. Its a good Anti Bomber plane, but for me ground attack usually ends up in the only thing exploding on the ground is me =P


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