Brand new stang pit will get some grime with mods soon i reckon. its the lack of character through heavy usage that makes it appear basic in comparison to those worn out superb cockpits of il2, some of the best graphics work ive seen tbh.

Ah warbirds.. I use to fly with the 900th! Good times!

Does seem to be a mixed bag for some.. Seems the folks that had problems before, such that they were very vocal, still have problems. Which leads me to belive it is something to do with their PC.. What with others seeing great improvements.

Really?

Well lets play detective for a moment.. As in a crime scene.. And ask yourself, what would be their motivation to spend time and money creating a scam? That is to say if they know it is not going to fix anything, what would they gain by providing a scam patch?

For me I see no up side in doing that, thus I don't see it as a scam as much as I see it for what it is

A beta patch

One that they themselves said has issues (disabled features) and are providing it for the sole purpose of getting feedback from the users (logs, dumpfiles). Now we can either be part of the solution here and provide our logs and dumpfiles or we can sit back and complain that this beta is not the final patch

SAVVY?

Which is true of all simmers! I always get a good laugh at those who are so upset that they say they are never going to buy anything made by 1C ever again.. Right! ;)

Well even with a few months under your belt your still 'new'! But I hear, ya, the yellow really takes some getting use to!

yes sir, same here, I have my DCS Mustang,, and she a real handful, a real beauty who is not another arcade sim... if you don't follow directions in the accurate modelling, you can't even take off or land.. or for that matter start it up.. it's pretty accurate...


and I too hope the next patch is just a patch, the 5 gb dance isn't fun...

This feels a whole lot better then CLOD both pre and post alpha/beta patch

Well as big EL said .. Easy to do when you only have one aircraft and it's on a map that has been around since dinosaurs walked the planet.

In short the DCS game engine has been around for a very Very VERY long time.. About as long as the orginal IL2 engine.. Thus they only have to focus on adding the plane..

Granted at the same time DCS has been strugling to combined all thier games into one for many years now.. And that day looks to be comming soon with the DCS World concept.. So there is that effort too.. But the point being DCS is simply adding to and tweaking a very old game engine.. Where as 1C is dealing with a totally new engine, graphics, dm, fm, etc

I'm pretty sure the DCS game engine was totally revamped during the development of the A-10C.

The landscape certainly does look dated compared to either CloD or RoF, but the engine itself isn't as old as some are saying.

They have a new landscape engine called EDGE in the works. The first map using it will be Nevada.

removed coz its far to off topic.

anyway new Ed engine looks like an excellent update last i seen of it..feel like ive been waiting for the nevada scenery forever though. im at a loss though for the links at ed, anyone remind me where they are? (the new engine)

I'm impressed with it...this FM is not an old one. In many ways, it's the most advanced one I've ever encountered. I'll write more when my gf isn't waiting on me at the dinner table.

Note that I haven't flow CLOD in about a year, but will tomorrow.

us that fly it know that, but it isn't worth banging the heads of those that think they know more..

IMHO