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Originally Posted by jkerr419 (Post 110888)

I'd have to disagree; I think there is a convergance zone. When i first started playing i couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. But i had made the mistake of taking the firing settings from a different game and using them with IL2. I was starting my firing runs at 1000 yds. At times I could watch my tracers go around the plane after crossing several 100 yards behind. A couple of days ago I told myself i won't fire at anything farther than 400 yards. Since then my kills have almost doubled. My rule now is if I think I'm too close....get closer. Seems to be really working for me...

If you don’t believe there is a convergence point, I’m sure you would change your mind if “J” ever rolls in on your six…I know…several of my severely torn up spitfires are now littering the beautiful “White Cliffs of Dover”… :)

There definately is a convergance zone, as well as bullet drop, just zoom in, fire off a burst, and watch your tracers slowly fall and cross each others paths. They dont cross paths untill quite a way out mind...

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Originally Posted by DoraNine (Post 110893)

I think some folks (not saying you guys) are thinking that convergence is a range where your rounds do the most damage. Sure -- I'd agree that a 20mm or 30mm round would do more damage the closer the target is due to velocity (if thats even a consideration in this game) -- but convergence is the point where all of your ordinance meets, and I haven't seen any of this in Arcade or Realistic modes. I may be wrong -- but it still makes for interesting conversation -- and the "video game crowd" may read this thread and learn something cool about aerial gunnery.

I'll admit -- I've only played Sim twice -- and got mauled by guys who I never even saw:-) So, you guys may be right about convergence being a part of that mode.

No Dora, we are thinking of the area around the convergence zone as doing more damage because all of your rounds are hitting where you are aiming. At any rate this debate is moot as Anton has already commented about there being a convergence zone. Of course I am only talking about sim.

Think about it, for your outboard guns, how would there not be, unless your bullets were magical? If the went straight and perpendicular to your wings, you would never hit anything.

BTW play more sim!:-)

There may be a convergence for the wing mounted guns, but this doesn't stop the bloody 30mm nose cannon on the 109g-6 from killing me from over 3000ft behind me??!!

The bullits must be rocket powered because they never seem to deviate as they should after energy is lost.

There is definitely convergence and bullet drop, even on arcade difficulty. Just fly absolutely level and fire while zooming and you'll see.

If the bullets themselves lose energy and get weaker by distance is a more interesting question imo. Sometimes I feel like I can't do any damage at all from 1000-1500 meters despite hitting my target. Of course this may simply be because only one or two bullets actually hit, but it would be cool with a definite answer to this. :D

TRC Thank you!!! Those were some good fights the last few nights.

And for the record I was going for convergance not effectiveness. While it would be nice to know their effective range... getting really close to my target before shooting has taken that part out of the equation.

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Originally Posted by jkerr419 (Post 111101)

TRC While it would be nice to know their effective range... getting really close to my target before shooting has taken that part out of the equation.

Yeah, I forget who said it, but I remember reading a top WW2 ace advising to get as close as you think you can get without crashing, then get even closer before you open fire.

That's my rule now.... If I think I'm too close I get closer! That little change in tactics has done wonders for my game. I went from 2 to 3 kills a game to 6+. Though you have to be careful as to avoid the falming wreck you jsut created.

My problem is actually getting behind the person to get the shot away in the first place.