Official Fulqrum Publishing forum - Friday Update, April 13, 2012

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Originally Posted by jamesdietz (Post 408636)

Beta-beta-Mo-beta-Banana-mana Bo-beta...YES!

:grin::grin::grin:

Thanks for an amazing update and for working late :grin:

Happy Easter !

Lou

Great news, so now fighting a 109 will actually be impossible. are the 109's still unbelievably resistant to UK bullets?

This to me is actually bad news. At least with slightly enflated air speeds we stood a small chance of beating the LW aircraft. Now we are all taking a 60 mph hit. Awesome.

Bad! Naughty csThor! Fancy having a favourite side in a war simulator! Next time I suggest you play it safe and support the Swiss..... means you don't get to play but you can sit back and watch and keep all the cash. :D

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Originally Posted by BlackSix (Post 408445)

We're very glad to announce that the beta patch is largely done. It's going into wide internal testing today, which will last through the weekend and probably a couple of days more. After we make sure nothing is amiss, we'll make the beta patch available to everyone

That is great news! Thanks for the update BS!

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Originally Posted by Hooves (Post 408693)

Great news, so now fighting a 109 will actually be impossible. are the 109's still unbelievably resistant to UK bullets?
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Unbelievably resistant to UK bullets? Tell that to the ever increasing collection of dead 109s at the bottom of the channel. :D You just have to learn how to fly and fight better. :p

Trust me....I am the worst 109 pilot in the world and I can assure you, these wonderful planes are quite easy to destroy with me in the cockpit..... I sometimes don't even need "Tommy" on my tail! :D

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Originally Posted by king1hw (Post 408682)

......some endless whining......

Could you please wait for the patch and whine after you actually tried it please?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Mpa5mUYVWB...chill_pill.jpg

May have to take more than one tho. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by von Brühl (Post 408597)

You'd have to get into serious graphs to prove it either way, but I think its as it should be, at higher speeds, you need exponentially more HP to accelerate against the drag. You can see it easily in cars, 50% more HP doesn't translate into a 50% increase in top speed.

This is the source site:
http://www.enginehistory.org/German/daimler-benz.shtml
I will check the original manuals, but i don't open any FM ticket, i wait the patch (The 2% rate seems low anyway (2%? Who would call it WEP? :grin:), but would you like something more serious technical "analysis" - from the devs - because of this.)

I'm quite pleased with the news on the whole, but I just want to point something out that was disappointing to read.

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Unfortunately some deeply-set limitations in the engine code do not allow us to minimize the margin of error at altitudes about 7 km (21,000 ft) where most aircraft begin to perform worse than their real-life counterparts. Fixing this requires more extensive code rework and will therefore only appear with the upcoming sequel.

Not long ago I posted that we could expect 1c not to fix things until after the sequel was out. Looks like I was at least partially correct.

I took a lot of abuse and ridicule from the moderators here and was given some ridiculous number of infraction points because I was "spreading deliberate falsehoods".

Feels good to be right in the face of jerks being wrong.

Good news .... Hopefully next Friday we can enjoy this new beta patch.

Regarding the changes in FM unfortunately British aircraft were well below the German aircraft and we all know that. I think the really interesting the FM are very close to reality, even if it affects the competitiveness ingame ... After the CLOD is not a simulator?

The Way is to raise the head and died heroically when flying alone because BF x 109 Spit, 1x1 Messechimits wins in all aspects, largely in the case of the beginning of the war.

I felt sad because I will die more die already ... hahahahaha

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Originally Posted by csThor (Post 408648)

You make the mistake of equating raw aircraft performance with the historical results their missions produced. Performance is just a part of a long and convoluted equation that - in the end - brought the results we know as history today. A lot of it simply has to do with the way both sides used their available forces ...

To expect that a computer game can depict history 1:1 is ludicruous. For starters no sane player would adhere to historical tactics or orders if they ran contrary to his common sense. Or would you, as a german fighter pilot, not tell Hermann Meier to go kriff himself and not do close escort? ;)

The problem online play suffers is that everyone IS using tactics that support their aircraft and in that sense the aircraft with the performance edge is the one that regularly comes out on top :/

It makes it very tough to be a Red pilot in CloD. Hindsight for the blue side eliminates their one real disadvantage: the poor command directives

We'll have to see for ourselves what the patch does. But I suspect Recoil is right. It's going to end up being all IIas and the odd sado-masochistic Hurricane pilot :P Hardly a 'historical simulator'.

If the game crashes get sorted out, maybe team tactics will help offset all of the aircraft performance issues and we'll see more even fights between larger wings of aircraft.

Edit to add that I think that, even though a lot of online players want to play this battle, the battle of britain, online play is going to switch to the new game's plane set (battle of moscow) based on the aircraft performance differences and the above tactical/historical disparities.

RAF/Red pilots who fly CloD, at least THIS pilot, want to play and get a sense of participating in the greatest air battle of history in which the underdog RAF managed to hold off and achieve victory against the supposedly unstoppable German military machine. CloD certainly gives us the underdog feeling, but the victory bit is lacking a little.

I guess our 'victory' will be a lot like the real one. Pilots will just move on to the Russian front (BoM).